So having read the last few post can i assume Rob Zombie fucked up another directing gig? :lol: -ohbfrank-

I swear, I just don't get all the hype for this guy's movie gigs. Oh well...

I liked it but I didn't LOVE it. I enjoyed the parts that were clearly a Rob Zombie joint. I like HIS stuff in his style and I was thinking this movie was going to be fabulous. The much maligned take on the Myers family was GREAT and scary and fun too and I feel like I got my moneys worth on that part alone. I also loved the use of masks throughout.

Once it switched to the actual Halloween story, I thought it was less interesting. It was still good for standard slasher fare, but seemed divorced from the rest of the movie which I felt was much more interesting. It kind of made me wish it was just a Rob Zombie movie and not remotely related to another movie. I wasn't keen on the ending though. I didnt see the workprint, but it smelled to high hell of studio interference. I guess I will watch the workprint and see if I like that ending better.

Regardless, it didnt totally meet my expectations, but it is still my 4th favorite in the Halloween franchise. I liked it MUCH better than the last 2 Halloween movies.

The ending sucked hard.

Pretty much agree with what has been said regarding the 2nd half of the film. Also Laurie was pretty much the same as the other 2 girls. Overall, this film didn't need to be made at all.

Saw it. Didn't hate it, but it wasn't all that it could be IMO. It was obvious that Zombie has respect for the originals, but this seemed rather bland. It's like Halloween with specks of Rob Zombie in it as a opposed to a Halloween movie made by Rob Zombie, if that makes sense. I guess I just wanted more of the sleazy stuff that I liked about House of 1,000 Corpses and Devil's Rejects. This seemed too watered down for him. I also didn't care for them turning Myers into a massive hulk. I also thought he did a good job with connections to other movies at some point, whether intentional or not. Like Loomis talking about the "stare of the devil" underneath the leer of young Michael. The irony is that it's Malcolm McDowell and the stare is almost identical to the one he gives at the beginning of A Clockwork Orange. I also didn't like them turning Laurie Strode into more of a twerp teen.
The only thing I really thought stood out in this movie: Sheri Moon. Say what you will about Zombie putting his wife in everything, but I think she really gave a good performance. Having seen her role in his previous outings, I knew this was a completely different character for her. She's not a Meryl Streep by any means, but I definitely think she has some decent acting ability.
In short, Zombie made this like a superhero movie except it's about a psycho killer. The first half is the origin, and the second half is the actual Halloween story we all know. I just kind of wish the second half was more than a synopsis of the original with some more blood and nudity tossed into it.

i've only seen the workprint. If you compare it to the original or other classic horror films, you will be sorely disappointed. If you just see it as a few hours of entertainment, it's not too bad.

The rape scene which leads to Michael's escape was totally unnecessary and probably only put in to keep up with Hills have eyes 2. The kills were a bit unimaginative and yes way too many. Killed off any suspense with the them, it was just moving on from kill to kill

I actually liked all the scenes with 10 year old Michael much more than the rest of the film.

yes there were some topless chicks but none really that hot so that was worthless.

and i have had enough of Sherri Moon

Thankfully, MonstersHD is now showing the only version of Halloween worth seeing.

One of Zombie's gripes about the original that he's mentioned in interviews was Michael driving the car to get away from Smith's Grove.

I guess he saw the version that followed Michael's every footstep in the fifteen years after he kills his sister, because the version I saw jumped ahead without showing what transpired. Perhaps he took driver's ed when he wasn't busy making masks? :rolleyes:

i can't believe how many of you really HATED this film. in the sold out cinemark stadium i was in, the rowdy crowd applaused for a good minute during the credits.

the movie was pretty fun, somewhat scary, and possibly worth a 2nd viewing. I found myself nervous and excited through many scenes. Being a fan of the original (and even the sequels, except for "Curse of Michael" which is IMO the WORST Halloween) and a fan of Zombie's Devils Rejects and 1000 corpses, I went in with high hopes for this.

so if you're reading these reviews and comments, i'd recommend seeing this if you're on the fence. if you hate zombie's other stuff or think that nothing can possibly touch the gem that the first film is, maybe wait for dvd.

pros: best halloween since #1, good acting, being surprised by Danielle Harris' return to the franchise, an overall fun movie, some new backstory to Meyer's thoughts, some cool death scenes

cons: TOO much emphasis on meyers, not nearly enough on Strode; drawn out ending could've been cut down quite a bit, some plot points that make you go "huh?", no real "closet" scene or "sit up" scene (which, if scenes were to be remade, it SHOULD be those)... also, one could argue that Laurie Strode's character is miscast as she is somewhat forgettable.

now i'm off to watch the workprint for differences :-)

worst movie of the year?? you guys must've not seen many movies this year.

Saw it, hated it. What a waste of time and effort.

Finally saw it. It's no Devils Reject, Zombie's best film (I know he's only 3 deep now). My biggest problem is that everything felt rushed. Nothing slowed down to explore some interesting ideas, that never developed.

The final third, essentially 78's Halloween remade almost shot-for-shot was the most uninvolving scenes that didn't flow well with his first 2/3rds. It was predictable and somewhat a bore to watch.

I do appreciated the intensity Mane and RZ brought back to Myers and the look of the film, but pretty un-eventful, sadly enough. I was really looking forward to it.

Grade: C

My Hallo's ranked:
1-78 original
2-Halloween II
3-H20
4-Halloween 4
5-RZ's Halloween
6-Halloween 5
7-Halloween: Resurrection
8-Halloween 6

To mee, Halloween 3 doesn't count in the Myers-verse.

rotfl.... my thoughts exactly

Wow I just came home and boy did that movie suck. Nothing works in the film. Performances sucked, writing is awful, wasn't scary. Man, talk about disappointing.

