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Kelkee 07-03-07 01:47 PM


Originally Posted by Giles
I agree, people were even miffed that there were no Kenneth Branagh's Henry I, II, III or IV... ;)

'Story of Michael Myers' sounds so Lifetime-ish.

I said or some other such title. Just get off the 'Halloween' trainwreck.

Rebrand it and make it something else.

'Rob Zombie's Halloween Festival of Gore'. How bout that?

AllHallowsEve 07-05-07 06:53 PM

Pulled from OHMB:

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Rob has just released the tracklisting for the Halloween Soundtrack. The CD also features cool clips from the movie in between the music.

There will also be a separate CD available featuring Tyler Bates' score, which we will hopefully get information on soon.

Soundtrack tracklisting:
1. Don't Fear The Reaper (Blue Oyster Cult)
2. Love Hurts (Nazareth)
3. Baby, I Love Your Way (Peter Frampton)
4. Tom Sawyer (Rush)
5. Let It Ride (Bachman-Turner Overdrive)
6. God Of Thunder (Kiss)
7. Love Is Like Oxygen (The Sweet)
8. Only Women Bleed (Alice Cooper)
9. Halloween 2 (The Misfits)
10. Halloween Theme (Tyler Bates)
11. Michael Stalks Laurie (Tyler Bates)
12. Mr. Sandman (Nan Vernon)

The soundtrack will hit stores on August 21st 2007.

DthRdrX 07-05-07 07:13 PM

Well, I'm sure Zombie is shocked that someone told him to add more to one of his films instead of cutting violence/gore out.

Jackskeleton 07-11-07 01:56 AM

Saw a test screening... Total piece of shit.

Seriously. I wasn't some die hard fan of the halloween series or anything. I thought the original and the sequels were watchable films and all but this was just total shit.. hmmm perhaps I should say it in a manner that most, if not all the characters talk like in the film

This fuck'n movie fuck'n sucked fuck'n fuck fuck asshole.... FUCK!

JaxComet 07-11-07 02:01 PM


Originally Posted by troystiffler
Hrmph. I thought there was more love for Zombie after "The Devil's Rejects" came out. I really enjoyed. I feel like he's just one or two movies away from making a GREAT film (horror, schlock, or whatever it be).

The trailer was alright. Didn't get me too psyched about seeing it. But I'll see it anyways. In my eyes, it's got plenty potential to be good.


It could be okay. I'll be willing to give it a watch. The old Halloween still holds up fairly well but it's far from perfect. I still find the 25-30 year olds playing teenagers a bit silly buy that's what they did back then.........

Obey The D 07-11-07 02:26 PM


Originally Posted by JaxComet
I still find the 25-30 year olds playing teenagers a bit silly buy that's what they did back then.........

They still do. Danielle Harris is over 30 and she's playing Annie Brackett in the remake.

Seantn 07-11-07 02:43 PM

She's the same age as the woman who played her original role. The only one who was close to being the real age was Jamie Lee, who was 18 or 19 at the time.

chanster 07-11-07 02:49 PM

John Carpenter (aka Bowling Green) wrote the one and only Halloween theme. Its a movie classic..no matter how many times it was used in shitty sequels.

Zen Peckinpah 07-11-07 09:16 PM


Originally Posted by Obey The D
They still do. Danielle Harris is over 30 and she's playing Annie Brackett in the remake.

Keep forgetting she was also the daughter in The Last Boy Scout too.

Rival11 07-11-07 09:23 PM

As corny as Rejects got towards the end, I still have trust in Rob to pull this off. As someone mentioned above, he his willing to change his style to suit the story and I really thought the trailer looked excellent. Nothing looked too over the top and he's catering to the die hards of the original as well (as he should sice he his one too, even though he nit-picked the original in an interview he wasn't bashing it - he was just pointing out mainly what he would have like to seen more of i.e. why Michael is so evil - always touched on in the original but never shown.

AllHallowsEve 07-12-07 01:18 AM

Here are some reviews:

The Aintitcool ones are from the mid-June screening (before the reshoots), the others (top and bottom) are from today (from last night's screening) -- All contain spoilers, so be warned:

http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu...ogID=286387066

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/33079

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/33082

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/33100

http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Rob-Z...view-5733.html

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For those who don't want to read them due to spoilers, there's an average-positive slant.

AllHallowsEve 07-12-07 02:08 AM

Added:

Here's another:

http://popculturebeast.blogspot.com/...boogeyman.html

Kicker_of_Elves 07-12-07 05:52 AM


Originally Posted by Jackskeleton
Saw a test screening... Total piece of shit.

Seriously. I wasn't some die hard fan of the halloween series or anything. I thought the original and the sequels were watchable films and all but this was just total shit.. hmmm perhaps I should say it in a manner that most, if not all the characters talk like in the film

This fuck'n movie fuck'n sucked fuck'n fuck fuck asshole.... FUCK!

