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-   -   The Dark Knight Rises - Blu-ray + DVD + UV Digital Copy (Dec 07, 2012) (https://forum.dvdtalk.com/hd-talk/603656-dark-knight-rises-blu-ray-dvd-uv-digital-copy-dec-07-2012-a.html)

JeffTheAlpaca 09-14-12 04:16 PM
Re: The Dark Knight Rises - Blu-ray + DVD + UV Digital Copy (Dec 07, 2012)
 
Hope the artwork posted by the OP is the blu-ray artwork

Wonder if they will release the original 90's batman films on blu-ray at the same time since the anthology set is OOP?

RocShemp 09-26-12 09:54 AM
Re: The Dark Knight Rises - Blu-ray + DVD + UV Digital Copy (Dec 07, 2012)
 
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/...dL._AA500_.jpg


http://www.amazon.co.uk/Dark-Knight-...8658753&sr=1-6

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/...mL._AA500_.jpg
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Dark-Knight-...dp/B009H00LAS/


and...

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/...BL._AA500_.jpg
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Dark-Knight-...658419&sr=1-35

Please let the trilogy have a remastered TDK! -pray-

Although, given the amount of disks, it's likely the same previous releases of the first two with new disk art. :sad:

DJariya 09-26-12 10:01 AM
Re: The Dark Knight Rises - Blu-ray + DVD + UV Digital Copy (Dec 07, 2012)
 
Okay what is the deal with TDK? Why does it need remastering?

Travis McClain 09-26-12 10:42 AM
Re: The Dark Knight Rises - Blu-ray + DVD + UV Digital Copy (Dec 07, 2012)
 
Originally Posted by DJariya (Post 11400233)
Okay what is the deal with TDK? Why does it need remastering?
Go back to any number of TDK posts here for the whole thing, but there were lots of complaints about grain, colors and the richness (or lack thereof) of the black throughout. The DVD release was even worse, and there was a widely popular conspiracy theory that Warner gave an especially shoddy DVD release just to artificially promote Blu-ray.

Also: Is it just me, or does it appear they gave the Batman Begins side of the Trilogy Digipak two disc spaces and TDKR just one?

RocShemp 09-26-12 11:13 AM
Re: The Dark Knight Rises - Blu-ray + DVD + UV Digital Copy (Dec 07, 2012)
 
Originally Posted by MinLShaw (Post 11400294)
Go back to any number of TDK posts here for the whole thing, but there were lots of complaints about grain, colors and the richness (or lack thereof) of the black throughout. The DVD release was even worse, and there was a widely popular conspiracy theory that Warner gave an especially shoddy DVD release just to artificially promote Blu-ray.
Yup. Although, in all fairness, most WB's DVD releases were shit that year.

As for the BD, the issue was with how the non-IMAX footage was transferred.

Originally Posted by MinLShaw (Post 11400294)
Also: Is it just me, or does it appear they gave the Batman Begins side of the Trilogy Digipak two disc spaces and TDKR just one?
It's not just you. But given the amount of disks shown, either you're supposed to keep the movies in reverse order or someone just plain screwed up when they created that display model.

Supermallet 09-26-12 11:22 AM
Re: The Dark Knight Rises - Blu-ray + DVD + UV Digital Copy (Dec 07, 2012)
 
Originally Posted by MinLShaw (Post 11400294)
Go back to any number of TDK posts here for the whole thing, but there were lots of complaints about grain, colors and the richness (or lack thereof) of the black throughout. The DVD release was even worse, and there was a widely popular conspiracy theory that Warner gave an especially shoddy DVD release just to artificially promote Blu-ray.

Also: Is it just me, or does it appear they gave the Batman Begins side of the Trilogy Digipak two disc spaces and TDKR just one?
You're right, it does look like BB has two and TDKR has one.

As for TDK, the 35mm sequences have all kinds of problems. It's always painful to watch it because the IMAX sequences look perfect.

Matthew Chmiel 09-26-12 12:39 PM
Re: The Dark Knight Rises - Blu-ray + DVD + UV Digital Copy (Dec 07, 2012)
 
Originally Posted by Supermallet (Post 11400346)
As for TDK, the 35mm sequences have all kinds of problems. It's always painful to watch it because the IMAX sequences look perfect.
Because Warner used the IMAX master to create a 2K/1080p master for the Blu-ray and digital releases rather than going directly from a 35mm negative like the DVD.

