I really wouldn't have minded or cared if the mystery was lifted. It's the way they lifted it into something that is totally cliche and over used already that makes it something that is nothing new and most of all, very uninteresting.

Not to mention that if you lift that mystery healing factor then you have to actually face the reality that someone who gets stabbed in the shoulder blade can't be breaking down walls with single punches after. Or should be standing or even moving after taking a couple of rounds to the back.

If you make him into some total pussy who only wants to find his little sister and wear stupid paper mask then that relentless killer who can't be stopped needs to get tossed into the back seat.

The movie hasn't even come out (and of course I haven't seen it yet) but I'm already hoping for an unrated DVD, considering the stuff that is getting cut.

Too bad Zombie isn't exactly known for coming through with those.

Devil's Rejects did.

So Jack, is this pretty extreme in terms of content? One of the great things about the original is that it's so restrained, that even a casual horror fan like myself (more suspense/thriller rather than slasher/gorefest) can enjoy it.... but this one sounds like the exact opposite.

Also, do rock songs pop up every othere scene or is there some actual quiet moments?

A question about these screenings..

Well, it's not all that fair to comment on this as a lot of test screenings use generic filler soundtracks/songs. I saw Narnia that had a lot of bjork songs in it. But Zombie managed to fit in "(Don't Fear) The Reaper" in about two or three death scenes which had me calling for more cowbell.

There is a lot of classic rock songs and very little silent moments during the killings that it does become less suspense and more gore.

As for

Fuck.. I just realized that there was THREE CLICHE horror film killings in the same fashion in one movie. Fuck you Rob Zombie. Fuck you!

Weird. A few of those "reviews" mention that. Maybe those were the screenings held in NYC and it didn't make it to your coast?

Monsters HD has been showing the first five Halloween flicks and a documentary today. Right now, they're reshowing HIII: Season Of the Witch. It's a shame it gets trashed as much as it does. It's really not that bad of a flick...right?

I hope that they cut it actually. It is the one thing in some of the "reviews" that sounds like it would be better off on the cutting room floor.

The film originally made it through the MPAA intact before the reshoots with no cuts. They approved it.

Not sure if the new version -- with added gore and violence -- will make it through intact or not. There's been no news on that yet.

And yes... Devil's Rejects did have an Unrated release, so that will probably happen with this film -- if anything is cut.

The MPAA has been relatively lenient lately. Makes sense: There's been really no major violent events linked to movies lately. They usually get cut happy when something happens or too many people start complaining. There'll be "scissor happy" periods again -- at the sign of the next major event most likely -- but it's not today.

If Hostel 2 were a hit, that would have led to an MPAA crackdown, but fortunately no one saw the movie. It basically bombed, so no one cared enough to complain. It's the hits that usually lead to the problems. Friday the 13th... Scream... The Matrix... etc.

It wouldn't have been that bad if it didn't have a ton of obvious plot holes. I'm forgiving when it comes to horror films, but some of those are pretty bad (the west coast feed is being played after the east coast one, wouldn't word get out of what happened?).

I looked at in a whole new light after watching the doc on the Halloween 25th anniversary DVD. Carpenter not wanting to do any more MM movies (and who would really cry if they stopped at 1 and 2?), instead wanting to do a different stand alone horror movie every year under the Halloween banner. I wish it would have worked, that would have rocked.

I'm thinking that the "six new deaths" are probably the existing death scenes re-shot to be more graphic.

That worries me a bit. As Living mentioned, I'm not looking forward to an "insanely gory" Halloween remake. As far as I'm concerned, the original Halloween worked because instead of putting an emphasis on gore and trying to gross out the viewers, Carpenter & Co. focused on making the movie scary.

Hoping this is good. If anybody can pull it off, Rob Zombie can.

I think it would have worked, if they would have gotten a better story or rewrote it. The fact that Micheal isn't in it doesn't bother me, the story itself needs some work. They had the right ideas and were almost there.

I think it would have worked if they went with Carpenter's idea NOT to do Halloween 2. Back then no one expected sequels, after the 2nd one people realized they could have more of what they liked (which was Michael).

John Carpenter had a made for HBO anthology movie in 1993 (with Tobe Hopper!) called Body Bags (as far as I know it’s never been out on DVD). If he were to do that in 2 hour "episodes" every year for theatrical release I think it would have gone over well, and maybe have started a trend in Hollywood.

Well I got news for you, he didn't. :p

I think the character changes are really going to bother people who are familiar with the character. It won't effect the mainstream much at all.

I hate to say it, but a good portion of the populace doesn't even know what they're watching.

H20 was the last major Halloween film, and it showed. The amount of people asking the most idiotic questions was staggering: Is that her brother? Who is she? I thought her name was Jamie Lee? Is he wearing a vest?

It really just ruined the whole experience. I expect this film to be the same way.

You'll have a bunch of new people who don't know it's a remake; you'll have a new generation explaining how "deep" and action packed it is compared to the original; and in general, for the rest of our days, there will be "remake" vs. "original" thread fights on websites all across the globe.

It's certainly going to be one ugly opening weekend. I'll be taking that one off.

Yep, no matter how it does, the internet is going to be ugly when it hits. I am going to see it, post my two cents, and avoid every Halloween thread for at least two weeks after that. The haters and the fans have been squaring off for months now and it hasn't even been properly released yet. Lord knows what is going to happen when it is released. They are still cleaning up the Dawn of the Dead bloodshed.

I'm pretty sure the bloodshed from that incident was cleaned up when everyone actually saw it and was like, "Wow, that was actually pretty good. I should probably stop posting schmucky comments to films that I've never seen before."

Yeah, I think I was the first to eat the biggest serving of crow pie when Dawn of the Dead came out. I'm sure if you search the forums you would see me totally bash the very idea of remaking such an awesome film and then seeing it and being blown away at how good it was and how wrong I was.

I'm not opposed to remakes. I'm just opposed to them when they are done terribly like what is the case here with Halloween.

You think? I remember the fighting going on long after that, but I could be wrong. I liked the movie (save one zombie baby) and remember going into the thread and thinking, "damn, I am not jumping into that mess." Maybe I have this place confused with another forum that is still are prone to fights about it.

Regardless, I cannot wait for Halloween and won't be jumping into the fray about it, love it or hate it. I trust Rob more than most directors who have helmed a remake.

That 'documentary" I mention on MonstersHD was actually 6 minutes of PJ Soles, Nancy Loomis & Charles Cyphers talking about Halloween and its fans. And the other 9 was Rob and Rob's manager talking about the original and Rob's remake. Rob made some comments that were terribly hypocritical. So much so, I wish I had recorded it or wrote them down for accuracy.

One was a comment about "remakes".

The other was his comment about Michael being so scary because he's a "blank slate" and the audience projects their fears onto him (that much I did remember) - I thought that was ironic, since he's supposedly doing everything in his power to make sure Mike's "slate" is far from blank..

In Halloween 1 and 2, Carpenter listed the killer as only "The Shape" in the credits (other than when listing the actor/actors who played him without the mask).

EXCL: Rob Zombie Interview from July 20, 2007:

http://www.shocktillyoudrop.com/news/topnews.php?id=825

someone explain to me the genius of opening this movie on August 31st and not sometime in... ohh, I dunno... October?!