On the positive note, what I liked in Batman Begins...cool looking ninjas. :lol:

Pearl Harbor is one of the greatest movies ever? And you have issues with a man's wife for liking it? Feel sorry for you bro....

Back to topic, I liked the way they made Arkham Asylum a key part of the story and plot as opposed to just throwing it in for having it like it seems Forever and B&R did. Establishing Arkham this early in the storyline opens up the possibility (though slim) of having one of my favorite graphic novels in Batman history adapted! ;)

BANE!!!!

Can't go wrong with ninjas. Pearl Harbor would have been much better with some kick-ass ninjas.

Sorry, I meant the Arkham Asylum book that had Batman facing his foes on their own turf in the building. Though a proper Bane story would be great!

You're right about the ninjas though. Why Bay didn't have a clan of them jump Affleck and Hartnett when they crash landed on the island is beyond me. :(






;)

So is a sequel set up for Batman to fight pirates?

rotfl I swear to god I can almost remember (almost!) why that made sense at the time. Hell, man! I’d just seen Batman. I was celebrating!

Wow. You guys are hanging out on a blog together? At first I thought you were a student at CAL Arts. Burton went there and there were seething nests of Tim wannabes in both animation schools and the live action one. I didn’t realize the plague had spread to the other coast.
Good call. It was. The best I’ve read of the comics (I can’t say “The Comic” because it has phased through so many styles) was exactly that. That’s why fans of the Miller work are so stoked on this movie. I, for one, didn’t think this would ever be done live action in that (my preferred) style. Amazingly, though made to sell toys and sedate children, Timm and Dini slid the animated series in under the corporate radar. For example: The Gotham Knights episode where Batman succumbs to Cranes “no fear” venom. Those were brilliant (esp. considering the censors), but this was what I, at least, thought would never happen.
I’m really enjoying “The Batman” on WB whenever I can catch it. Good stuff.
Honestly, that was the only part I can't figure. Gordon was relying on a HUD that showed him where to shoot the stanchions of the rails, too. Was that programmed in by Batman ahead of time, or did the tumbler have an incredible AI. (It did map out the roofs of the city at the drop of a dime).
rotfl I think The Joker’s out. That’s a villain rant if I’ve ever heard one.

rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl (wiping a tear) What the fuck can be said about this one?
I gotta say that I am in the minority here on the doomsday plan. I loved the Hell out of it!!! When they showed the EBMU11D (sp?) going operational on that ship: I was like…That is the absolute coolest looking “stolen for nefarious purpose military hardware” I have ever seen on film! The combination of the toxin and this, plus the manipulation and betrayal of a villain with less vision than the major one was exactly “Batman” in almost any style.
I can’t search this Metropolis of a thread for the two posters who elaborated on these points, but they did mention that the beam was focused, that it was a military device intended for use, by people and with failsafes, and against supplies (and possibly pathogen dispersal, probably an area of application denied due to the Geneva Convention) and the action that the train took on the pipeline made it clear that it was focused straight down.
My own theory of water mass is lame compared to the observations that these two posted.

Anyway, goin’ for thirds tomorrow night. (I’ll wait ‘til Monday or Tuesday for Land of the Dead, a friend wants to see Batman, so I’ll miss the zombie riot.)

If so, I hope they are ninja pirates...with Affleck as the ninja pirate captain. And hopefully they'll bring back the bat-sewer-rocket-boat from Batman Returns, which is clearly a modern cinema classic.

Maybe the Tumbler has a tutorial like Halo or something where it tells you how to work the controls. Still, I'm sure it would be more complicated than playing a video game. :)

No shit! I would rent. "Weapons Active"

Cillian Murphy is not british. He is Irish.

While you're setting apart the Scots (officially British, but I'd never say that), Christian Bale is a welshman.

Funny thing about Bale is when he uses his American Accent during interviews (E!, ET, etc).

I've got a Joker for you all: Christopher Walken. period.

I can understand that; Batman's an American icon. Bale is a foreigner, and a choice many were not sure about. If he used his regular somewhere-between-Cardiff-and-Bournemouth accent, he might have run the risk of turning away potential viewers.

Batman Begins was FREAKIN' COOL. :)

I hope it's not being judged against Sin City. That film made a stylistic choice to be a literal comic book brought to life. Batman Begins attempted to bring Batman into our world. As much as I loved Sin City, if every comic book movie did that, it would get old fast. Better to keep Sin City special or just use that style when warranted.

He already used up his one free ticket to be in a Batman movie.

I will direct this nice post to Jackskeleton. I enjoyed your analysis of Hulk compared to Begins. I agree with all of your posts. As I posted previously, I enjoyed Hulk, flaws and all. It's one of those movies that I wish could get a sequel, but won't. But your explanation was spot on.

I know women are not in the majority with these kinds of movies, we are still a large audience. Comic book/action/sci-fi are my favorite genres, heck, I rarely even see a romantic/comedic movie at the theater anymore since they come out on dvd so quickly so why bother. All of my regular, normal female friends love these movies so I certainly cannot relate to the "these movies aren't for women" sentiment that was expressed.

This movie was good, period. I will again say that I liked Burton's films, but I love how well fleshed out the Batman lore was explored in Begins. Burton's Batman merely scratched the surface..you still had to just accept this regular man/vigilante was deciding to take on the world. I'll tell it again, I actually leaned over and wispered to my brother, "I all makes perfect sense now." It was almost as if you could actually see how Batman could come and save your own city.

To me, this movie will be in my top 10 comic movie. Certainly is number 2 movie this year, just under Sin City.

That's unfortunate. I don't know the specifcs of what you're referring to, but who knows...thing can change. I think we can all agree that Walken would be siniter and menacing enough to give Nicholson some competition.

He referring to his role as Max Shrek in "Returns".... and I have to say it would be pretty awkward to bring him in as the Joker. How old is he now.... 60-70??

Is that "Laughing Man" pic from the actual movie or is it a doctored version to look like Joker?

I'm tempted to say it's from the actual movie. I just googled up another picture.
http://www.moviepoopshoot.com/comics...an7/conrad.jpg

Compare to this very early picture of the Joker.
http://www.moviepoopshoot.com/comics...an7/joker2.jpg

I like the dark, sick, and twisted look to the Joker. I really hope the next movie goes in that direction and stays away from the camp and big props.

I was just thinking how the toned down Gotham and overall feel of Nolan's Batman Universe will work well with The Joker. I think that's why so many here were blown away buy the Fan made Joker posted earlier in this thread. In that photo Joker looks, scary, dangerous, and crazy all at the same time and that's why it works well even without the garrish clothes. Of course leave the pale skin, greenish hair, and lunatic smile. In "Return of the Joker" the toned down Joker of the future was very scary.

I saw it again this afternoon - it definitely holds up to repeat viewings. :beer:

Was blown away by this film this weekend, I didn't really go in expecting a whole lot, but definitely came out amazed by how well it turned out. I really liked how the character of Batman developed and how the motives of his enemies (Raz Ogul, I know I am spelling it wrong) were explained. Everything from the cast, the script, the plot, the atmosphere, was perfect.

I think my only gripe, which I apparently share with others, was the close up quick shifting fight scenes. Half the time, especially during his training scenes, I couldn't tell who was winning because the action was just too difficult to follow.