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Old 05-22-06 | 02:11 AM
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The new trailer sucks
The bullet to the eye is lame
The dialogue still sucks "how could you leave us" gag
Bosworth will make a horrible Lois
The kid is stupid

I will not be seeing this movie.

Long live Smallville

Old 05-22-06 | 03:09 AM
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Originally Posted by animalmystic
The new trailer sucks
The bullet to the eye is lame
The dialogue still sucks "how could you leave us" gag
Bosworth will make a horrible Lois
The kid is stupid

I will not be seeing this movie.

Nice to know you're giving the movie a chance.
Old 05-22-06 | 04:37 AM
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"Long Live Smallville"
Old 05-22-06 | 07:08 AM
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more like long live Smallville Lex......
Old 05-22-06 | 07:28 AM
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The people who whine about Superman Returns being an incongruous sequel to Superman I/II are the same lamebrains ...
Superboy, there's no need for namecalling. Please try to make your point without insulting other members.
Old 05-22-06 | 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by DVD King
The bullet to the eye shot is ridicolous, I thought we were past the matrix slow-mo crap by now
I've never been crazy about bullet time, but I don't mind it as much when its used for its original purpose: to show something that's supossed to be to fast for the human eye to see.
Old 05-22-06 | 08:18 AM
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Well, I thought it was a good trailer. I'm not sold on Routh, and probably won't be until I see the film and he proves me wrong. But I will definitely see this film and hope he does prove me wrong.

more like long live Smallville Lex......
More like long live Smallville Lex and Clark. Other than Reeve, Welling has really taken a hold of that role, and made it his own. He's improved by leaps and bounds over the last 5 seasons.
Old 05-22-06 | 08:24 AM
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true. routh hasnt sold me yet on being superman but the last trailer has finally got me into seeing this movie....

routh needs some more bulk in muscle....
Old 05-22-06 | 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by animalmystic
Long live Smallville
Smallville is fun stuff, but they need to wrap it up pretty soon. They've brought way to much of the traditional Superman lore into the Smallville setting (Lois and Zod for instance).

Most of the episodes are pretty poorly written, but the acting is top notch (especially Welling and Rosenbaum). This may sound like sacrilege to some, but I think they are the best Clark and Lex respectively ever committed to any screen. I still have hope that they will somehow get the two of them on the big screen...but not much hope.

If they ever did, Tom Welling would make this new kid look like a pantywaist...and I'll take my Lex more contemplative and a bit less maniacal, thanks.
Old 05-22-06 | 08:36 AM
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At the next DVDTalk meet, I'm bringing a big box of tissues for all the Smallville fans who are still crying because Tom Weiling didn't get cast.
Old 05-22-06 | 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Groucho
At the next DVDTalk meet, I'm bringing a big box of tissues for all the Smallville fans who are still crying because Tom Weiling didn't get cast.
I miss the funny Groucho.

I can't speak for others here, but I for one am not crying about it. I'm actually looking forward to the movie. But I do think a movie build around the Smallville cast could have been better.
Old 05-22-06 | 10:44 AM
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I've shown the international trailer to about 5 co-workers today, and the bullet-in-the-eye shot seals the deal for them.
Old 05-22-06 | 12:01 PM
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Most expensive movie ever?

http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2...230039,00.html

Superman costs soar
By DEREK ROBINS
Sun Online
THE new Superman movie looks set to become the most expensive film of all time with estimates that its budget has risen to nearly $300m.

Costs for Superman Returns starring Brandon Routh as the Man of Steel and Kevin Spacey as baddie Lex Luthor have risen so much because of expensive special effects and re-shoots, say experts.

David Poland, editor of Movie City News, said: “From what I gather it will be the most expensive film ever.

“There’s no way it could cost less than $250m based on what they green lit. It was $200m with first director McG before Bryan Singer took over.

“When Bryan took over they had to re-shoot. I figure it’s anywhere between $290m and $300m at this time.”

Makers Warner Bros claim that the film cost much less at $204m.

Other movie industry insiders have put the film’s costs at between $250m and $261m – making it much more expensive than the $207m spent on the King Kong re-make and the $200m spent on Titanic and Spider-Man 2.

