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Old 01-06-16, 04:31 PM   #76
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Let's hope they include something watchable.
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What's the time frame on those 100? Within a year? 5 years? Ever? Maybe True Lies and the Abyss are part of that 100.

Ok maybe not.
I'm slowly resigning myself to the fact that we just aren't going to get those in HD .
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For dynamic range/color gamut, but Super 35 productions probably won't gain a lot from 4k in spatial resolution.
Anamorphic has more resolution than Super 35?
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Old 01-07-16, 04:59 AM   #79
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What's the time frame on those 100? Within a year? 5 years? Ever?

Maybe True Lies and the Abyss are part of that 100. Ok maybe not.
Now that 4K is already obsolete with the introduction of 8K, maybe they are waiting for that?
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Old 01-07-16, 05:31 PM   #81
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Old 01-09-16, 08:41 PM   #82
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Doesn't Sony have the largest 4K catalog? I remember reading about that somewhere a while back. It's not so much a format war this time as it is trying to figure out the best way to deliver 4K content since all TV's will be that way in a few years. So what's the best way to deliver 4K content and maximize profitibility. Sony thinks this new contraption/service may be the way. But abandoning physical media may not be the best option for them or anyone.
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Doesn't Sony have the largest 4K catalog?
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But abandoning physical media may not be the best option for them or anyone.
Although they haven't announced a player yet, that doesn't mean that one isn't on the way. They have announced software support, and honestly, that's more important than another player anyway.
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Old 01-10-16, 11:50 PM   #84
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I can't see them bundling UHD-Blu-ray/Blu-ray/DVD and Digital codes all in one package either.

The Blu-ray/DVD combos made sense because DVDs were cheap to include, they were more versatile for computers, portable DVD players, secondary set-ups etc.

Blu-ray is already somewhat of an elite format (compared to DVD) that is still relatively expensive to manufacture, not compatible with most computers & portable players and secondary set-ups are usually still DVD, all of which make them useless in the eyes of any cutting-edge UHD-Blu-ray buyer.
well if the CES packaging is any indication - they could possibly be UHD/bluray combos:

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LIONSGATE ANNOUNCES FIRST 4K ULTRA HD BLU-RAY™ RELEASES

SICARIO, THE LAST WITCH HUNTER, ENDER'S GAME AND THE EXPENDABLES 3 WILL NOW BE AVAILABLE FOR THE FIRST TIME ON ULTRA HD BLU-RAY DISCS

SANTA MONICA, CA, January 12, 2016 - Lionsgate (NYSE:LGF), an industry leader in the marketing and distribution of packaged media and digital entertainment, announced today the arrival of its first four home entertainment releases presented in state-of-the-art 4K Ultra HD (UHD) resolution. Sicario, The Last Witch Hunter, Ender's Game, and The Expendables 3 will be available March 1, 2016, timed to Ultra HD Blu-ray players' market availability.

In addition to 4K UHD resolution which offers 4x the resolution of conventional HD, the new high-impact discs pack even more of a visual punch with High Dynamic Range (HDR) imagery available on television sets supporting HDR. HDR provides a dramatic improvement in brilliance, contrast and breadth of colors that must truly be experienced to be believed. The combination of 4K Ultra HD with HDR provides a more vivid and realistic visual experience than ever before.

For optimal sound quality, the discs for the critically acclaimed box-office success Sicario, Ender's Game and The Expendables 3 feature next-generation object-based Dolby Atmos audio, while The Last Witch Hunter delivers cinematic audio with advanced, object-based DTS:X™ Audio.

"As we were with Blu-ray, we are proud to again be at the forefront of a new format and excited to offer consumers the highest quality home viewing experience possible with the 4K disc being the premiere showcase," said Ron Schwartz, President, Home Entertainment. "These four films are uniquely suited to show consumers how incredible this new format can be with a truly immersive experience complementing the new hardware capabilities."

Each 4K UHD release will be packaged with a Blu-ray and Digital HD copy and will contain all previously released special features. Sicario and The Last Witch Hunter will be available at the suggested retail price of $42.99. Ender's Game and The Expendables 3 will be priced at $22.99 SRP.
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Old 01-12-16, 01:28 PM   #86
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LIONSGATE ANNOUNCES FIRST 4K ULTRA HD BLU-RAY™ RELEASES

SICARIO, THE LAST WITCH HUNTER, ENDER'S GAME AND THE EXPENDABLES 3 WILL NOW BE AVAILABLE FOR THE FIRST TIME ON ULTRA HD BLU-RAY DISCS
Heh.

More boring/tired movies to pile on to the already announced Fox + Sony slate of boring/tired movies to be released on ultra hd.
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Old 01-12-16, 01:42 PM   #87
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LIONSGATE ANNOUNCES FIRST 4K ULTRA HD BLU-RAY™ RELEASES

SICARIO, THE LAST WITCH HUNTER, ENDER'S GAME AND THE EXPENDABLES 3 WILL NOW BE AVAILABLE FOR THE FIRST TIME ON ULTRA HD BLU-RAY DISCS

SANTA MONICA, CA, January 12, 2016 - Lionsgate (NYSE:LGF), an industry leader in the marketing and distribution of packaged media and digital entertainment, announced today the arrival of its first four home entertainment releases presented in state-of-the-art 4K Ultra HD (UHD) resolution. Sicario, The Last Witch Hunter, Ender's Game, and The Expendables 3 will be available March 1, 2016, timed to Ultra HD Blu-ray players' market availability.