I've always had the stance Warner should've used seamless branching and given the customer the option:
  • Watch the entire film at 2.40:1 a la the DVD.
  • Watch the 35mm segments at 2.40:1 and the IMAX sequences at 1.78:1 a la the Blu-ray
Even with a film like TDK, the IMAX footage is under 30 minutes leaving plenty of space to house both versions of the film with ample room for great compression and audio options. However, Warner hasn't used seamless branching on Blu-ray outside of Blade Runner because they're a bunch of cheap fucks.

RocShemp 09-26-12 12:59 PM
Re: The Dark Knight Rises - Blu-ray + DVD + UV Digital Copy (Dec 07, 2012)
 
Originally Posted by Matthew Chmiel (Post 11400477)
Because Warner used the IMAX master to create a 2K/1080p master for the Blu-ray and digital releases rather than going directly from a 35mm negative like the DVD.

I've always had the stance Warner should've used seamless branching and given the customer the option:
  • Watch the entire film at 2.40:1 a la the DVD.
  • Watch the 35mm segments at 2.40:1 and the IMAX sequences at 1.78:1 a la the Blu-ray
Even with a film like TDK, the IMAX footage is under 30 minutes leaving plenty of space to house both versions of the film with ample room for great compression and audio options. However, Warner hasn't used seamless branching on Blu-ray outside of Blade Runner because they're a bunch of cheap fucks.
The other problem is that, from what I've read, IMAX releases of 35mm films tended to look like crap back then (dunno if that's changed) because of some "enhancements" they'd do to the footage. That's apparently what's reflected on the BD.

Matthew Chmiel 09-26-12 01:10 PM
Re: The Dark Knight Rises - Blu-ray + DVD + UV Digital Copy (Dec 07, 2012)
 
Originally Posted by RocShemp (Post 11400510)
The other problem is that, from what I've read, IMAX releases of 35mm films tended to look like crap back then (dunno if that's changed) because of some "enhancements" they'd do to the footage. That's apparently what's reflected on the BD.
Yes, the Digital Media Remastering process. In a nutshell:

Originally Posted by Wikipedia
IMAX's proprietary DMR (Digital Media Remastering) process, which allows conventional films to be upconverted into IMAX format. This special digital intermediate technology allowed films shot on 35mm for conventional theatres to be shown in IMAX venues. In 2002, Star Wars Episode II: Attack of the Clones and an IMAX-format re-release of the 1995 film Apollo 13, were the first official applications of the DMR process. Because of the projection limitations at the time, Apollo 13 and Attack of the Clones had to be edited down from their original length. As IMAX updated the system and expanded the size of the platters, the later DMR releases did not have this limitation; current platters allow a run time of up to 170 minutes where films could run longer in venues with digital projection.

Reviewers have generally praised the results of the DMR blowup process, which are visually and audibly superior to the same films projected in 35mm. But some filmmakers, such as producer Frank Marshall, point out that DMR blowups are not comparable to films created directly in the 70 mm 15 perf IMAX format, and that directors Ron Howard and George Lucas expected better. They note that the decline of Cinerama coincided roughly with its replacement by a simpler, cheaper, technically inferior version, and view DMR with alarm. IMAX originally reserved the phrase "the IMAX experience" for true 70 mm productions, but now allows its use on DMR productions as well.

Since The Lion King in 2003, no Hollywood studio had suggested in re-releasing and restoring classic films through the IMAX DMR process. But in August 2012, IMAX and Paramount Pictures announced a one-week exclusive re-release of Raiders of the Lost Ark on September 7, 2012, to promote the release of the Blu-Ray collection. The film, before it underwent through DMR, was already restored in a 4K digital intermediate with 7.1 surround sound from the original negative. The process for IMAX theaters, like with the complete restoration, was supervised by Steven Spielberg and sound designer Ben Burtt. "I didn’t know if the 1981 print would stand up to a full IMAX transfer, so I came expecting a sort of grainy, muddy, and overly enlarged representation of the movie I had made years ago," Spielberg said. "I was blown away by the fact that it looked better than the movie I had made years ago."
In regards to Spielberg's quote, there were a lot of negative comments regarding Raiders' IMAX presentation earlier this month in its respective thread over in Movie Talk. A lot of complaints that the film at times would appear blurry and overly compressed despite the fact the DMR presentation came from a 4K master. I never had a chance to witness it due to this month being quite hectic, but it doesn't surprise me. I've witnessed quite a few DMR processed films where edge enhancement was the norm.

bootsy 09-26-12 01:59 PM
Re: The Dark Knight Rises - Blu-ray + DVD + UV Digital Copy (Dec 07, 2012)
 
I don't know, I'm just not that picky about the TDK BD. I've never found it unwatchable because of how it looked. Maybe because I like the movie so much that I am just not paying attention that much but the picture doesn't seem as bad as people make it out to be. If it gets a remaster I will definitely buy to me I've never seen the big problem with how it looks now. Is it perfect? No but it isn't to the point where I just can't watch it again.