The most expensive scene in Superman Returns which opens in the States on June 30 is thought to be one in which the superhero stops a burning plane from crashing.
Old 05-22-06 | 12:04 PM
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ok so in other words, this movie needs to be better then Spiderman...... i dont see that happening but i am pulling for it...
Old 05-22-06 | 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by raven56706
ok so in other words, this movie needs to be better then Spiderman...... i dont see that happening but i am pulling for it...
I can see it being better than Spider-Man 1. Part 2 though...that's a tall order.
Old 05-22-06 | 12:47 PM
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I'm not surprised, since this has been a delayed, drawn out production. It seems Warners is going to spend whatever it takes to revive this franchise. My guess is they're willing to take a loss on this one if that means a few more profitable sequels down the road. And with dvd sales and rentals, I'm sure they'll make some profit on this. Even if it's minimal.

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Old 05-22-06 | 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by DVD King
The bullet to the eye shot is ridicolous, I thought we were past the matrix slow-mo crap by now
I thought it was great... by no means is it Matrix-ish. It's meant to show the impact of the bullet on Clark's eye and that he's pretty much impervious, as witnessed by the deformity of the bullet and Clark not flinching at all. It's something we haven't really seen before as far as Superman is concerned. Up until now, IIRC, it's just been bullets bouncing off of him.
Old 05-22-06 | 01:28 PM
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Was it his eyes, or those off the shelf Acuvue Colors contacts? $300M could have bought digitally colored eyes.
Old 05-22-06 | 04:03 PM
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I thought it was great... by no means is it Matrix-ish. It's meant to show the impact of the bullet on Clark's eye and that he's pretty much impervious, as witnessed by the deformity of the bullet and Clark not flinching at all. It's something we haven't really seen before as far as Superman is concerned. Up until now, IIRC, it's just been bullets bouncing off of him.
Wasn't there a comedian or TV or movie quote about Superman's eye? He said something like "I don't care how strong Superman is, shoot him in the squishy stuff in his eye and he'll have to fall" or something. Was wondering if Singer & Co knew that when they did it. Love it, can't wait to see the movie.
Old 05-22-06 | 05:35 PM
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Most of the episodes are pretty poorly written, but the acting is top notch (especially Welling and Rosenbaum).
Note the date, this is the first time "top notch acting" and Tom Welling have ever been used in the same sentence. Tom Welling is a real life Derek Zoolander..he has one look.
Old 05-22-06 | 06:21 PM
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I think he is quite good now.
Old 05-22-06 | 07:42 PM
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Actually I think it's no different than anything we've seen before, it's been show time and again that he's impervious to everything but kryptonite. Him having a bullet bounce off his eye from point blank range doesn't impress me it just makes me realize how after all this time the people working on superman just want to keep doing things the same way and telling the same story-- I think by now superman is some kind of american mythology and doesn't need to follow every aspect of the comic books, how about making him taking damage and being more vulnerable for a start?
He's Superman, and we've seen him get "beat up" plenty over the course of the first 4 movies and even lost his powers completely. How much more vulnerable were you expecting?
Old 05-22-06 | 07:49 PM
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Why not have him develop a drug addiction? Then we can see him try to break the habit.

It's been 16 LONG years since the big Man of Steel has been on the big screen. I don't think showing off how much of a bad ass he really is, is going to upset many people.
Old 05-22-06 | 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by DVD King
Actually I think it's no different than anything we've seen before, it's been show time and again that he's impervious to everything but kryptonite. Him having a bullet bounce off his eye from point blank range doesn't impress me it just makes me realize how after all this time the people working on superman just want to keep doing things the same way and telling the same story-- I think by now superman is some kind of american mythology and doesn't need to follow every aspect of the comic books, how about making him taking damage and being more vulnerable for a start?
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Old 05-22-06 | 09:02 PM
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He's Superman, and we've seen him get "beat up" plenty over the course of the first 4 movies and even lost his powers completely. How much more vulnerable were you expecting?
That's one thing that always bothered me about the Superman cartoon. He would always get beat up way too easily, and all the time. There's vunerable, and there's inept, which is something Superman should never be.

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