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bsktballDude1 10-20-03 09:32 PM

So does anyone think the oscars will recognize this movie in any catorgory come February?

I will be seeing this for a second time this upcoming weekend....can't wait.

jough 10-20-03 09:55 PM

Generally in a ward like that they just turn the bodies once or twice a day, and since Buck *is* the person who was supposed to be doing that, it's likely that no one would find him for hours upon hours even after his shift ended.

And who would think to check IN his car for someone? Have you seen the police investigate something? It could take them *days* to figure out that his keys are missing.

DAYS.

immortal_zeus 10-20-03 09:56 PM


Originally posted by das Monkey
<BLOCKQUOTE> • Quoth matome •<HR SIZE=1>She could've dragged the bodies into the corner of the room and since it's the coma ward I doubt many people check on them (thus being able to let people bang away freely). <HR SIZE=1></BLOCKQUOTE>
I'm sure Buck has things worked out where he has a large amount of autonomy in that section such that he isn't disturbed. Considering she had no real connections to the world (no one checking up on her) AND she was shot in the head AND in a coma, chances are she had the absolute lowest possible care imaginable in that situation.

das

You know, the thing I don't understand--and somebody correct me if I'm wrong--but when she wakes up from the coma (the scene where she touches her stomach and realizes that her baby isn't there anymore), she looks at her hands and says "four years, four years". How the hell did she know she was in a coma for four years? :confused: Also, I'm no doctor, but I would think that after being a vegetable for four years, she'd have some memory loss, but there wasn't any.

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sdcrym 10-20-03 10:05 PM

These past few posts have reminded me of one of the funniest parts early on in the movie.

Spoiler:
after she steals Buck's keys, she begins to search for his car in the parking garage. She approaches the giant yellow truck with the phrase "***** Wagon" in giant stylized letters on the back. She stands there a moment, then looks down at the keychain bearing an identically stylized "***** Wagon", as if she was checking some randomly obscure ID number on a valet ticket, then smiles after she realizes its a match


I suppose the spoilers are unnecessary, but I enjoyed using them. I could see this one coming from a mile away, but I still couldn't help but bust out laughing. I had to contain it a few seconds until the joke actually completed to avoid sounding like an idiot in the theater.

das Monkey 10-20-03 11:11 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE> • Quoth immortal_zeus •<HR SIZE=1>How the hell did she know she was in a coma for four years? :confused: <HR SIZE=1></BLOCKQUOTE>
Lines on her hands.
<BLOCKQUOTE> • Quoth immortal_zeus •<HR SIZE=1>Also, I'm no doctor, but I would think that after being a vegetable for four years, she'd have some memory loss, but there wasn't any.<HR SIZE=1></BLOCKQUOTE>
Sometimes ... sometimes not. Really depends on the patient.

das

Come on, guys ... gotta try harder than this. :)

immortal_zeus 10-20-03 11:13 PM


Originally posted by das Monkey
<BLOCKQUOTE> • Quoth immortal_zeus •<HR SIZE=1>How the hell did she know she was in a coma for four years? :confused: <HR SIZE=1></BLOCKQUOTE>
Lines on her hands.

Care to elaborate? That makes no sense at all.

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RichC2 10-20-03 11:16 PM


Care to elaborate? That makes no sense at all.
She "reads" her life line, palm reader-style. (hence the closeup on her hand before she says "four years")

It's "alternative" and not everyone believes you can do stuff like that (she woulda had to of read it prior to the wedding as well), but was definitly a creative way to help her figure it out.

It's sort of the same way of "How did she know who Buck was? And how could she possibly know to look for a Texas tag in the parking lot?" because she heard it while she was in a coma (as it shows)? but does that really make a whole lot of sense? arguable :D

outcastja 10-20-03 11:22 PM

How did she get her sword past airport security?

das Monkey 10-20-03 11:24 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE> • Quoth outcastja •<HR SIZE=1>How did she get her sword past airport security? <HR SIZE=1></BLOCKQUOTE>
Waved her hand in front of the guard's face and said, "these aren't the droids you're looking for."

das

spainlinx0 10-20-03 11:24 PM


Originally posted by outcastja
How did she get her sword past airport security?
Did you notice that there were sword holders on the plane? That's just the kind of world it is. It's not our world.

das Monkey 10-20-03 11:27 PM

Heh ... I was going to say the same thing but couldn't really justify it with "logic." Clearly, this was a plane where swords were allowed, though, and it was made obvious, so it's not a plot hole, just an unknown curiosity.

das

DVDho78DTS 10-20-03 11:27 PM


Originally posted by das Monkey
<BLOCKQUOTE> • Quoth outcastja •<HR SIZE=1>How did she get her sword past airport security? <HR SIZE=1></BLOCKQUOTE>
Waved her hand in front of the guard's face and said, "these aren't the droids you're looking for."

das

:lol:

jough 10-20-03 11:29 PM

Dude, all flights in and out of Japan and China have sword holders so the samurai can have a convenient place to hold their swords. DUH!

