I'm not saying change the director. He did a fine job indeed. But next time, assuming he directs another one, pull the camera back a bit. Slow down the cuts. Or call Spielberg, Lucas, or Jackson, directors who can shoot the shit out of an action scene, and get some tips.

I don't blame Nolan. He just is not a director who is all that experienced with shooting big action sequences. As slop said, his strengths are character and mood.

Yes, But pan out a little. The camera was too damn close.

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Batman Begins is one of the few films able to get away with the "frantic MTV editing" during the fight scenes, because, it's important due to the set-up of the film.

Were there any cameos or dialogue to keep an eye out for on a repeat viewing of this film? Maybe some of the people populating Arkum or characters I would not have been familiar with had I not read a specific graphic novel?

Don't recall this character. Who was s/he?

I should have worded that better. And I like the "no killing the Joker" angle. I hope they keep that for all his enemies as killing them off is stupid. Especially characters like the Joker.

not really a cameo or dialog but something i thought was funny that they left in - in the international trailer. (at 0:26, watch the fella on the right) .
in the movie, this happened right around when bale was having a heart to heart with watanabe.

I liked the intent of the fights but the camera was far too close at times. I don't think Nolan should be fired for this as the fights are clearly not the focus in this film (and I doubt they will be in the sequels) but certainly needs to pull the camera back a few feet. When Batman first fights Falcone's goons, the close camera and quick cutting were perfect and effective. When he fought Ra's (both times) it also made perfect sense because because Ra's is a dirty fighter and would basically fling himself at Wayne. But, still, the camera could/should be pulled back just a bit next time around. We don't need static shots or any super-stylized choreography but I'd preffer more Bourne Identity and less Bourne Supremacy when it comes to fights.

$15,068,368

- / -

3,718 / $4,053

$15,068,368 / 1
16 1

$9,083,178

-39.7% / -

3,718 / $2,443

$24,151,546 / 2
17 1 (estimate)

$15,530,000

71% / -

3,858 / $4,025

$39,682,000 / 3


Exceeding it's take on wednesday by a bit, and sustaining the strength, 15.3 million on Friday.

39.6 million from three days total, by Sunday, it should be about 60 million. As a balance with decent reviews and good start up box office, Batman is indeed back, and people are enjoying it.

While the rest of you fight over the imperfections, Begins got it more right then wrong, and we should be proud of it.


Christian Bale and Liam Neilson were awesome in this film!!

Killing Joke angle wont work. Would seem pretty redundent in story since it's Joker with the water supply yet again.

You mean Dolph Lundgren? :)

The thing about fanatic fanboys is that they have their own specific idea of how a comic book hero should be done, and any deviation from that (or any deviation that changes even 0.00001% of what's written in the comic book) invalidates the entire piece completely. That's why they're not filmmakers.

I loved it and was amazed at the cast they put together. Even Katie Holmes was good in it (suprisingly). Also, enjoyed the first hour and almost forgot I was watching a Batman movie. That's talent.

The second time I saw this I really loved the fight scenes.

Instead of empowing the veiwer (myself in this case), it put me in a state of trying to catch up. A state of getting my ass kicked! By the time I realized that one guy got judoed down onto the stairs, the next guy had already been elbowed in the ear.

It was scary to think of ever going up against anyone that good. That is if getting knocked on your ass hard frightens you (it does me).

I like that we are supposed to be impressed and awed rather than identify.

I think everyone would agree that this is the best Batman file to date, we're just being critical on a few things....:D

I loved it, for all of the reasons mentioned. Although I'm not quite ready to dismiss the Burton films, this was a superior and altogether different version, for which I'm happy. The performances were uniformly excellent, particuarly Christian Bale and Gary Oldman. I'm already looking forward to part 2, and wondering what the title will be, as Batman Returns is already taken.

I disagree. When I left Burton's batman, I couldn't get it out of my head. After this one, i didn't have much to say. I still really liked it, don't get me wrong but...it wasn't as "fun" as I wanted it to be.

Of course it did! That's why I called it a very good film. I loved it. But I do think Burton's original does a few things better, though I think Begins is a better film. Even though I love Begins, I like the original Batman a lot too, and as mookyman said, I'm not going to dismiss Burton's.

After seeing Batman Begins as far as I'm concerned...The Previous films, including the 1st two which are considered the best of the lot, are all <b>"PRE-CRISIS"</b> and no longer apply. :lol:;)

Barbara Gordon aka Batgirl has very quick cameo. Her name is even listed as Barbara Gordon in the credits.

But you see, and this is not to criticize you in any way, that's where many of us "Fanboys" feel the movie scores big time. Batman was never meant to be "Fun" in that sense. Everyone's got that damn 1960's Batman and the silly parts of the Burton movies stuck in their heads. Back in '89 I saw an interview with Batman's creator Bob Kane and he said he always wanted Batman to be "dark and Brooding" and that's how he did him. "Begins" has brought Bats back to the Dark, serious, and brutal Batman that's currently in the comics. Batman is an ASSHOLE. He's that way to other heroes and he's definately one to villians.

Frankly, I even hate it when Bats smiles. :lol:

You right. It's a problem. :lol: But you have to remember Batfans have been dealing with fucked up deviations for a loooong time. So when they finally come this close to getting it perfect and then some come out to nitpick MINOR SHIT it's like "shut up and be happy they finally got right as much as they did this time around". :p

Yeah, but it sort of fucks with the whole time line (yeah, like comics are good at that).

For batgirl to ever appear in the film Batman will be pushing into his 50's.

Batman Continues

Sounds like another fanbase I know of.

I'm just hoping WB doesn't freak out and think Nolan or the film itself is to blame for the disappointing numbers so far.

Batman Does it Again.