I saw the theatrical cut after watching the workprint the other night.

The extra violence didn't help the film at all, the new ending was worse than the old ending (which also happened to suck), but at least they cut out the "out of the left fucking field" rape scene.

However, Rob Zombie is still a fucking hack.

in the theatrical cut, without the rape scene, how does Myers escape from the institution ?

I dont know how to spoilerize so quit reading now if you dont want it ruined for you....

I Just saw this last night. I'm a fan of Rob Zombie and also wanted to like this movie. I'm probably one of the few that didnt care for the original, so I thought it would be easy for Zombie to top it...
I thought the first half started out pretty good even though I think they shouldve given a little more time to Michael being abused....they showed him snap too quick I think.
When they get to adult Michael, thats when I think it got messy. The first half was basically killing people who deserved it (except the nurse, which didnt make sense to me). Anyway, the second half was all over the place. Why did he kill Danny Trejos character? Howd he get to Haddonfield? Howd he break those handcuffs to escape? Howd he know who his sister was or where she was? It was also very boring. Seemed he was on track with showing Michael as a kid, but blew it.

I liked how Zombie developed the Myers character but act two and three were a bit of a clusterfuck for me. I'll stick with the original. I kind of liked the mystery behind Michael's childhood.

Wow, this made an est. 10.5 million yesterday....This will obviouslt a very front-loaded film but thats still pretty good.

79 and counting! Although, to be fair I guess Halloween isn't the WORST of the year, but right now it's in my top 5 worst, alongside Primeval, Dead Silence, The Invisible and War.

OOOh, Dead Silence was this year, wasn't it? That's about as bad as Halloween.

The end of Dead Silence was pretty good but the rest of the movie was just plain out awful. It maybe wasn’t so much bad as it was just, boring. I was expecting a little more from the creators of the Saw franchise.

The Alternate ending to Dead Silence was actually better than the ending that made it into the final cut, both were very good though.

My opinion may not count for much..but,
 

As I too have only watched the work print I must say I did enjoy it because I was able to watch this with an open mind, I may be one of just a handful who has not watched the OG Halloween( no flaming please!) But after reading all the negative posts here about this movie and that one sided review at Chud.com I have concluded that all who have bashed this version of RZ's vision, re-imagined if you will did only compare it to the original and therefore did not like the show. I believe this movie will open the legacy that is Micheal Myers up to a whole new generation that may feel the original is just to lame. Bare with me on this,at almost 30 years old the original is way dated for the balls to the wall, go big or go home generation that we now live in. I am not saying this movie is without fault but for me it held my attention.Think for a moment of a remake you watched that was way better then the orginal. Now then as you see the operative word is remake,which RZ has stated several times,this movie is not a remake! This will be 50/50 movie,so be it. But for all you nay sayers,rejoice as RZ will not harm you story again.

I can respect your opinion on the movie, but it seems odd for someone who admittedly hasn't seen the original to make a statement like this. If the "go big or go home generation" means more blood, shakey cam/quick cuts, and being hit over the head with unecessary foul language are what's needed to impress....I'll pass. The remake had 0 suspense or scares for me, and I actually thought Rob punked out on the violence on a lot of the kills.

Was this the worst movie I have ever seen?.....No.
Was this the worst Halloween movie in the franchise?....In my opinion No.
Was this a good movie?....In my opinion No.

I would have liked this movie a lot better if Rob had made this movie his own from start to finish. I do think people should go see this though, and make their own opinions.

"I would have like this movie a lot better if Rob had made this movie his own from start to finish. I do think people should go see this though, and make their own opinions."

I like your statement above and agree 100%. You are right,people will question my comment since I have not seen the original. But that is why I said I can watch RZ's movie with an open mind. I grew up during the times of the slasher films ie Freddy ,Jason etc. MM just didn't seem to impress me much at that time(again,no flames please). But having seen this new version first as oposed to the original does that mean if I do watch the original will I come on these boards and bash it because it did not stand up to my expectations. I don't know. As far as the go big or go home comment I made, which is just my opinion. It was just meant that the technology has caught up with the movie industry and I feel some movie goers expect as much bang for their buck as possible or we are all getting diluted by the technology?

Save the prison escape I really liked the workprint better than the theatrical version. It was more cohesive. I wish they had kept that ending too I liked it so much better.

Just got back from the movie and all I can say is that I'm disappointed. The first half of the movie was great. I've read this forum already so I knew what to expect. What I didn't expect was how close Zombie came to making a classic. Let me explain.

The beginning of the movie was good. The evolution of Michael Myers was nice to see. Yeah...he overdid the white trash nonsense and Michael snapped way too quick. It's clear that Zombie tried to play the Michael Myers is pure evil card (killing the bully without emotion) and the he's a product of his environment card (white trash house) and frankly...that doesn't work. You need to pick one. Carpenter already did the whole pure evil thing so Zombie should have picked the product of his environment option. He setup all the needed parts but didn't explore any of them. For example:

Simple changes that would have made the 1st half of the movie awesome and explain Michael Myers.

I don't even know what Zombie was thinking with the second half of the movie. It almost seemed like he had an idea for the backstory but then didn't know what to do with the rest of the movie...so why not just copy the original. Then let me make some small changes to make it my own. Bottomline..he screwed it up. He could've done anything with the story so copying the original kill for kill was a cop out and proof that he is a long ways from being a good filmmaker.

All that said...I'm disappointed. Zombie was close. Everything that made Batman Begins the ultimate remake (the great backstory, the awesome character development, the fantastic re-imagining of the story) was missing in Halloween and it's unfortunate...cause Zombie was on the right track.