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Old 11-01-06 | 09:07 AM
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I generally agree, but not with the "action-comedy" part. We all remember how well Superman III turned out, right? There's a proper balance for the Superman character ... I think both Donner and Timm found it, and hope Singer finds it for movie #2.
We won't have to worry about Richard Pryor anymore.

The problem (well, one of them) with Superman III is that the comedy elements were totally unrelated to the Superman elements. The Lana/Clark/Smallville stuff is actually not that bad, but my god, when Pryor tries his Patton imitation...my jaw just drops in amazement that anyone thought this was a good idea. There's plenty of real humor to be mined from the Superman mythos without having to resort to the comic flavor of the moment.

(I can see it now: Brandon Routh and Borat in Superman Returns 2: Make Benefit of Kryptonian Underwear Man.)

I hope they improve the sequel, but Singer really wrote them into the corner by bringing the kid into it. If they kill him off, there's goes any chance of an enjoyable picture. If he sticks around, they have to deal with the kid growing up. No, he must be retconned out of existence, and I don't care if Superman has to plant the "kiss of forgetfullness" onto everyone in the movie's universe to do it.

What I'd like to see in the next movie: Superman helps a blind girl get her sight back, and then flies her around the world, to be reunited with her parents at the end. There won't be a dry eye in the house.
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Old 11-01-06 | 09:10 AM
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I would love to see Rachel McAdams as Lois, but I'm not sure she would jump into that role, especially for a sequel. She is/was the "IT" girl but it doesn't appear she's in a big hurry to make more movies right now.

I didn't like the kid either. It would be nice if they could throw in the "he's staying with my grandparents" routine, but it won't happen.
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Old 11-01-06 | 10:50 AM
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If I remember correctly, the Death of Superman comic was a huge success, so I would imagine that DC comics would want to somehow incorporate that story into a movie. I envision Superman Returns 2 could use Brainiac as the main villian, but leave some time at the end of the film to basically introduce the Doomsday character which would mean that SR 3 would be the Death of Superman movie. However, if WB and DC comics want to do another trilogy of sorts for Superman Returns, then I would love to see Doomsday in #2 and follow the comic book, have it darker and similar to Empire Strikes Back in style. Then SR 3 could be the combination of the 4 Superman like characters (Man of Steel, Man of Tomorrow, etc.) and then the "re-birth" of Superman.

Only problem is that some of the reactions in the comic won't work in the movies because of the previous storylines from Superman 1 & 2 with regards to Jonathon Kent.
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Jonathon Kent has a heart attack after finding out Superman is dead.
. The other thing that might not work is SuperGirl and the Justice League because neither have been introduced in any of the Superman movies.
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Old 11-01-06 | 03:12 PM
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What are the chances Singer's reading any of this ... ?
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Old 11-01-06 | 03:30 PM
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The lack of action wasn't necessarily the problem with the movie. Comparitively speaking, Superman I has less action than Superman II but it's still great. My biggest problem with it was the lack of fun. This was the gloomiest Superman I've ever seen.
Exactly. Drama and emotion are elements which are sorely needed in most comic book films, but SUPERMAN RETURNS seemed to wallow in it at times.

But I'm glad they're making another flick. Routh and Singer are too good not to get another shot.
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Old 11-01-06 | 03:31 PM
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The other thing that might not work is SuperGirl and the Justice League because neither have been introduced in any of the Superman movies.
Well, we have at least one (godawful) version of Supergirl from 1984...
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Old 11-01-06 | 06:58 PM
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Old 11-10-06 | 12:53 PM
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Wanted to pass this along, I am glad to hear they are asking Singer to do X-men 4, I just hope he finds the time to do it.

http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/ar...948627351.html

Sequel to 'Superman Returns' due in 2009

By Michael Tsai
Advertiser Staff Writer

The sequel to "Superman Returns," which grossed nearly $200 million in the U.S. this year, will likely hit theaters in 2009, University of Hawai'i Academy for Creative Media director Chris Lee confirmed today.
Lee, who will return as executive producer of the film, hosted "Superman Returns" director Bryan Singer and producer Jon Peters at a wide-ranging discussion with ACM students today at UH.

Singer and Peters are in Honolulu this week to celebrate Lee's birthday, and to begin planning the next Superman film, which will likely begin production mid- to late next year in a location yet to be determined. "Superman Returns" was shot in Sydney, Australia, with four ACM students serving as interns.

Singer acknowledged that he has also been approached to direct the next "X-Men" movie — he directed the first two well-received films before turning over the reigns for the third installment to Brett Ratner — but said he wouldn't have time to take on another large-scale project before the next Superman gets underway. He is interested, however, in seeing the script for the "X-Men" spinoff "Wolverine."

