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Abob Teff 06-23-04 06:38 PM


Originally posted by NEUMANN
I love the alien-predator universe,own all the movies,read all the books and played all the computer games,heck i would go see this if it was aliens and predators sitting around playing cards lol
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Abob Teff 06-23-04 06:43 PM


Originally posted by RocShemp
This movie is pre-Alien, like jaeufraser states, and is meant to tell how the Weyland Corp. first learns of the bug. I think the Predators may get their asses kicked (though not easily) in this film since the Weyland Corp. was interested in the "bugs" and not the Predator technology. Then again, maybe they were after both and Ripley only learned of one of the company's endeavors.
Not so fast . . . in Predator 2 "they" had been tracking and trying to capture a Predator. Did they ever define who "they" were? (Sorry I forget.)

And the Alien movies happen way into the future (as opposed to the Predator movies), so it is possible that something happened (Predators lost and were wiped out, Predators said "Eh, f#@! the humans" and just left, Predators developed a predisposition to intergalactic whoring instead, etc.)

Giantrobo 07-09-04 05:43 AM

A NEW International trailer.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2...311972,00.html

SpaceBoy 07-09-04 08:54 AM

Looks pretty cool, I still don't understand why aliens are fighting the predators, but I remember the old atari jaguar game. Hopefully this is better then that.

scott shelton 07-09-04 11:38 AM

So far, and this could change in the next month, but the press screenings for this film are set for the night before release - which is not a good sign.

Just a thought...

freudguy 07-23-04 10:04 AM

Aliens vs. Predator rated PG-13
 
I saw a tidbit on www.darkhorizons.com that said AvP now officially has a rating of PG-13. I haven't seen it mentioned anywhere else (including the official site) so take it with a grain of salt.

If this is true, how good could it be? It makes you wonder if this is the equivalent of a Robocop 3 where the predecessors were pretty hardcore in their themes & violence while the PG-13 version totally stripped away what made the original a hit. One thing that helped the Alien & Predator franchises become classics was the carnage created by the titular creatures. I was kinda looking forward to this after the last trailer (minus the rock music). This puts a damper on it, though.

Seantn 07-23-04 10:33 AM

Who cares about the rating. These days the MPAA is more and more lenient. Dawn of the Dead 2004 was extremely violent and bloody, and that wouldn't have flown a few years ago. They had so many 'headshots' and 'exit wounds' with zombies being shot in the head.... Tom Savini stated in his commentary track for Night of the Living Dead 1990 that his film was given an X rating by the MPAA because they had 2-3 instances of a zombie being shot in the head and you could see blood squirt out the back. They had to cut that. Dawn '04 is chock full of blood spraying out of heads, limbs being cut off, chainsaw to the chest of a non-zombie!, and tons of other stuff....

Tons of violence doesn't mean it's a good movie...

I think a PG-13 film can have plenty of violence. If 'Alien' made a few trims here and there, it could've nabbed a PG-13 in today's film ratings.

Groucho 07-23-04 10:35 AM

Has Paul Anderson ever made a movie that wasn't rated R?

Seantn 07-23-04 10:36 AM

Mortal Kombat.

He had so much trouble with the ratings board on Event Horizon, that he is actually much more aware of the violence while he is filming now, as he mentions on the commentary of Resident Evil. Apparently Even Horizon had so much violence that it was just insane.

For instance.... A corpse is found on the ship, with a human sized spike...SHOVED UP IT'S ASS and shooting out of the person's mouth. That would hurt! And it was extremely violent. It got cut , along with a ton of other stuff.

Zodiac_Speaking 07-23-04 10:55 AM

You can't have an Alien or Predator film that's respects both franchises and be PG-13.

mikewendt 07-23-04 10:57 AM

PG-13?!?! That's bullshit... I'll definatly pass on that.

Matthew Chmiel 07-23-04 10:57 AM

Well we all do know that Paul Anderson is a no-talented hack. ;)

And nothing is up at the MPAA website yet about the rating...

scott shelton 07-23-04 10:58 AM

It's official. The film is PG-13.

fumanstan 07-23-04 11:04 AM

:(

PixyJunket 07-23-04 11:04 AM

:lol:

Seantn 07-23-04 11:07 AM

I believe the info...but where is this "It's official" talk coming from?

And Dark Horizon's site is not an 'official' source of anything...

scott shelton 07-23-04 11:11 AM

I just got the screening date from Fox publicity (which is the night before opening, ALWAYS a good sign :(), and there's a big fat PG-13 next to the title.

Seantn 07-23-04 11:14 AM

Ah...yep, sounds pretty official to me! Let us know how the screening is.

Does it say anything such as "Rated PG-13 for....Alien Lesbianism, etc...." or just "PG-13"

freudguy 07-23-04 11:33 AM

I agree that excessive violence does not make a movie a good one but how in the hell can they show a chestburster doing it's thing without an R-rating? Like I said, it was the way these creatures killed that helped make them original and popular. Predators either blow a hole through you with a shoulder cannon or cut you up with a variety of instruments and usually leave you hanging like a gutted deer. Try cutting the Predator movies down for a lesser rating and see if they are as effective.

The MPAA may be a little more lenient than it was a couple years ago but it is in no way close to how liberal they were in the 80's.

Granted, most of the violence probably comes from the two alien species going at it so maybe it earned PG-13 status due to a lot of green blood being spilled instead of the red variety. Plus, I bet there are a lot of cut-aways just as the humans bite it that saves it from the R-rating.

Gyno Rhino 07-23-04 11:33 AM

Sounds like a movie begging for an unrated crazy cut on DVD.

Then again, it may suck either way. We'll see.

Morf 07-23-04 11:39 AM

Call me crazy, but I'll reserve judgement on the film until I actually see it!

kneijst1 07-23-04 11:45 AM

well, for instance, take watching either of the Predator films on cable tv(ignoring the commericals and it being full frame for a second). Lots of the gore is obviously cut out, or cut away scenes which are just as bad. A recent example is the new King Arthur movie. That film was begging to be more violent(and supposedly the directors cut is), and it really hurt the movie but doing cutaway shots, not showing swords actually hit people or blood coming out, etc. etc. Film ratings do matter, and when films get trimmed down just to obtain a lower rating, it may semi-help the box office, but it definitly hurts the actual film more times than not.

NitroJMS 07-23-04 11:45 AM


Originally posted by freudguy
Granted, most of the violence probably comes from the two alien species going at it so maybe it earned PG-13 status due to a lot of green blood being spilled instead of the red variety. Plus, I bet there are a lot of cut-aways just as the humans bite it that saves it from the R-rating.
Ah, the Star Trek VI "rule." You can show buckets of blood, as long as it isn't red or human.

mmconhea 07-23-04 11:46 AM


Originally posted by Morf
Call me crazy, but I'll reserve judgement on the film until I actually see it!
Not only are you crazy, but you obviously don't belong on an internet forum.

rennervision 07-23-04 12:41 PM

I remember seeing the PG-13 Willard remake on DVD. Although I liked it, when I saw the unrated deleted scenes I realized how much better the movie could have been. The sanitizing of the violence and the language really removed a lot of the impact from the original scenes. So I would say this info about AVP does not bode well.


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