Awww man! :(

islandclaws 07-12-07 11:59 AM

My friend was at the screening on Tues (I passed, apparently a wise decision) and he said it was lame. Now keep in mind this guy is a major Halloween fan. He's well known as such in the horror film community so I trust his take on this. I'm still going to see the movie but this doesn't come as much of a surprise to me. He said many of the death scenes were flat and uninspired and that the entire backstory only served to dilute the mystique of Michael. However, none of this is surprising since no one, not even the man John Carpenter himself, could remake Halloween better. Why remake a movie you can't possibly do a better job with? He said it's essentially The Devil's Rejects meets Michael Myers. Take that for what it's worth.

AllHallowsEve 07-12-07 01:41 PM


Originally Posted by KillerCannabis
dilute the mystique of Michael.

Didn't this happen already when he was controlled by a cult and getting smacked upside the head/kung-fu-d by Busta Rhymes? Michael's mystique has been gone for many, many years in my opinion.

It really started during part 2 when Laurie was revealed as Michael's sister. Therefore, giving him purpose and throwing mystique out the window. However, even Carpenter hated the script (which he wrote) so what can you do...

So even if true, it's not a new thing. I don't expect something leveling the first film, but if this film can't even top half of the atrocious sequels, I'll be very disappointed.

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I wouldn't even trust Carpenter to make a successful horror film today. He's changed and turned into a money hog which is a shame. This was once a guy with a spark in his eye (as lame as that sounds) who wanted to bring out good/fun films. He was very ambitious. If he succeeded or failed is up to the person, but at least he meant well.

Wes Craven has also run out of steam. Look at how "The Hills Have Eyes 2" remake turned out. Truly one of the worst film in a long time.

Eli Roth? Ick...

This genre really needs someone with some form of creativity to rise. I'm getting sick of all the crap myself, so I know where many of you guys are coming from. I was really looking forward to Trick r' Treat, but it's been moved back.

onebyone 07-12-07 02:27 PM


Originally Posted by AllHallowsEve
Didn't this happen already when he was controlled by a cult and getting smacked upside the head/kung-fu-d by Busta Rhymes? Michael's mystique has been gone for many, many years in my opinion.


Agreed, Michael's a chump and has been for a long time. He got his ass handed to him by Busta Rhymes for Pete's sake. There's no mystique. If Rob can bring any life into him at all, I will be impressed.

The reviews that were linked sound interesting and I look forward to it. I hope it's the rebirth of the dead, gone, and buried franchise. If it's not, my world will go on, and my Halloween dvd won't explode into flames because the remake was made.

islandclaws 07-12-07 02:46 PM

I'll agree that Michael has been diluted to death, but I still don't need some overly long backstory on how he had a fucked up childhood, he's bipolar and now he's just another psycho in a mask. He's not even (apparently) indestructible. At least before you didn't know <i>why</i> he couldn't be killed, now we know why he's fucked up and that he's just another big dude in a mask. Either way it's still going to be better than Halloween 8, though.

AllHallowsEve 07-12-07 04:29 PM


Originally Posted by KillerCannabis
I'll agree that Michael has been diluted to death, but I still don't need some overly long backstory on how he had a fucked up childhood, he's bipolar and now he's just another psycho in a mask. He's not even (apparently) indestructible. At least before you didn't know <i>why</i> he couldn't be killed, now we know why he's fucked up and that he's just another big dude in a mask. Either way it's still going to be better than Halloween 8, though.

Do they really explain Michael as being "bi-polar" in this film? I couldn't tell if you're kidding or not. It's hard to tell; I could take that either way.

Oh lord, it will be the opening of Scary Movie 5 if that's true.

Either way, thanks. You did put a smile on my face. Not that it's good news (it's awful if real), but it did make me laugh.

AllHallowsEve 07-12-07 08:43 PM

Here's an IMDB mini-review:

"i went to the same screening and had a very different reaction to this film i dont want to trash it cause i know rob zombie put alot of work into it and i really like the guys music and devils rejects but i have to this movie has no suspence and that not coparing it to the other you just always know where myers is always my opinon would be if anyone is that interested go see it cause you might love it but had to show a different side."

Yes, trying to decipher what this means is quite difficult.

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My favorite part comes next when one of the posters there responded to this review:

"I'm shocked you found your way to the screening considering you come across as mentally retarded. Like the guy who sees red on the street light, but, nonetheless continues walking into oncoming traffic. No offense... We all have our issues."

d2cheer 07-13-07 12:42 PM

If this is as bad as it sounds and as the reviewers are making it out, maybe this will finally put an end to John Carpenter remakes... one can hope anyway.

AllHallowsEve 07-13-07 12:47 PM


Originally Posted by d2cheer
If this is as bad as it sounds and as the reviewers are making it out, maybe this will finally put an end to John Carpenter remakes... one can hope anyway.

Well, most of the "officially" written reviews were on the positive side -- or close to it.

I really take anything I read at IMDB, etc., with a grain of salt. They don't really list why they didn't like the movie, or any form of details. So, it's likely they never saw the movie. One guy even went out of his way to write a two page review -- which was declared false because scenes were explained that don't exist in the film.

