After watching Pro-Life, I would like to say that no, that's not true. Not at all. Forget The Devil's Rejects. Any of Zombie's music videos rank higher than that mess.

Why can't I find the original seantn quote quoted above? and is it true? that's a pretty horrible thing to say.

You make fun of the other guy, but your statement is even worse. Carpenter at his worst? Do you even know who Carpenter is? Have you seen all of his movies?

I agree. Carpenter has released some awful films in his time. People are still living through the low-budget success artist -- and that's a man we haven't seen in many years.

Carpenter is all about the cash nowadays. It's like he disappeared and some doppelganger took his place. He appears to show no care towards any of his projects anymore. Look how quickly he tossed The Fog.

I'm not saying Zombie is great. Just saying that it's possible Zombie could release something manageable.

And no, I'm not a fan... I thought House of 1000 Corpses was an utterly terrible film. However, The Devils Rejects showed improvement. Maybe this can show even more improvement. If not, a disappointment is nothing we haven't been through with this series already. I just hope that's not the case.

Well, Carpenter has been quick to point out that his involvement on the remakes is extremely minimal. I suppose the dude has to make money somehow since he's not making anything except MoH episodes.

But yeah, Ghosts of Mars was edited terribly (not sure if this is Carpenter's fault or not). It's too bad because the plot was intriguing and could have at least made for a fun B-movie. I haven't seen Village of the Damned but I hear it is terrible, and Vampires got pretty boring after the opening. But Carpenter in his prime was one of my favorite filmmakers of all time. I didn't even really realize it, until I tallied up the number of Carpenter films in my collection. It's too bad, though -- he can so eloquently explain his process in an audio commentary -- why can't he put together a good film anymore? It seems like one should go hand in hand with the other...

I think this remake looks like a blast, though. I hope Zombie didn't bash Carpenter so badly, though. That would be pretty fucking ridiculous.

Seantn's post on Zombie putting Carpenter on blast is a joke. I mean, burning the original negatives to the first Halloween? Come on.

I thought it sounded like a joke, but...you never know.

I love the original Halloween. I remember being scared shitless the first time I watched it. I really do love the movie and it's probably my favorite horror film of all time. It's very close to my heart but I still openly welcome the remake. I don't see why not. It's another take on a classic story. The original movie will be just as good after this is released so I'm really not worried.

This is the same feeling I had when going into the Dawn of the Dead remake. If Halloween is my favorite horror movie then DotD is my second favorite. I liked the DotD remake. I'm a fan of the concept, so I really enjoyed it. Did I think it was better than the original? No chance in hell it was better than the original. But I really enjoyed it and it didn't tarnish the original for me at all.

There's been all this talk about the teenage audience and the "porno-horror" films that are being made. I'm relatively young, 20, and I absolutely hate the Saw films and all that other "horror" shit that has been released lately. I'm a fan of violence in movies. I don't know why but it has always just been fun to me. I'm not a fan of violence in real life at all. I'm all against violence and gore in real life. But in the movies I like, I think it's neat to have violence that suits the action on-screen. But this recent Saw shit really turns me off. I think a good story is in order and the violence helps that story along. Saw, Hostel and all that other shit are solely based on the violence and have no purpose.

I'm not a fan of Zombie's music. I listened to it a bit when I was in middle-school, when Zombie was at his peak but I'm not a fan. I really liked some of the elements of House of 1,000 Corpses but it isn't a great movie. I really enjoyed The Devil's Rejects though. I thought Zombie had improved a lot by the second movie. This Halloween remake was going to happen no matter what and I can't think of anyone better to direct it. I think that Zombie will put an interesting twist on the movie. He is making the movie his own, if he were going to just make a straight up remake, what would be the point?

And I really don't see this movie being any worse than the God-awful sequels.

I'm also still really excited to see McDowell as Loomis, I think that is perfect casting.

And as for that "qoute" of Zombie saying that stuff about the original and remaking Night of the Living Dead, I don't believe.

The Devil's Rejects was the surprise entry to my 2005 best list...great horror movie. William Forsythe actually gave an award-worthy performance IMO, and I would have never expected that.

Much like the DOTD remake, I'm cautiously optimistic. That remake turned out to be fantastic, even if it wasn't the classic Romero's original was. What I'm thinking here is for Zombie will use the true crime-like template he had with DR and mold it from there with the Michael Myers mythology. It most likely will not touch the classically atmospheric and uneasy tone the original had, but I'm confident that he might be in the right place.

Also, Malcolm McDowell as Loomis? A big FUCK YEAH to that. To me, he isn't just the guy from A Clockwork Orange, he's just goddamned underrated. I mean, Mick Travis as Loomis...can't get any better than that.

Can't wait for the full trailer and marketing to kick in.

I'm excited.

The Poster for Zombie's Halloween

http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/news/9040

For the lazy:

http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/1...n060507eu2.jpg

It also says the following at BD:

Um, no! It's not! If you want my honest opinion of Rejects, I'll provide you to a review that I completely agree with. James Berardinelli's Devil's Rejects review with a caption:

"Aside from its poor production values, horrendous acting, and ignoble morality, The Devil's Rejects isn't engaging cinema. Even if the simple act of sitting in a movie theater watching people get hacked up for 90 minutes doesn't bother you, the dullness and repetition is likely to. The ending is a cataclysmic misfire - not only is it drawn out and self-indulgent (cut down on the slow-motion!), but it robs viewers of a chance at a catharsis and re-enforces the argument that Zombie's lone point was to create mayhem. The Devil's Rejects doesn't just deserve to be rejected, but to be buried in a hole so dank that no one will discover it. Only there will it be at home."

http://www.reelviews.net/movies/d/devils_rejects.html

Well since I'm a big fan, I obviously know who he is. I've seen his clunkers. But even his clunkers were more entertaining than any sh*t Zombie ever turned out.