While Lee said that planning for the next Superman film is just getting underway, he did say that he would once again look at using Hawai'i-based businesses for some of the post-production.
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Old 11-10-06 | 04:35 PM
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Maybe this movie could have the kid away in boarding school. Lois and Cyclops seem like the kind of parents who would send the kid away with their wealth. Instead of having to deal with him directly, we could hear Lois speak of an incident at the school of the kid "allegedly" moving a teacher's car from one end of the lot to the other and Clark could respond with: "But he's not old enough to drive, right?" while feigning ignorance. That would be it. No more.
I think they should have a bald guy be the villain in the sequel. Another Singer Alum. Patrick Stewart as Brainiac!
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Old 11-10-06 | 07:08 PM
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Rumour has it the sequel will be tentatively called "The Man Of Steel"
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Old 11-10-06 | 07:21 PM
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Awesome! I can't wait to fall asleep half way through this movie!
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Old 11-10-06 | 07:55 PM
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Awesome! I can't wait to fall asleep half way through this movie!
Why would you visit a thread or pay for a movie that you are crapping on without any basis? Good work.

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Old 11-10-06 | 08:01 PM
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Why would you visit a thread or pay for a movie that you are crapping on without any basis? Good work.

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Relax. I have a basis for my opinion...namely Superman Returns.
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Old 11-10-06 | 08:12 PM
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That's interesting about X-Men 4 and Wolverine. I would have thought that Fox would be bitter enough not to even think about Singer's involvement in the franchise.
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Old 11-10-06 | 09:55 PM
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Superman: Adventures in Babysitting...



anyways, i hope the kid dies and superman dies too in the cliffhanger...
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Old 11-11-06 | 05:44 PM
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I say they get Miller and Gough to write it. That or Steve DeKnight. They write a lot of the good scripts for Smallville.
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Old 11-12-06 | 12:02 AM
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Routh was good.
I thought he was frickin' terrible. But then I've always thought that. He made a decent looking Clark, but an awful Superman. It's also obvious to me they tried to cover for his acting by allowing him to do nothing but stand around and brood, and speak a very few simplistic lines.

No, I'm not going to say who I preferred. But Routh is passable if they can add much more fun and excitement to the film.

By the way, dark sci-fi sounds wrong. Superman is not Batman. He is not a dark character at all. Returns was already way too dark as it was. Making another dark film doesn't make sense to me.
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Spacey set for 'Superman' sequel
Actor to play Major Banks in Moran's 'Telstar'
By ANNE THOMPSON

Kevin Spacey will return as Lex Luthor in "Superman: Man of Steel" and appear in "Telstar," Nick Moran's film version of Moran and James Hicks' 2005 darkly comic West End play about flamboyant '60s record mogul Joe Meek.

"Superman" director Bryan Singer met with Spacey in New York while the latter was appearing on Broadway in Eugene O'Neill's recently wrapped "Moon for the Misbegotten." Singer was about to pitch his "Man of Steel" sequel to Warner Bros.; "Superman Returns" scripter Michael Dougherty is now writing the screenplay.

After Singer completes "Valkyrie" and "The Mayor of Castro Street," he plans to start production on "Man of Steel" next year for a 2009 release.

Spacey hopes to shoot his Luthor role in a six-week block, as he did on "Superman Returns," after he completes his run in David Mamet's "Speed the Plow" in April.

This week, Spacey joined the cast of "Telstar," which started filming Monday in London. Meek is the gay, tone deaf songwriter-producer who produced hits including "Have I the Right," "Just Like Eddie," "Johnny, Remember Me" and the instrumental "Telstar." Con O'Neill reprises his stage role as Meek; Spacey plays his financier, Major Banks.

"It's exciting to be part of my first British ensemble film," Spacey said.

Spacey, who has eight years remaining on his 10-year contract as artistic director of London's Old Vic Theater, corrected recent Internet stories announcing his retirement from film acting in favor of the stage.

"My priorities have changed," he admitted on the phone from London. "Theater is the No. 1 thing in my life. But I love movies and will continue to make movies when I can."

In a June interview with "London Tonight" on Brit net ITV1, about a deal with Sam Mendes for the Bridge Project between the Old Vic and the Brooklyn Academy of Music, the Times of London quoted Spacey as saying, "I don't care about my personal acting career any more. I'm done with it."

On Tuesday, Spacey told Daily Variety, "In no way did I use the word retirement. Someone else pulled that out of thin air. It's false, there's not a lick of truth to it."

