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#251
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Originally Posted by Draven
Goddammit - I was going to us part of my free day today to check this out, since the trailers have continued to make it look awesome.
I cannot believe they fucked it up again.
I cannot believe they fucked it up again.
my feelings exactly. I guess ill go see Juno or something else instead and get my fix of action with resident evil 3 at the dollar theater.
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Thank Christ I decided to go with my gut and ignore the majority of negative reviews about this film.
First I have to say, What the Fuck were people expecting....a James Cameron/Ridley Scott masterpiece?
My hopes of ever seeing a decent Alien flick ended long ago with Alien 3 and 4...nuff said.
First I have to say, What the Fuck were people expecting....a James Cameron/Ridley Scott masterpiece?

My hopes of ever seeing a decent Alien flick ended long ago with Alien 3 and 4...nuff said.

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Originally Posted by candyrocket786
Thank Christ I decided to go with my gut and ignore the majority of negative reviews about this film.
First I have to say, What the Fuck were people expecting....a James Cameron/Ridley Scott masterpiece?
My hopes of ever seeing a decent Alien flick ended long ago with Alien 3 and 4...nuff said.
First I have to say, What the Fuck were people expecting....a James Cameron/Ridley Scott masterpiece?

My hopes of ever seeing a decent Alien flick ended long ago with Alien 3 and 4...nuff said.

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This film was nowhere near perfect but once one gets over some of that it was a fun ride.
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#256
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Well ComingSoon.net posted these movie predictions for the days of Dec 28-30
Too bad it got beat out by a bunch of stupid chipmunks *sigh*
OT but RottenTomatoes 35% rating of the (possibly still) #1 movie: National Treasure 2 continues to make me laugh. Guess some people don't always go by what others are saying (which is a good thing, make your own opinions dammit!!!)
This Week's Predictions -
1. National Treasure: Book of Secrets (Disney) - $40.5 million - 11%
2. I Am Legend (Warner Bros.) - $28.0 million - 18%
3. Alvin and the Chipmunks (Fox) - $24.6 million - 16%
4. Aliens vs. Predator - Requiem (Fox) - $17.8 million N/A
5. The Water Horse (Sony) - $10.8 million N/A
6. Charlie Wilson’s War (Universal) - $10.6 million +10%
7. Sweeney Todd (DreamWorks) - $7.8 million - 17%
8. The Great Debaters (The Weinstein Co.) $7.6 million N/A
9. P.S. I Love You (Warner Bros.) - $7.5 million +15%
10. Juno (Fox Searchlight) - $5.4 million +59%
1. National Treasure: Book of Secrets (Disney) - $40.5 million - 11%
2. I Am Legend (Warner Bros.) - $28.0 million - 18%
3. Alvin and the Chipmunks (Fox) - $24.6 million - 16%
4. Aliens vs. Predator - Requiem (Fox) - $17.8 million N/A
5. The Water Horse (Sony) - $10.8 million N/A
6. Charlie Wilson’s War (Universal) - $10.6 million +10%
7. Sweeney Todd (DreamWorks) - $7.8 million - 17%
8. The Great Debaters (The Weinstein Co.) $7.6 million N/A
9. P.S. I Love You (Warner Bros.) - $7.5 million +15%
10. Juno (Fox Searchlight) - $5.4 million +59%
OT but RottenTomatoes 35% rating of the (possibly still) #1 movie: National Treasure 2 continues to make me laugh. Guess some people don't always go by what others are saying (which is a good thing, make your own opinions dammit!!!)
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#257
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Originally Posted by Lt Ripley
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Originally Posted by Lt Ripley
I am at a loss for words.
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I can see the issue. The Alien life cycle, which was pretty well established in the first two films, was severely messed with in Resurrection, AvP, and Requiem. It's obnoxious that they can't just leave well enough alone. There's an elegance to the Alien that these films have lost.
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The Alien lifecycle was followed in Alien 3 too for the most part...Alien Resurrection it somewhat followed it, there was just so many time jumps in hte movie.. the cycle still held. (except for the idiotic Newborn stuff, which I think is the root of all these neato combinations we are seeing now - the Newborn sucked when it came out and these hybrids still suck)
The last 2 movies are just plain garbage. The great thing about the cycle is that it gives time to build the suspense, character development with the humans - these new movies don't care to build any character development.
I'm tired of people claiming "its a new form of the Alien" - it can do what it wants!!!! No, it can't. You might as not use the "Alien" from Aliens if you are going to pull these type of rewriting their established lifecycles..its dumb. If its ability to sprout little buggers outside its mouth comes from its Predator parent, well that was never shown in any of the Predator movies either, so I don't know how it could pick that up from its Predator "parent"
Now Aliens did change Alien a bit, but it did not overwrite anything seen in the movie. In fact it played it pretty well within the rules established by Alien..not like Avp or aVPR, which had aliens being born in minutes..its just dumb.
The last 2 movies are just plain garbage. The great thing about the cycle is that it gives time to build the suspense, character development with the humans - these new movies don't care to build any character development.
I'm tired of people claiming "its a new form of the Alien" - it can do what it wants!!!! No, it can't. You might as not use the "Alien" from Aliens if you are going to pull these type of rewriting their established lifecycles..its dumb. If its ability to sprout little buggers outside its mouth comes from its Predator parent, well that was never shown in any of the Predator movies either, so I don't know how it could pick that up from its Predator "parent"
Now Aliens did change Alien a bit, but it did not overwrite anything seen in the movie. In fact it played it pretty well within the rules established by Alien..not like Avp or aVPR, which had aliens being born in minutes..its just dumb.
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Originally Posted by candyrocket786
First I have to say, What the Fuck were people expecting....a James Cameron/Ridley Scott masterpiece?

