The Donner Cut is not terrible! The assembly cut is quite interesting, but in the end it really can't solve the fundamental problems with the movie, and is basically just longer.

I'll revisit 3 again of these days, I haven't seen it in years.

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Alien Resurrection is fine as a Jean-Pierre Jeunet film. I hated it when I first watched it. After seeing his other films (at the time, it was probably Amelie and City of Lost Children), I revisited it and could view it in a different way. Still, a strange direction to take. What did Fox expect?

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I still say the best route is to make 3 and 4 a dream. In the concept drawings it's obvious that both Ripley and Hicks are a bit older than they were in Aliens, and older than they would have been in Alien 3.

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:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

People complain that the films don't move the story forward, yet they sit here and clamor for tired rehashes with safe and familiar characters.

I actually believe that the underlying story of each Alien film (excluding both AvP movies) did move the story forward. Unfortunately the politics of filmmaking got in the way of the later chapters and the stories have been eclipsed by the mangled results of studio interference and egotistical producers. You cannot look at the list of directors and argue that any of them are hacks.

Even Prometheus had valuable information for the saga ... It just got lost in an incomprehensible mess of poorly constructed characters and logic gaps. Although, I have not heard anything that would indicate that one was not the fault of the filmmakers.

I'm with Jaymole, I actually like Resurrection. It has a fantastic visual style which makes it fit -- if there is one consistency in the series it is the unique visual styles that work with each individual story. The characters are interesting and entertaining. It moves the story forward to "what happens when 'The Company' actually gets their hands on an Alien."

When people bash Resurrection, the only thing I see them point to is the hybrid/baby finale. Yes, I admit that one part sucked. Story wise it made sense, but the execution was terrible. However what else can you give me? It was still leaps and bounds above the skull**cking Prometheus did.

OK, I just thought of something that works for #5 and I would not be averse to.
If we have to bring Sigourney Weaver back, bring her back as the one thing she despises almost as much as the Aliens ... Bring her back as Ellen, not as Ripley.

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I don't mind the 3rd and 4th movies, although they don't hold a candle to the first two. The only thing that bothers me is the continual shoehorning in of Sigourney Weaver. It isn't necessary to have her in every movie, and I'd be content to never see her again.

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Amen .... let's go with new material instead of recycling Aliens!

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I recently re-watched both Alien 3 And Resurrection.

I liked Alien 3 more than I remembered liking it. That being said I still didn't think it was great. It was enjoyable. I watched the theatrical cut; I saw the Assembly years ago and hardly remember it. I like the idea of going back to basics and having to fight one alien and being under-equipped for the task. It looked cool and had some good ideas but ultimately I think it was a failure.

Alien Resurrection was a turd. I didn't like it when I first saw it years ago and I still didn't like it. It had me rolling my eyes multiple times. And holy crap Ron Perlman is absolutely god-awful. Weaver as well. She hammed it up the entire movie and it's just awful. I thought she did a really great job in Alien 3 as far as acting goes. The dialogue in this flick is just atrocious. This movie felt like a failed video game idea turned into a movie.

I don't even consider the abominations of the Alien Vs. Predator movies when I think about the franchise. Honestly, I had forgotten about them when I opened the thread. They feel more like terrible Predator movies to me than anything else.

All that being said, I await to see what is being done with Alien 5. The first two flicks in the franchise are among my absolute favorites. Since I was a little kid I've wanted to see an Alien movie pick up where Aliens left off, Newt and Hicks in tow. The news of the new film picking up where the second film has me more excited than I should be. We'll see.

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I agree that Resurrection is better than Prometheus (an opinion that was heavily attacked when I posted it in the Prometheus discussion thread years ago), but I still think Resurrection is a poor aliens film. There's virtually no tension in the movie, and I couldn't care less about those characters. Ripley becomes this wholly detached, bland thing. Alien 3, for all of its faults, had characters that you could connect to on some level, and Ripley still gave a shit. Also if I recall, the movie lingers on shots of the aliens so there's virtually no mystery left to them.

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Apparently this'll be an Avengers crossover.

https://scontent-mia.xx.fbcdn.net/hp...1b&oe=55494DF9

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You really love those images, Rocshemp.

They are fun to see.

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It was odd. I have no idea why a guy who directed whimsical French art house movies seemed like Fox's choice to direct a sci-fi action film. Plus, from what I understand, he hardly spoke any English at the time, so directing must've been difficult.

I think part of that is just the technical limitations. There used to be a limit to what you could do with practical effects and budgets at the time. Now CG lets you show pretty much anything you want, and the mystique of the monster we barley see in the shadows is gone now, replaced with banal CG creatures.

