I'm usually one who doesn't think the rating matters, but this the theme of Aliens and Predator lends itself for an R rating. We're not talking a Spiderman or I-Robot here. I just seems there will be lots missing from the movie.

One of the worst things to happen to the film industry, IMO, was the PG-13 rating. Basically if you are going to make a mainstream movie (particularly action or sci-fi) the studios try to contract for a PG-13 so that they can capture the teeny bopper dollars. PG-13 is simply a way of hedging the bets.

I do agree that to respect its predecessors, this film should not only have gone after an R, but gone after the NC-17 and bartered down to an R (and I don't say that very often).

However, fruedguy has a point, violence and gore has a lesser impact on the MPAA if it is not human, and the humans are far outnumbered here, so there may be a little hope. I guess we'll have to wait a few more weeks . . .

I don't care about ratings, and it's realistic violence that is the main factor in the rating. Since these are sci-fi violence then it may still be very gory but still be able to fit in as pg-13. Reserve your hate till after you see it.

No one is saying they hate it already. It's just not a good sign. This may be the biggest kick-ass movie I've ever seen.....but my expectations have been lowered. However, I do have hopes that it is a great movie so it reinvigorates both licenses instead of driving that last nail into their respective cinematic coffins.

I'm sure I'm not the only one that was turned off after I heard that King Arthur was being trimmed for a PG-13. As for the gore, there won't be any if it's PG-13 unless it's creature on creature like I mentioned above. Graphic violence is expected from a movie derived from these two genre staples. It just seems to me that the "bite" would be taken away from the ferocity of the aliens/predators if it doesn't go for at least a "soft R".

I don't mean this in a smart-ass way but can anyone name a PG-13 flick with even mild amounts of gore?


P.S. Please do not think that I equate good cinema with violence and gore. If AvP works without graphic violence, kudos to Anderson and I will more than happily buy the DVD.

PG-13 and the words Alien or Predator should never be used in the same sentence....ever!!!!!


What this means for me:

No human impalement
No removal of any human skin
No removal of human spines
No human beheadings
No severing of any human body parts (via laser blast)
No human cauterized injuries (via laser blast)
No visible human brains (via laser blast)
No graphic, human chest burster scene


Basically, no fun....But I'm still going to see it, regardless.

Considering that many times a film will make more on home video than during its theatrical run, is it possible that the studios purposely reduce the theatrical rating in order to generate more interest in the inevitable "Director's" or "Unrated" DVD release?

There can be all types of Alien on Predator violence, because they aren't human. Who cares? The humans in the movie are an excuse to have the damn movie anyway. All the cool shit is going to be the two "bugs" going at it.

Although I would have liked to see an R movie.

This just lets them release theatrical and unrated DVDs. This movie will be a trailer for the unrated DVD.

My feelings exactly, except I won't support it in the theater and hope for an unrated DVD. It's a shame we have to aim all movies at the kiddies to try to pull in a bigger profit. Bring in the family for a fun night at the movies with perhaps two of the most bloodily violent creatures in movie history, toned down for your six year old to enjoy!

My thing is who cares what the movie is rated. I don't care if it's rated G as long as it's a good movie.

You're missing the point. The rating is a big deal for this movie, considering the characters and why they're popular in the first place. Cutting people in half, stringing skinned bodies from the ceiling, impalement, aliens bursting through chests, tearing people apart...all things that make the Predator and Alien movies worth watching (lets face it, no one watched these movies for their immaculately crafted Oscar robbed scripts)...and all things that we probably won't see in this flick.

[devil's advocate] If FOX wants to make a profit from AvP, a PG-13 is a no-brainer.[/devils advocate]

Yeah I'm a little dissapointed, but really I just hope the movie is good. No doubt there'll be an unrated DVD as well. Personally while I love my fair share of monster mayhem, I really don't need to see people being skinned, beheaded, etc.. besides, this way I might take my dad to see it (if reviews are decent)

I prefer more alien/aliens violence rather than alien3 violence, but that's just me.