I did ask several questions and received no response.

There is also a group of digruntled Carpenter fans trying to destroy this movie. They picketed the film and are spreading BS all across the internet. The picketing even made our news when it happened.

It really makes no sense, because if they are so against anything ruining their beloved original, why didn't they picket Halloween 2 and so on... Halloween 2-8 (sans 3) are basically nothing more than remakes in the form of bloody tape loops anyway. Even John Carpenter still wants to picket Halloween 2 -- and it's 26 years later.

Seantn 07-13-07 02:09 PM

Reviews seem split, some hate it and some love it

AllHallowsEve 07-13-07 02:50 PM


Originally Posted by Seantn
Reviews seem split, some hate it and some love it

Do you happen to know of any other sites that have posted actual reviews (besides Halloweenmovies, Aintitcool, and Cinema Blend)?

Basically, I'm looking for "real" reviews. Not just "I hate it" or "I love it" (that doesn't say much of anything, and it leaves big questions on if they actually saw it or not).

Dump the IMDB. It's useless for information, but that's common knowledge for any film.

I'm interested in reading both the positive and negative ones.

Thanks.

P.S. I'm still wondering if Michael being Bi-Polar is an actual plot point in this film.

Jackskeleton 07-13-07 03:45 PM

This will be an FBI text just to avoid someone falling into spoilers

Spoiler:
The major problem in this film is that they take away the mystery behind Myers. He's just some off kid who likes to kill animals and eventually moves up to "kill anything but his baby sister" mode. It's rather stupid. The film opens up with true Rob Zombie fashion and the dialogue is awful. I mean, really really awful. We meet the dysfunctional myers family in all their glory. Moon played Myers mom in only a way that lacked any emotion and replaced it with crazed up bitch while she entertained having a worthless deadbeat new husband. You have the typical sexed up sister who gets hit on by deadbeat new husband and you see how Myers grew up with a stupid clown mask hiding his terrible anti-social behavior of killing small animals and taking Polaroids of. This introduces Malcolm McDowell as Dr. Loomis who warns of little mikey's future problems a good two minutes before Michael kills his first person. A school bully who went one step too far in picking on Myers. This death goes unnoticed and forgotten though as it's Halloween and Myers now jumps to killing deadbeat step dad, his sisters boy toy (who, by chance introduces the Myers Mask during sex) Myers eventually works his way up to were his sister is sleeping and finds the mask, puts it on and takes a stab at his sis. We're shown how much he loves his younger sister "boo" as we will call her and how he's waiting outside with boo in hand for his mother to arrive back from working at a strip club. Thanks Rob, as if we haven't seen Moon naked or stripping for us enough.

So that's how it starts out, the madness. Dr. Loomis becomes the caretaker of Myers as he grows up in "the system" as we find out that Myers is an entirely different person without the mask on as he is with them on. He doesn't remember anything bad he did while he is hiding behind some mask and as he grows older his jail cell fills with paper made mask. It's like the WWE called and demanded they put Kane into this film.

So after about 15 years of this (or so the black screen with white text would tell us) go by we see Myers grow to be the size of a house. Dr. Loomis eventually gives up on Myers and retires writing a book about his findings. For some odd reason, after 15 years of staying in the same cell an order comes down to move the big lug. Oh the escape in this shot is just so bad. The only real saving grace.. well, infact, it wasn't much of a saving grace was Danny Trejo's cameo in the film as one of the prison workers who grows to take care of Myers over the years. Don't worry, Myers does his big ol' actions and kills him without mercy last before he escapes.

So now he kills a lot of people for shits and giggles and goes back to find his old original Myers rubber mask, which I'm sure that after 15 years of being hidden in the crawl space of a broke down house would be just as good as new! We're finally introduced to the adult Laurie who you can tell from a mile away is Boo. Zombie really screwed the pooch here because Laurie's character development is used by Zombie as much as I use spell check. She was a flat character who was basiclly the good one of her group of slutty friends. I'm already bored talking about this but let's just say the movie was pretty bad. Oh yeah, Dr. Loomis eventually tries to stop Myers by warning the town shierff after the escape. I can only imagine you have some idea what happens in the resolution of that.

Myers is not made the unstoppable monster we knew of him before and really, it's a shame. Because of the whole idea of making him human by character flaws you pretty much raise an eyebrow when he takes a couple of shots and stands up or takes a knife to the shoulder blade and keeps walking.


Yeah... it was pretty bad.

onebyone 07-13-07 03:50 PM

There's a lot of good reviews so I don't think the reviews make it sound bad at all. All the bad ones because they all have one thing in common - they don't want the mystery of Michael lifted at all. I think it is a deal or no deal matter. I think I will be able to deal with it myself so I am not too worried.

Some of the haters have been bashing the movie since it was announced, and some of the people who like it have been hyping it since that very time. As for me, I'll make my own call on opening day.


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