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Re: Superman Returns Sequel is a GO!
Originally Posted by Shannon Nutt
(Post 10273087)
Forget the fact that Fillian is almost 40...the big "issue" is that he's Canadian. Wouldn't hiring a non-American to play Superman almost be akin to hiring an American to play, say, James Bond?
Originally Posted by Patman
(Post 10273109)
Superman's a Kryptonian, it's not like they are casting Captain America...
ahem... truth, justice and the AMERICAN way. Not that it matters after the last film since they threw that out the window, presumably with the good script. |
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Fillion as anything related to superman = a movie i will never see and will pray the ultimate failure of. Talk about the worst casting idea ever.
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Just say no to Faillion. :)
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Re: Superman Returns Sequel is a GO!
Originally Posted by Michael Corvin
(Post 10273562)
ahem... truth, justice and all that stuff.
Superman is a very American character, but he was not born in the USA. As long as the accent's convincing he could be played by a Russian. I'd rather a great performance from a foreigner than a perfunctory one from an American. |
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Exactly. Superman is an imigrant. The only time he was ever actually an American was during the Byrne era of the character (where he was born in Kansas rather than Krypton).
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Umm guys....Superman is not an alien. He was born in Smallville.
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Huh? He lands in Smallville from Krypton, his home planet. Am I missing something?
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Re: Superman Returns Sequel is a GO!
Originally Posted by Suprmallet
(Post 10273765)
Huh? He lands in Smallville from Krypton, his home planet. Am I missing something?
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Re: Superman Returns Sequel is a GO!
Originally Posted by RocShemp
(Post 10273770)
During the John Byrne era of the character, Kal-El was never born on Krypton. Instead, Jor-El transfered the gestating fetus in Lara-El's womb into a "birthing matrix" (it's an artificial womb) and attatched it to a rocket and sent it to Earth. The fetus developed into a baby along the way and when the rocket crashed in Smallville, Kal-El was literally born on American soil and thus an American.
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Re: Superman Returns Sequel is a GO!
Originally Posted by Hokeyboy
(Post 10273837)
Already retconned out of existence. So it was only canon for like 15 years out of the character's 72 year existence.
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Re: Superman Returns Sequel is a GO!
Originally Posted by Hokeyboy
(Post 10273837)
Already retconned out of existence. So it was only canon for like 15 years out of the character's 72 year existence.
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Re: Superman Returns Sequel is a GO!
Originally Posted by RocShemp
(Post 10273770)
During the John Byrne era of the character, Kal-El was never born on Krypton. Instead, Jor-El transfered the gestating fetus in Lara-El's womb into a "birthing matrix" (it's an artificial womb) and attatched it to a rocket and sent it to Earth. The fetus developed into a baby along the way and when the rocket crashed in Smallville, Kal-El was literally born on American soil and thus an American.
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^that sounds dumb but whatever they're retconning, it can only be better than the Returns turd.
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I don't think it's dumb, just not particularly cinematic. Would you rather see Jor-el injecting a metal egg with a test tube, or laying a chosen newborn in an astro-crib? It's the Moses story.
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Re: Superman Returns Sequel is a GO!
Originally Posted by Suprmallet
(Post 10274496)
Well that's one of the dumbest things I've ever heard.
Not kidding about the above, btw. ANyhoo, you may as well get used to it as that's Nolan's chosen inspiration for the new Superman movie. I'm sure in no time it'll be deemed genious because it gets the coveted Nolan Seal of Approval. :p
Originally Posted by DonnachaOne
(Post 10274581)
I don't think it's dumb, just not particularly cinematic. Would you rather see Jor-el injecting a metal egg with a test tube, or laying a chosen newborn in an astro-crib? It's the Moses story.
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But Nolan has not specifically said he's doing the Byrne Superman. Just because you're inspired by something doesn't mean your copying plot specifics; more often than not, you're going after a specific tone.
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Re: Superman Returns Sequel is a GO!
Originally Posted by Hokeyboy
(Post 10274650)
But Nolan has not specifically said he's doing the Byrne Superman. Just because you're inspired by something doesn't mean your copying plot specifics; more often than not, you're going after a specific tone.
Of greater concern to me is what the whole "twist on the legend" will be. I doubt we'll get another Super Son but I fear getting something equally groan-inducing. |
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What makes Superman interesting to me -- and what makes him (and most of DC's characters) different from Marvel heroes -- is that he's a legend. Like King Arthur, Zorro, Robin Hood, Moses, Nipsy Russell, etc. He can be analyzed, updated, approached, deconstructed, reconstructed, and refracted a zillion different ways. Marvel characters are human and contemporary. I could see a Superman movie taking place in, say, 17th Century France or Tsarist Russia. I can't see that with Spider-Man or Wolverine. Doesn't make any characters better or worse, just different.