I'm going to regret asking this, I just know it, but where are you getting all of these?

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From here, or some other site that gets from it from there.

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Found them on FaceBook.

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That reminds me of Twisted Toyfare Theater, just only one image instead of a series that tells a funny story.

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They'll be lots of man on man action.

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Actually, now I'm trying to imagine a Hulk Xenomorph. But how likely would it be? Couldn't Hulk just rip the Facehugger off? Unless it caught him as Banner and "impregnated" him before he transformed into Hulk (who would then rip off the Xenomorph). Then we'd get a Xenomorph that could Hulk out. :D

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Funny, the gaming site Kotaku just linked to these today.

They're from this guy - https://www.facebook.com/hrjoephotog...=page_internal

And his Instagram - https://instagram.com/hrjoe_photography/

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"gaming" is a loose term for Kotaku these days.

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Not sure if you're being sarcastic about their content or quality, but disagree either way.

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Used to go to their site regularly, then it became a straight up japanese and geek culture blog instead (nerd gawker), was disappointing. More so with Joystiq now defunct.

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Completely disagree that it's "straight up" those things, but that's a conversation for elsewhere :shrug:

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Pssh whose going to come into another comic book movie thread anyway. Oh wait this is Alien 5. What the hell? :lol:

I am curious to see what they do with this franchise.

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I wonder if an Alien could even burst out of Hulk's chest. Aliens are strong, but I kind of doubt they would be that strong.

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But if it takes his attributes (as Xenomorphs have been shown to do with their hosts), this scene could very well happen.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.n...35060244_o.jpg

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This thread has gotten derailed a bit I would say, but it still might be more entertaining than a new Alien movie.

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I agree with this. The assembly cut makes a terrible movie into a mediocre one.

The added scenes better explain some things, but they don't make up for inmates that all run together.

But the movie loses all credibility by having its entire premise hinge upon a giant, unexplainable plothole. You have a multi-million dollar movie passing off crap writing that is barely tolerable in a cheap, cable movie. :rolleyes:

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What's the movies plot hole?

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Where the hell did the egg come from? The queen tore herself loose from her egg sack when she chased after Ripley, and it's preposterous to assume she just happened to grab an egg to take with her, just in case she got a chance to infect someone later on. Even if she did, and even if Ripley didn't give the dropship a thorough decontamination before going into hypersleep, all the eggs we've seen are motion sensitive -- they don't open unless there's a potential host nearby. It makes no sense for an egg to release a facehugger on a spaceship where everyone's in hypersleep -- how would it know it's not in some deserted derelict a la the Space Jockey's ship from the first film?

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:up:

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Before the fucking chicken

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The big issue for me is that the chestburster comes out as a fully formed xenomorph. It's slightly less annoying in the assembly cut when the alien gestates inside an ox, versus in the theatrical cut where the xenomorph bursts out fully formed from a dog that is about the same size. That's just fucking lazy.

Also, in regards to Resurrection, I think it would have been received a lot better if the hybrid had any aspects of the xenomorph at all. As it is, the hybrid looks like a reject from an entirely different movie. It should have looked like a traditional xenomorph, but walked upright, no tail, and had a skull-like face with eyes. And they should have gotten Giger to design it.

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Eggs. Ripley and the dog/ox were infected.

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Technically, Alien3 is a competantly made film. But it's a horrible Alien film.

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Although I agree the hybrid looked all kinds of wrong, it could have been worse. They could have used the creature that Joss Whedon suggested in his script. That had zero traits of both a xenomorph or a human.

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No, it's not even that. I do enjoy it. But no.

I'll tolerate the Queen still having and egg in her body and dumping it on the ship before her fight with Ripley, but I've never been able to get around them going into hyper sleep without discovering it. I would have had the computer examine every inch of the damn ship.

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The dog alien that bursted out of the dog was small at first but it actually ate, so it got bigger faster.

That rottweiler it bursted out of was huge.

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He was asking where the eggs came from.

A3 is a good A L I E N film. Not a good Aliens film. But a followup showing Ripley cooking Tewt eggs and pancakes would not be a good film. Tewt running around yelling Ahhhhfirmative isn't important to the Alien legacy.

A5 doesn't need Ripley in it.

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The size ratio was still way off. Look at the size of the chestbursters that came out of humans. Those aren't even as long as our forearms. So a rottweiler has a creature in it that's half its total size? More than half? Where'd the rest of the dog go? :lol:

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http://odinokov.org/content/Articles...lien_3_dog.jpg


Forced perspective?