Watchmen (D: Snyder)
#252
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Originally Posted by Patman
Have you considered reading the Watchmen graphic novel before seeing the film next year?
I'm torn right now. I haven't read it in years, and have been planning to re-read it for awhile now. But I'm thinking that perhaps I'll just wait for the movie. Reading it again will cement it's greatness in my mind, and set my expectations very high for the film. I can't imagine the film even coming close to the quality of the book, so maybe by not re-reading it until after the movie I'll keep the bar a bit lower.
Am I making any sense?
#253
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Originally Posted by Patman
Have you considered reading the Watchmen graphic novel before seeing the film next year?
So, I'm on the fence as to what I'll do.
#254
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Originally Posted by TomOpus
So, I'm on the fence as to what I'll do.
It's not an easy read, not a book that you can just expect to flip thru and "get it". There is a lot of text, and much detail in the pictures. So to fully appreciate it takes more time than most "comic books".
But yeah, reading it before hand will just make the movie seem sucky.
I hate to sound pessimistic, but I just can't imagine the movie being up to par. They always mess up Alan Moore books something awful.
#255
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Originally Posted by bdshort
Just watched the "motion comic" and was pretty impressed. There was actually more animation that I expected. Looking forward to the next chapter, though I may just read my copy of Watchmen by then. I'll agree with the complaints on Amazon though, maybe they could get a female to read the female roles though... I realize it's probably too late for that, but it seemed like the Silk Spectre was a drag queen.
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Originally Posted by Trevor
I hate to sound pessimistic, but I just can't imagine the movie being up to par. They always mess up Alan Moore books something awful.
I thought V for Vendetta was excellent, and you can smell "The Killing Joke" on just about every frame of "The Dark Knight"....
-Doc
#257
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Am I the only one not terribly excited for this?
Not that I think it'll be bad - it looks faithful as hell (except for the Ozymandias casting) - but it seems so faithful to the comic, that it's hard to drum up enough interest to get excited.
I mean, I know the book like the back of my hand - what can I glean from a movie version that will have sections cut out? It's not like other superhero adaptions where they just incorporate elements from their stories to for an all new story. This will be Watchmen, every step of the way. And unlike novel adaptations, where you might look forward to see the world you created visually in your head realized on the big scree, the graphic novel already has everything visualized and story-boarded for you. The movie will offer nothing beyond real-life actors and movement. That's it.
I'll see it, and probably like it, but I don't understand the excitement for something that's already out there in a far more appropriate medium.
Not that I think it'll be bad - it looks faithful as hell (except for the Ozymandias casting) - but it seems so faithful to the comic, that it's hard to drum up enough interest to get excited.
I mean, I know the book like the back of my hand - what can I glean from a movie version that will have sections cut out? It's not like other superhero adaptions where they just incorporate elements from their stories to for an all new story. This will be Watchmen, every step of the way. And unlike novel adaptations, where you might look forward to see the world you created visually in your head realized on the big scree, the graphic novel already has everything visualized and story-boarded for you. The movie will offer nothing beyond real-life actors and movement. That's it.
I'll see it, and probably like it, but I don't understand the excitement for something that's already out there in a far more appropriate medium.
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Originally Posted by Doc MacGyver
...and you can smell "The Killing Joke" on just about every frame of "The Dark Knight"
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From: Philadelphia
Originally Posted by slop101
No. You couldn't be more wrong if you name was DocMacWrongstein.
Really?
Spoiler:
-Doc
#261
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Originally Posted by Doc MacGyver
Really? I guess I was reading a different "Killing Joke"....
#262
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Originally Posted by superdeluxe
smashing pumpkins ftw.
#263
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Originally Posted by Trevor
Just as long as you read it someday.
It's not an easy read, not a book that you can just expect to flip thru and "get it". There is a lot of text, and much detail in the pictures. So to fully appreciate it takes more time than most "comic books".
It's not an easy read, not a book that you can just expect to flip thru and "get it". There is a lot of text, and much detail in the pictures. So to fully appreciate it takes more time than most "comic books".
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Originally Posted by slop101
What you're talking about is one character's motivation inspired by that book (not to mention this sort of thing occurred in previous books), which is a hell of a lot different than "smelling it in every frame" - which speaks to tone and execution. And in that regard, Dark Knight couldn't be any further from Killing Joke.
Then I should have added, "With regard to the Joker." And in that, I concede. I still submit that the Joker's motivation (and what are we if not beings defined by our motivations and thus actions) is HEAVILY inspired by and STINKS of The Killing Joke (Christopher Nolan having said as much seems to back me up).
-Doc
#267
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Originally Posted by TomOpus
If I remember correctly, Zack said at the panel that the song does not appear in the movie.
I heard that..but still cool that its in the trailer (And it looks like it helped skyrocket song sales)
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Originally Posted by TomOpus
If I remember correctly, Zack said at the panel that the song does not appear in the movie.
#269
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Originally Posted by chris_sc77
That kinda sucks. Hopefully it will at least make the end credits.
#270
i guess i'll be the one who hated the song in the trAILer.
Don't know what "ftw" means but...
i just can't stand droning, emo, whiny stuff.
Don't know what "ftw" means but...
i just can't stand droning, emo, whiny stuff.
#272
whatever.
i have my opinion you have yours.
does me not liking the song insult you?
i have my opinion you have yours.
does me not liking the song insult you?
#273
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Originally Posted by whotony
i guess i'll be the one who hated the song in the trAILer.
Don't know what "ftw" means but...
i just can't stand droning, emo, whiny stuff.
Don't know what "ftw" means but...
i just can't stand droning, emo, whiny stuff.
You can hate it all you want, but thats not emo.
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Originally Posted by slop101
What you're talking about is one character's motivation inspired by that book (not to mention this sort of thing occurred in previous books), which is a hell of a lot different than "smelling it in every frame" - which speaks to tone and execution. And in that regard, Dark Knight couldn't be any further from Killing Joke.
I'm not looking forward to this movie either. I might see it just to see what's done with it... but translating this movie to screen is simply a bad idea. I can see it now: the overemphasis on the political climate in order to make it more appropriate for the times, little to no backstory behind each character, as if we're supposed to be instantly familiar with them, and horrific pacing, seeing as how nearly half of the story is told in flashback.
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Originally Posted by Superboy
I'm not looking forward to this movie either. I might see it just to see what's done with it... but translating this movie to screen is simply a bad idea. I can see it now: the overemphasis on the political climate in order to make it more appropriate for the times, little to no backstory behind each character, as if we're supposed to be instantly familiar with them, and horrific pacing, seeing as how nearly half of the story is told in flashback.





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