In addition to 4K UHD resolution which offers 4x the resolution of conventional HD, the new high-impact discs pack even more of a visual punch with High Dynamic Range (HDR) imagery available on television sets supporting HDR. HDR provides a dramatic improvement in brilliance, contrast and breadth of colors that must truly be experienced to be believed. The combination of 4K Ultra HD with HDR provides a more vivid and realistic visual experience than ever before.

For optimal sound quality, the discs for the critically acclaimed box-office success Sicario, Ender's Game and The Expendables 3 feature next-generation object-based Dolby Atmos audio, while The Last Witch Hunter delivers cinematic audio with advanced, object-based DTS:X™ Audio.

"As we were with Blu-ray, we are proud to again be at the forefront of a new format and excited to offer consumers the highest quality home viewing experience possible with the 4K disc being the premiere showcase," said Ron Schwartz, President, Home Entertainment. "These four films are uniquely suited to show consumers how incredible this new format can be with a truly immersive experience complementing the new hardware capabilities."

Each 4K UHD release will be packaged with a Blu-ray and Digital HD copy and will contain all previously released special features. Sicario and The Last Witch Hunter will be available at the suggested retail price of $42.99. Ender's Game and The Expendables 3 will be priced at $22.99 SRP.
Left unsaid is that Lionsgate was basically bribed to release movies for Blu-ray early in its lifecycle. Many of their early BDs now don't work due to faulty manufacturing.
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Old 01-12-16, 01:54 PM   #88
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Left unsaid is that Lionsgate was basically bribed to release movies for Blu-ray early in its lifecycle. Many of their early BDs now don't work due to faulty manufacturing.
(On a tangent).

The only easy way I found around this problem back when I first started buying a lot of blurays in 2011, was to buy the Canadian pressings of various early Lionsgate bluray titles released by Maple Pictures. (Maple Pictures was owned by Lionsgate over the span of bluray's early era). Maple seemed to have used a better bluray manufacturing plant at the time.
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Old 01-12-16, 03:20 PM   #89
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Left unsaid is that Lionsgate was basically bribed to release movies for Blu-ray early in its lifecycle. Many of their early BDs now don't work due to faulty manufacturing.
Ugh I had never heard that. I guess it's time to check some of my early discs.
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Ender's Game? Sicaro? Last Witch Hunter? Expendables 3?

Way to push the format.
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Well, that's a good sign- I don't think any of the first Blu-Rays were priced that low. Prices generally come down further after a while too.
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If you join foxconnect.com's mailing list, you can get 30% off your first order, bringing Fox's slate of UHD BDs down to $18.19 a pop.
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Okay, that's a good price for a new format. Now I'm tempted...
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Ender's Game? Sicaro? Last Witch Hunter? Expendables 3?

Way to push the format.
What do you have against Sicario? The other titles are disposable, sure, but Sicario is a smart pick for a launch title. Critically acclaimed, strong word-of-mouth, solid box office, likely to be part of the Oscar conversation shortly.
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What do you have against Sicario? The other titles are disposable, sure, but Sicario is a smart pick for a launch title. Critically acclaimed, strong word-of-mouth, solid box office, likely to be part of the Oscar conversation shortly.
Nothing against the film. It just doesn't seem like the kind of thing that's going to inspire people to invest in a new format.
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I hate to sound hack but usually to roll out a new format one of the blockbuster, mindless, loud popcorn movies are the ticket. I remember when DVD rolled out, Twister was the demo disc.
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What do you have against Sicario? The other titles are disposable, sure, but Sicario is a smart pick for a launch title. Critically acclaimed, strong word-of-mouth, solid box office, likely to be part of the Oscar conversation shortly.
Which maybe true, but this doesn't mean shit for exploiting Ultra HD clarity, colors, effects, etc.

Avatar should be a launch title. Haven't read if it is, so forgive me if it was already chosen. Colors pop. Definition is amazing on Blu-ray.

Sicario looks good for a war movie with the typical plots, but it's not in business to convince UHD folks. It's got a tempered/throttled color palette, for example to emphasize effect. We've seen this color palette in a lot of movies. Yawn. Get me a vomit bucket, thanks.

For UHD to convince, first, get the visual a priority (the audio should be 7.1 standard by now, and if not, whatever). Toss the fucking drama crap out the window as the main thrust to sell this format.

Visuals come first. Visuals create the emotion. Not the other way around.

If it's filtered, toss that sucker out the window as well. Not saying they can't be better in UHD, but certainly NOT A REFERENCE POINT. And that's why you do a launch title to begin with. Set your standards high to show what the format can do.
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Launch titles for any new format are almost always terrible. This is nothing new. The studios do not want to release "winners" that may sell better when a format has a much larger installed base of potential customers down the line.
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Old 01-14-16, 12:36 AM   #99
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C'mon! True Lies, The Abyss, Strange Days.. where are you??
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C'mon! True Lies, The Abyss, Strange Days.. where are you??
I've had Strange Days on BD for years now. UHD would make no difference.
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