Spacey has two films in the can: David Dobkin's comedy "Fred Claus," which Warner Bros. will open Nov. 9, and Robert Luketic's "21," in which he plays an MIT professor who teaches his students to count cards. Latter is set for a March release by Columbia Pictures.

Spacey has also recorded two songs for a tribute CD to Dean Martin, "Forever Cool," which EMI will release on Aug. 14.
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Great news! I loved Spacys portrayal of Luthor.
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Old 07-11-07 | 09:15 AM
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I agree on all three points. Especially killing the kid.

It's good to see they at least acknowledged there was no action and fun in the first one, and are going to try to improve in that area.
I noted this as well after rewatching this in HiDef - can't say I wasn't impressed as I was the first time seeing the movie...

anyone want a HD-DVD copy of the film (for trade).

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Spacey set for 'Superman' sequel
Actor to play Major Banks in Moran's 'Telstar'
By ANNE THOMPSON

Kevin Spacey will return as Lex Luthor in "Superman: Man of Steel" and appear in "Telstar," Nick Moran's film version of Moran and James Hicks' 2005 darkly comic West End play about flamboyant '60s record mogul Joe Meek.

"Superman" director Bryan Singer met with Spacey in New York while the latter was appearing on Broadway in Eugene O'Neill's recently wrapped "Moon for the Misbegotten." Singer was about to pitch his "Man of Steel" sequel to Warner Bros.; "Superman Returns" scripter Michael Dougherty is now writing the screenplay.

After Singer completes "Valkyrie" and "The Mayor of Castro Street," he plans to start production on "Man of Steel" next year for a 2009 release.

Spacey hopes to shoot his Luthor role in a six-week block, as he did on "Superman Returns," after he completes his run in David Mamet's "Speed the Plow" in April.

This week, Spacey joined the cast of "Telstar," which started filming Monday in London. Meek is the gay, tone deaf songwriter-producer who produced hits including "Have I the Right," "Just Like Eddie," "Johnny, Remember Me" and the instrumental "Telstar." Con O'Neill reprises his stage role as Meek; Spacey plays his financier, Major Banks.

"It's exciting to be part of my first British ensemble film," Spacey said.

Spacey, who has eight years remaining on his 10-year contract as artistic director of London's Old Vic Theater, corrected recent Internet stories announcing his retirement from film acting in favor of the stage.

"My priorities have changed," he admitted on the phone from London. "Theater is the No. 1 thing in my life. But I love movies and will continue to make movies when I can."

In a June interview with "London Tonight" on Brit net ITV1, about a deal with Sam Mendes for the Bridge Project between the Old Vic and the Brooklyn Academy of Music, the Times of London quoted Spacey as saying, "I don't care about my personal acting career any more. I'm done with it."

On Tuesday, Spacey told Daily Variety, "In no way did I use the word retirement. Someone else pulled that out of thin air. It's false, there's not a lick of truth to it."

Spacey has two films in the can: David Dobkin's comedy "Fred Claus," which Warner Bros. will open Nov. 9, and Robert Luketic's "21," in which he plays an MIT professor who teaches his students to count cards. Latter is set for a March release by Columbia Pictures.

Spacey has also recorded two songs for a tribute CD to Dean Martin, "Forever Cool," which EMI will release on Aug. 14.
oh lordy... come on Spacey, come out of that closet ....

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Old 07-11-07 | 09:16 AM
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Great news! I loved Spacys portrayal of Luthor.
So did I...but after having every movie feature Lex Luthor with the exception of Part III, can we get a new nemesis?

Hopefully it's just a small part with a new villain handling the majority of the movie.
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Old 07-11-07 | 09:19 AM
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I think they'll offer up another villain. Braniac perhaps?
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Old 07-11-07 | 09:19 AM
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So did I...but after having every movie feature Lex Luthor with the exception of Part III, can we get a new nemesis?

Hopefully it's just a small part with a new villain handling the majority of the movie.
Not entirely fair. I think it's much more effective for Luthor to learn and take care of things behind the scenes if you will. It makes him much more evil and shows his true intillect. I feel TAS did this the best.
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Old 07-11-07 | 10:34 AM
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I think they'll offer up another villain. Braniac perhaps?
Nah, I think Singer's gonna do something a little more fresh and original. Like have Luthor partner with 3 Kryptonian outlaws who've come to Planet Houston to rule.
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Old 07-11-07 | 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by brianluvdvd
So did I...but after having every movie feature Lex Luthor with the exception of Part III, can we get a new nemesis?

Hopefully it's just a small part with a new villain handling the majority of the movie.
I really hope so too. Luthor again
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