Yeah, that's the best news out of this production. I think he'll do a good job, though it's doubtful he could live up to Pleasance. It's like remaking A New Hope and having some not named Guiness playing Obi-Wan.

Ewan McGregor was a better Obi-Wan than Guiness was. :p

'Halloween' Gets Insanely Gory, New Ending!

Some crazy new Intel came into B-D this morning as we've been informed that Rob Zombie has been hard at work filming new material for his remake of Halloween, which is slated for release on August 31. Today ended seven straight days of grueling filming around the Los Angeles area, which included the addition of six, count 'em, six new death sequences! The film has been given a serious boost in violence, gore and bloodshed... but that's not the big news - we received word that an entire new finale has been shot. Details are mum on what is different, but we're told the new ending is quite gruesome!! Watch for the return of Michael Myers in classic fashion in only two months.


BLOODY-DISGUSTING.com

Dimension Studios and Reshoots... That usually doesn't end well (I actually don't think it's ended well ever). Halloween 6, Halloween: Resurrection, Hellraiser: Bloodline, and Black Christmas '06 being prime examples.

Dimension Films really is the butcher studio. Up the blood and gore to make up for no substance in the actual film. Funny how all these reshoots were ordered immediately after the test screening.

Let's hope the foreign/indie fans don't enter this thread. We'll be hearing for hours how they butcher decent overseas films too. Which is actually true...

I'm hoping this time is different. Rob Zombie hasn't commented on any of this yet, but it's the weekend. They'll probably be more news on this soon.

Six new deaths? Since they can't really add in six new MAJOR characters, my guess would be that these 6 people are going to be killed during Michael's escape at the beginning, or something along those lines. People introduced just so they can die 1 scene later.

And as for "insanely" gory, that's a stupid headline as it will just hype something up that can't possibly be met... and, well we all know how insanely gory the original Halloween was, right?

Oh wait...

Hrmph. I thought there was more love for Zombie after "The Devil's Rejects" came out. I really enjoyed. I feel like he's just one or two movies away from making a GREAT film (horror, schlock, or whatever it be).

The trailer was alright. Didn't get me too psyched about seeing it. But I'll see it anyways. In my eyes, it's got plenty potential to be good.

Right, but both movie's he has done don't even have the remote feel of what the original Halloween was about. I think that is the biggest problem, people don't want a "insanely gory" Halloween remake.

Oh, it's nothing to really do with Rob Zombie.

It's just that when tons of reshoots are ordered after filming's completed (in this case March), it almost always means there are "big problems" with the film. Why else would reshoots need to be ordered this late? The film is suppose to be in post production at this point, not filming new stuff.

Why would the production or Zombie need 6 new death sequences (more than the first film had total; just new -- not counting the 10 or so others) and an entirely new finale if filming went well? Three+ months after filming supposedly finished?

That's the point. It seems like they're upping the blood and gore to make up for massive suckage potential. I could be very wrong, and I hope I am. It just seems to be the usual Dimension MO.

I tend to think Dimension makes horrible movies (when reshoots or editing are involved), so I'm not the best person to ask either.

Some will point to "Scream" and say that was good for a Dimension horror film. *None* of the Scream films had major reshoots during post production.

What Dimension horror films involved major reshoots? Halloween 6, Halloween: Resurrection, Black Christmas '06, Hellraiser 4 and a few other stinkers I can't think of. There's a theme there and anyone who's seen those films probably knows what it is.

I don't think that's a problem, really. The movie was finished filming in March, and was test screened for the first time about 2 weeks ago, and the re-shoots happened last week. They put themselves in the position of making the film and releasing it within a matter of 7-8 months, so that's the only reason for the close-to-release re-shoots.

Then they can go watch the original. If they're going to remake a film, then it better be a different take or there is no point.

Also, I wouldn't say either of his previous two films felt all that similar. Which is a good thing because it shows he is willing to change his style to suit the story. It also shows he isn't just a one noter.

I want to see this new Halloween because it's a Rob Zombie film, the fact that he is taking on Michael Meyers is just an interesting hook.

Also, I wouldn't presume to know what people want. Maybe an insanely gory Halloween is just what the people (whoever they are) want. The point of this remake is to shake up the Halloween franchise and make it something new and fresh (not to say the original is old and busted, but just different).

Then why not rebrand it completely instead of taking the same title and riding the coattails of the franchise?

Taking the same title, characters and such is a remake. Not something new and fresh. Halloween doesnt need a remaking. If he wants to retell it new and fresh I think it would be better to rebrand it "The Story of Michael Meyers" or some other such title.

Gore is not scary. More gore does not make it more scary. Its a complete lack of the ability to tell a story properly that one would have to resort to the over the top "insanely gory" cop out.

I mean if the whole point of the reshoots is to make it more "Saw/Hostel"-esque then what a waste of film. To cut and paste in edits that mimic the "hard-R" trend is tedious and unoriginal. Certainly not "new and fresh".

Welcome to last year. The movie has been remade, and being the millionth person to post "Halloween shouldn't be remade!" won't do anything to change that.

As for a remake - I think if they're going to remake it, they should do their own thing with it. The Dawn of the Dead remake did it right. Different characters, different ending, same setting, but different things happening.

If they actually called it "The Story of Michael Myers" then they'd be morons. Nobody would see that, where as people will actually go see a Halloween film that doesn't have a digit placed next to it's title.

I agree, people were even miffed that there were no Kenneth Branagh's Henry I, II, III or IV... ;)

'Story of Michael Myers' sounds so Lifetime-ish.