If I were in charge of the property, I'd turn it into a Silver Age, Kennedy-era period piece: Cold War, Camelot, Space Race, wacky super-science, clean lines, Curt Swan, groin, 54-40 or fight |
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Originally Posted by Hokeyboy
(Post 10274701)
What makes Superman interesting to me -- and what makes him (and most of DC's characters) different from Marvel heroes -- is that he's a legend. Like King Arthur, Zorro, Robin Hood, Moses, Nipsy Russell, etc. He can be analyzed, updated, approached, deconstructed, reconstructed, and refracted a zillion different ways. Marvel characters are human and contemporary. I could see a Superman movie taking place in, say, 17th Century France or Tsarist Russia. I can't see that with Spider-Man or Wolverine. Doesn't make any characters better or worse, just different.
If I were in charge of the property, I'd turn it into a Silver Age, Kennedy-era period piece: Cold War, Camelot, Space Race, wacky super-science, clean lines, Curt Swan, groin, 54-40 or fight I'm not one of Whedon's loyalists. I only love one of his properties (Firefly/Serenity) and either like (Dollhouse and Angel) or hate (Buffy The Vampire Slayer and Dr. Horrible's Sing-Along Blog) the rest. However, I think he was on exactly the right track with Wonder Woman. it was a shame that the folk at Warner Bros. didn't agree. :( |
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This video is almost perfect until the craptacular final gag.
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Re: Superman Returns Sequel is a GO!
Originally Posted by Artman
(Post 10273348)
Allright so he's taller than I thought at 6' 4", but you don't just add 20 lbs of muscle in a matter of months, it takes yrs.
I think you need to Google Christian Bale and The Machinist. Here's the entry from Wikipedia: Still fresh off The Machinist, it became necessary for Bale to bulk up to match Batman's muscular physique. He was given a deadline of six months to do this. Bale recalled it as far from a simple accomplishment: “...when it actually came to building muscle, I was useless. I couldn’t do one push up the first day. All of the muscles were gone, so I had a real tough time rebuilding all of that.”[28] With the help of a personal trainer, Bale succeeded in meeting the deadline, gaining a total of 100 lb (45 kg) in six months. He went from about 130 lbs to 230 lbs.[35] He then discovered that he had actually gained more weight than the director desired, and dropped his weight to 190 lbs by the time filming began. http://www.dietsinreview.com/diet_co...istianbale.jpg |
Re: Superman Returns Sequel is a GO!
So that's why Lois can never figure it out!
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Originally Posted by JTH182
(Post 10275086)
That's a joke right?
I think you need to Google Christian Bale and The Machinist. Here's the entry from Wikipedia: Still fresh off The Machinist, it became necessary for Bale to bulk up to match Batman's muscular physique. He was given a deadline of six months to do this. Bale recalled it as far from a simple accomplishment: “...when it actually came to building muscle, I was useless. I couldn’t do one push up the first day. All of the muscles were gone, so I had a real tough time rebuilding all of that.”[28] With the help of a personal trainer, Bale succeeded in meeting the deadline, gaining a total of 100 lb (45 kg) in six months. He went from about 130 lbs to 230 lbs.[35] He then discovered that he had actually gained more weight than the director desired, and dropped his weight to 190 lbs by the time filming began. http://www.dietsinreview.com/diet_co...istianbale.jpg |
Re: Superman Returns Sequel is a GO!
Originally Posted by RocShemp
(Post 10275096)
You do realize Bale almost killed himself for pulling such a crazy stunt, right? I'm not knocking the results but it was not a smart thing to do in such a brief period of time. It's the most impressive act of stupidity ever.
No, I get it, but the poster I quoted said it takes YEARS to gain 20 lbs. Obviously gaining 20 lbs in a matter of months is child's play for Hollywood actors and is done all the time. Bale was just an extreme example (and another superhero example at that). |
Re: Superman Returns Sequel is a GO!
Originally Posted by JTH182
(Post 10275113)
No, I get it, but the poster I quoted said it takes YEARS to gain 20 lbs. Obviously gaining 20 lbs in a matter of months is child's play for Hollywood actors and is done all the time. Bale was just an extreme example (and another superhero example at that).
That reminds me of back when Russell Crowe was considered to do the role. He said he'd gladly do it if he was allowed two years to do nothing but work out so that he could be the biggest cinematic Superman anyone had ever seen. I would have loved to see that. But I guess we technically did see just that a few years later: http://www.collorastudios.com/projec...tpics/wf15.jpg http://www.collorastudios.com/projec...tpics/wf06.jpg |
Re: Superman Returns Sequel is a GO!
Originally Posted by JTH182
(Post 10275113)
No, I get it, but the poster I quoted said it takes YEARS to gain 20 lbs. Obviously gaining 20 lbs in a matter of months is child's play for Hollywood actors and is done all the time. Bale was just an extreme example (and another superhero example at that).
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