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In terms of box office, AvPR like its idiotic brother AvP makes all its money in the first two days of release after that - see ya later.
I'm sorry to see the franchises be killed off by this stuff. I guess we will have to wait 10 years or so for a decent reimanging of either one of these franchises......
Of course, the obvious choice for a decent Alien movie is the Derelict ship prequel...but guess that will never come to be either....I guess movies have to have humans of some sort in them.even though by all accounts the human characters in AvP and AvPR were just idiotiic (I haven't seen AvPr - but I can only imagine)
I'm sorry to see the franchises be killed off by this stuff. I guess we will have to wait 10 years or so for a decent reimanging of either one of these franchises......
Of course, the obvious choice for a decent Alien movie is the Derelict ship prequel...but guess that will never come to be either....I guess movies have to have humans of some sort in them.even though by all accounts the human characters in AvP and AvPR were just idiotiic (I haven't seen AvPr - but I can only imagine)
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#263
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Originally Posted by vhgong
Maybe your theater use a remote and turn up its brightness, but i though it was so dark and tight in its action scenes.
Can't comment beyond that, since I have no plans to see the movie. What's that line Bill Clinton used to say? "Fool me once, shame on you...fool me twice, shame on ME."
I won't be seeing another ALIEN or PREDATOR movie until a REAL director is attached to one.
#264
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Originally Posted by Shannon Nutt
I won't be seeing another ALIEN or PREDATOR movie until a REAL director is attached to one.
#265
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Originally Posted by DRG
Unfortunately I think the franchise has been devalued to the point I can't imagine a decent director would attach themselves to an AvP movie.
Exactly.
#266
Originally Posted by candyrocket786
Thank Christ I decided to go with my gut and ignore the majority of negative reviews about this film.
First I have to say, What the Fuck were people expecting....a James Cameron/Ridley Scott masterpiece?
My hopes of ever seeing a decent Alien flick ended long ago with Alien 3 and 4...nuff said.
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Didnt read any reviews. Saw it on xmas day. I liked it. Sure its not great but its a good waste of time watching people and aliens get slaughted by a predator. I will buy it just like the first AvP on dvd.
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Originally Posted by DRG
Unfortunately I think the franchise has been devalued to the point I can't imagine a decent director would attach themselves to an AvP movie.
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How did you guys feel about the
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Originally Posted by chanster
The Alien lifecycle was followed in Alien 3 too for the most part...Alien Resurrection it somewhat followed it, there was just so many time jumps in hte movie.. the cycle still held. (except for the idiotic Newborn stuff, which I think is the root of all these neato combinations we are seeing now - the Newborn sucked when it came out and these hybrids still suck)
The last 2 movies are just plain garbage. The great thing about the cycle is that it gives time to build the suspense, character development with the humans - these new movies don't care to build any character development.
I'm tired of people claiming "its a new form of the Alien" - it can do what it wants!!!! No, it can't. You might as not use the "Alien" from Aliens if you are going to pull these type of rewriting their established lifecycles..its dumb. If its ability to sprout little buggers outside its mouth comes from its Predator parent, well that was never shown in any of the Predator movies either, so I don't know how it could pick that up from its Predator "parent"
Now Aliens did change Alien a bit, but it did not overwrite anything seen in the movie. In fact it played it pretty well within the rules established by Alien..not like Avp or aVPR, which had aliens being born in minutes..its just dumb.
The last 2 movies are just plain garbage. The great thing about the cycle is that it gives time to build the suspense, character development with the humans - these new movies don't care to build any character development.
I'm tired of people claiming "its a new form of the Alien" - it can do what it wants!!!! No, it can't. You might as not use the "Alien" from Aliens if you are going to pull these type of rewriting their established lifecycles..its dumb. If its ability to sprout little buggers outside its mouth comes from its Predator parent, well that was never shown in any of the Predator movies either, so I don't know how it could pick that up from its Predator "parent"
Now Aliens did change Alien a bit, but it did not overwrite anything seen in the movie. In fact it played it pretty well within the rules established by Alien..not like Avp or aVPR, which had aliens being born in minutes..its just dumb.
Originally Posted by chanster
Of course, the obvious choice for a decent Alien movie is the Derelict ship prequel...but guess that will never come to be either....I guess movies have to have humans of some sort in them.even though by all accounts the human characters in AvP and AvPR were just idiotiic (I haven't seen AvPr - but I can only imagine)
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Originally Posted by chanster
I'm tired of people claiming "its a new form of the Alien" - it can do what it wants!!!! No, it can't. You might as not use the "Alien" from Aliens if you are going to pull these type of rewriting their established lifecycles..its dumb. If its ability to sprout little buggers outside its mouth comes from its Predator parent, well that was never shown in any of the Predator movies either, so I don't know how it could pick that up from its Predator "parent"
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Saw it last night and I thought It was shot way too dark and that definately pissed me as i wanted to see every frame. Having a day to think on it, It was marginally better than AVP but still a fun time waster. Would I have loved for it to have been the most awesome AVP flick ever...abso-freakin'-lutely, but what i got was a mediocre monster movie. I can only hope that this is not the death knell for this franchise as there is so much yet to do. In all I enjoyed it but it certainly could have been much, much better.
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How did you guys feel about the
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