Perhaps the switch to b&w is to show how Uma's character had to switch something off to be able to go out and maim and kill a large group of people she didn't have a problem with. She went into her own little b&w world to get the job done.

just saw this regarding Kill Bill... not having seen the film it is difficult to comment, but I certainly agree with the reviewers comments about Tarintino's previous works (I also was very offended by the racist undertones of Resovoir Dogs and understand I am in a very small minority that feels that way)..

http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=16964

That guy is the biggest Ivy Leage racist of all time. He sees everything as an issue of race. Yet if you asked him he'd claim he's not a racist. Whatever dude.

Worst of all he doesn't understand the movie (despite his $10 words). The story is told out of order with the second victim (Vivica Fox) comming first. Hence the murder of the black character is seen first even though it happens second. Therefore it is a cliche (the black character is always killed off first). And since everything in Kill Bill is a cliche it works. It's a joke...get it? Oh wait I forgot you turned in your sense of humor when you got your ACLU card. Movies like this aren't made for humorless intellectuals.

• Quoth cinemaman •<HR SIZE=1>just saw this regarding Kill Bill... not having seen the film it is difficult to comment, but I certainly agree with the reviewers comments about Tarintino's previous works (I also was very offended by the racist undertones of Resovoir Dogs and understand I am in a very small minority that feels that way)..

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I mean absolutely no disrespect to you personally for posting that article, but that's one of the most narrow-minded, and dare I say racist, things I've read in quite a while. It's ironic that the author's name is "White" considering how obsessed he is with painting the most innocent situation as an example of racism. Freedom with the thesaurus doesn't make for intelligent commentary.

I'd address each of his baseless points individually, but it would be pointless as the author has no grasp of these films beyond the superficial, but I found this particularly silly:
Single-minded? Jules was the most introspective and thoughtful character in the film. Yeah, he killed people without remorse ... he was a freakin' hitman! What do you want? Where's Mr. White (pun intended) to stick up for Vincent Vega, who in many ways is a rung lower than Jules? Whatever.

I don't like painting with such broad strokes, but this article reads like a racist trying to justify his hate through the guise of large words.

das

So, Tarantino is deliberately using Vivica A. Fox to lure black viewers to his movie only to kill the black character to satisfy the white racist?

And I guess O-Ren Ishii's death is anti-Asian? And so will the deaths of Budd, Elle Driver and Bill be anti-white? Didn't think so.

I am a person of color and to me the real meaning of "color blind" is to be truly "blind" to each other's skin color.

In Lone Wolf & Cub:Babycart to Hades Wouldn't be surprised if Tarantino got the inspiration from that scene.

I know I'm joining this discussion late but I just wanted to add my 2 cents.

Now when I first heard about this movie I had mixed feelings. I'm a huge Tarantino fan but also a HUGE Hong Kong movie fan (as well as Japanese). So I expected this to be a decent attempt at capturing the HK style by verified fanboy QT. What I got was so much more. The merging of Quentin's trademark style (which is not just defined by his mixing up of sequence) with a highly stylized kung-fu homage blew me away.

Best Movie of the Year.

Yeah you heard me.

Okay.. I didn't want to be the first to respond to that article.. but Pants, das, and jar covered everything I could've said and more.

Buuut.. the Vivica's character does bring up a question I thought of.. it appears that she quit "the life", but how come she wasn't hunted down and killed? I'm hoping this is one of the things explained in vol. 2.

Good point. And I hope that there was a reason why Vernita's "DiVA title" wasn't presented in VOL I.

Regarding the bleeping of the name I thought at the time they were saying bitch and just bleeping it as a joke because the child was present. It could also go back to the Clint Eastwood westerns where no one knows the name of the character Eastwood plays. Wouldn't surprise me if that unknown name was inspired from a Asian movie anyway as A Fistful Of Dollars was based on Yojimbo.

His name was Sanjuro. Of course, we never learn his surname since in each of the movies he makes one up by looking at something that happens to be nearby.

I was thinking the same thing. Perhaps she wasn't entirely out of the business yet and could be called back at any given point. Perhaps to do whatever she wanted for the time being, just like O-Ren is the head of an orginization. eh. who knows

I was wondering about this too, but came up with the same possible explanation as Jack (especially seeing O-ren's situation). Either that, or the as yet unseen circumstances of Uma's character leaving Bill might have led to the extreme manner in which the Bride and the wedding party were taken care of.

But it was. It's Copperhead, as I recall. The Bride says it at one point and you can see it written in her list.

Yep. There's even a discussion about it..."I should have been Black Mamba!"

No. What I was referring to was the giant character title that Elle and O-Ren recieved. Example:

ELLE DRIVER
Member of
The DEADLY VIPER ASSASSINATION SQUAD
codename:
"CALIFORNIA MOUNTAIN SNAKE"

I expected to see all the DiVA squad to be presented like that. But maybe we'll see it in VOL II.

The DiVAS thing not happening on Vernita Green seemed to throw a bunch of people off - perhaps she's no longer a member ("She changed her ways" remember?) as is stated at the beginning, and hell she even changed her name.

Or perhaps it isn't the first time since the incident that she's run into her (rather - seen her.)

who knows, I'm not really bothered by it

The Bride is Black Mamba
Vernita Green is Copperhead
O-Ren Ishii is Cottonmouth
Budd is Sidewinder
Elle Driver is California Mountain Snake

And, it seems that the Deadly Viper Assassination Squad breaks up sometime after they try to kill the Bride. My guess is that the Bride thinks they have broken up before she gets married. For some reason anyway, Bill wants her dead. After they put the Bride in a coma, perhaps Vernita Green is promised a new life as a housewife. O-Ren and Sofie Fatale goes off to run the yakuza. I guess Budd goes and plays cowboy. And I think Elle Driver keeps working for Bill.

Whoops, I misread that in the movie hahah.. That clears stuff up nicely.

The rumor is that it was changed since Charlie's Angels had done a very similar 70's montage.

That comment just lost me.. So because of Charlie's Angels Vernita Green doesn't get the cue card but everyone else does?

So,



If anyone finds out please post if the Asain cut shows more of Sofie & The Bride.

According to Julie Dreyfus (Sofie Fatale), the Asian cut includes a color rendition of the 88 Yakuza as well as

albeit, not a lot more - but there is some.

yeah, but what exactly is removed? fingers? since when she is rolling she does seem to have all the parts we saw her have before.