Bingo! Oh, you forgot Teri Weigel's energetic penthouse scene in Predator 2

I'm sorry but the without the gore and violence, what is left to hope for? I know Paul Anderson's "style," and I don't really like it. His writing isn't very good. So we have two awesome creatures duking it out but no skinning, no chest cursting, no blowing off limbs.

Seriously...a rating doesn't make a movie. But imagine Alien cut to pg-13. Yeah, you'd have to cut out the chest bursting scene. So much more.

Yeah pg-13 Alien vs. Predator. This is a horror/action violent franchise. How in hells name do you make it pg-13 without making a movie nothing like its predecessors?

I wrote this film off a while ago, almost as soon as I started to finally read confirmed information on the project. I don't see too much of a chance that this will be a good film, R rating or not.

Pretty likely this will be the case.

I'll second that after seeing the trailer. It looks almost like a straight-to-video movie.

Off course, I'll reserve final judgment until I see the final, but I'm not too hopeful of it living up to my expectations.

Got to love the internet. Filled with E-tough guys, furries, and people who will bash a film simply because of a rating.

Well I wrote of Dawn of the dead before I ever gave it a chance and I loved it. after that I've given anything a chance. Now Predator is something near and dear to me. As a kid I wore out 2 tapes of predator watching it constantly. I loved Predator and I loved alines. When you mix the two it's complete happy land for me. Though I was very much in doubt about it all when the first signs of this film came about and then you know what, I just let myself enjoy what this is.

Now if you are going to nit pick about the rating before you ever see it then you will walk into it hating it. If you want to do that fine, be my guest, but don't start trying to make logical faults of a film you haven't seen based on what you believe will not be in the film.

OMG!!!11111 THEY WONT HAVE A PREDATOR RIP OUT SOME1'S SKULL!!11111 WHAT EVAR WILL U DO?????!!?!?!?!1111

from the looks of things it doesn't seem like the predators are hunting the humans regardless. So no skull ripping is needed from them. Remember, they are using them as bait for the aliens. their big prize in the film is killing alines.

So Sci Fi Creature vs Sci Fi Other creature means that it will be unrealistic violence. It can see be pretty gory, but since it's two objects that do not represent reality, then perhaps, just perhaps they can get away with a little more on that rating.

I understand your point, Jack...but I ask you this: Why not demand the best from the studios? Why settle for a cheapening of a brand just to make more money? The Alien and the Predator series were forged on blood and guts. Jason X wasn't a good movie, but it was a hell of a lot more entertaining because of the gore. If they bumped Jason X down to a PG-13, and had Jason just been running amok knocking people unconciouswith a two-by-four, it would've been a shittier movie without question.

Aliens are scary as shit because they will explode out of your chest.

The Predator is badass because he'll skin your ass faster than you can say "Sexual-Ty-ran-o-saurus!"

I don't want to see these guys have a PG-13 pillowfight. I wanna see the only thing that I really loved about the original films as a kid. Being scared shitless and endless gore.

I figured this would happen after seeing "this film is not yet rated" in all the commercials.

That can only mean they are making cuts for a PG-13 and haven't gotten it yet.

This will be on video before you know it.

Still...nothing really beats a really good old skull or spine rip.

Hell..... imagine if the original Predator was rated PG-13
You definitely would not have seen "exploding chest" (via laser blast) or Carl's Weather's last stand.

Those scenes (plus a few others), the visual effects and finally Stan Winston's brilliant creature effects truly made the film a classic in the Sciene Fiction realm.

Whoa, ease up there, Jack. If people want to hate it already, let them. I simply pointed out the fact that I fear they have taken the edge off of these properties by the rating. In some cases, the rating DOES make the movie. The R-rated Pearl Harbor was more realistic and a lot of people agree it was a better edit.

I haven't written it off yet, some have. If they do and it's a great movie, they lose. Most of the responses here so far have been like me, lowered expectations....but not hate.

pg13?

one less genre film to see this year.