Of course, that's only in first class.

immortal_zeus 10-20-03 11:37 PM


Originally posted by spainlinx0
Did you notice that there were sword holders on the plane? That's just the kind of world it is. It's not our world.
Those weren't sword holders, those were the actual swords.

I noticed the swords, too, and brought up that point in the first thread.

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sdcrym 10-20-03 11:58 PM

No, I believe there was actually a slot next to every seat that was designed to hold a sword (which, incidentally, also happens to be inside its sheath, or whatever). What we're talking about is like a beverage/cup holder in a car. Beverage=sword, cup=sheath, beverage/cup holder=sword holder in plane.

Or something. I think I'll go to bed now.

matome 10-21-03 08:00 AM

Sounds like a good analogy to me.

Groucho 10-21-03 08:03 AM

It was my impression that those weren't actual swords, but rather decoration inside the plane. But the "sword holder/cup holder" thing works for me too.

matome 10-21-03 08:29 AM

Actually, if I remember correctly, in a shot of Uma on the plane you can see an empty sword sheath mounted on the side of the aisle seat next to hers.

PixyJunket 10-21-03 08:34 AM


Originally posted by grrrah
Yo Pixy,

Can you share the details? hopefully online? well, i guess I can try searching myself...

http://www.maverick.com/kill-bill/buy/flash.html

Grimfarrow 10-21-03 08:55 AM

Kill Bill in the US IS censored. Take it from someone who has seen both the Hong Kong and US versions.

Things I noticed:

Spoiler:

1) When Sofie is in the trunk, and Uma says that she will lose something that she will miss, Uma then cuts of Sofie's OTHER arm - and tons of blood gushes out while Sofie is screaming. This scene is NOT in the US version.

2) The fight in the Japanese restaurant was all in colour in HK version - never in black and white.

3) There is a guy who gets sliced in half which is missing in the US version.


There's other stuff that I forgot. But the HK version is DEFINITELY bloodier than the US version. I guess that Miramax had to sanitize it for the US, which is really unfortunate. (hence the B&W to mute the amout of blood on the floor). But if this discussion is already debated to the point of overkill, please ignore my post ;)

Groucho 10-21-03 08:59 AM

Unless there's more than one guy cut in half, they did show the guy cut in half in the US version (during the B&W sequence).

jough 10-21-03 09:26 AM

If it was "censored" at all it was self-censorship on the part of Tarantino - he had "final cut" on the film, which gives him complete control over everything in the film.

PixyJunket 10-21-03 09:43 AM

Censored.. -ohbfrank- :lol:

Giles 10-21-03 10:36 AM


Originally posted by Grimfarrow
Kill Bill in the US IS censored. Take it from someone who has seen both the Hong Kong and US versions.

Things I noticed:

Spoiler:

1) When Sofie is in the trunk, and Uma says that she will lose something that she will miss, Uma then cuts of Sofie's OTHER arm - and tons of blood gushes out while Sofie is screaming. This scene is NOT in the US version.

2) The fight in the Japanese restaurant was all in colour in HK version - never in black and white.

3) There is a guy who gets sliced in half which is missing in the US version.


There's other stuff that I forgot. But the HK version is DEFINITELY bloodier than the US version. I guess that Miramax had to sanitize it for the US, which is really unfortunate. (hence the B&W to mute the amout of blood on the floor). But if this discussion is already debated to the point of overkill, please ignore my post ;)

Spoiler:
is the guy who is cut in half basically bisected through his head down his stomach, Fangoria ran a pic of this victim. Also is Buck's 'lower lip removal' intact or does that scene playout similar to the US cut where it desolves to black?

matome 10-21-03 10:39 AM

Not sure if we really need spoilers now for the US version here but just in case:

POSSIBLE TINY SPOILER!!!!!!!!




I was curious about the lip bite thing as well. Something definitely seemed cut between that shot and the ensuing one. Any thoughts on that Grimfarrow?


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