Mike86 09-26-12 02:02 PM
Re: The Dark Knight Rises - Blu-ray + DVD + UV Digital Copy (Dec 07, 2012)
 
Originally Posted by RocShemp (Post 11400217)
Damn not sure which one to get. I'll probably wait and see what the US release is like but depending on what the mask packaging looks like in person and the quality of it I may get that one. Might go for the trilogy set too though.

Solid Snake 09-26-12 04:01 PM
Re: The Dark Knight Rises - Blu-ray + DVD + UV Digital Copy (Dec 07, 2012)
 
I'm getting TDKR. There's no stopping that..but if TDK BD in the trilogy set is remastered..well fuuuuuuck. I'll glady throw down some cash for that set. Tagging along would be BB.

iNCREDiPiNOY 09-26-12 04:20 PM
Re: The Dark Knight Rises - Blu-ray + DVD + UV Digital Copy (Dec 07, 2012)
 
The Dark Knight Rises SteelBook Edition (Amazon.de Exclusive) (2-Discs) - EUR 28,99
http://www.amazon.de/Knight-Steelboo.../dp/B009CV80LY

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/...1L._AA500_.jpg

The Dark Knight Trilogy SteelBook Edition (Amazon.de Exclusive) (5-Discs) - EUR 54,99
http://www.amazon.de/Trilogy-Steelbo.../dp/B009CV8DSO

RocShemp 09-26-12 04:24 PM
Re: The Dark Knight Rises - Blu-ray + DVD + UV Digital Copy (Dec 07, 2012)
 
Originally Posted by iNCREDiPiNOY (Post 11400785)
The Dark Knight Trilogy SteelBook Edition (Amazon.de Exclusive) (5-Discs) - EUR 54,99
http://www.amazon.de/Trilogy-Steelbo.../dp/B009CV8DSO
That has to be the laziest steelbook artwork I've ever seen. You'd think they'd go all out for the trilogy. ;)

OldBoy 09-26-12 05:15 PM
Re: The Dark Knight Rises - Blu-ray + DVD + UV Digital Copy (Dec 07, 2012)
 
Originally Posted by iNCREDiPiNOY (Post 11400785)
The Dark Knight Rises SteelBook Edition (Amazon.de Exclusive) (2-Discs) - EUR 28,99
http://www.amazon.de/Knight-Steelboo.../dp/B009CV80LY

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/...1L._AA500_.jpg

The Dark Knight Trilogy SteelBook Edition (Amazon.de Exclusive) (5-Discs) - EUR 54,99
http://www.amazon.de/Trilogy-Steelbo.../dp/B009CV8DSO
i hope we get something similar here!

Imail724 09-26-12 07:14 PM
Re: The Dark Knight Rises - Blu-ray + DVD + UV Digital Copy (Dec 07, 2012)
 
drool

Why So Blu? 09-27-12 10:39 AM
Re: The Dark Knight Rises - Blu-ray + DVD + UV Digital Copy (Dec 07, 2012)
 
I'm digging that steelbook and those UK sets.

TheMovieman 09-27-12 07:35 PM
Re: The Dark Knight Rises - Blu-ray + DVD + UV Digital Copy (Dec 07, 2012)
 
Here are the features (per Warner press release):
"THE BATMOBILE" DOCUMENTARY: Witness all five Batmobiles together for the first time in history. Dive deep into every aspect of the most awe-inspiring weapon in Batman's arsenal as you journey through the birth and evolution of this technological marvel and cultural icon. (01:00)
· ENDING THE KNIGHT: A comprehensive look into how Director Christopher Nolan and his production team made "The Dark Knight Rises" the epic conclusion to the Dark Knight legend.
Production
o The Prologue: High-Altitude Hijacking
o Return to the Batcave
o Beneath Gotham
o The Bat
o Batman vs Bane
o Armory Accepted
o Gameday Destruction
o Demolishing a City Street
o The Pit
o The Chant
o The War on Wall Street
o Race to the Reactor
Characters
o The Journey of Bruce Wayne
o Gotham's Reckoning
o A Girls Gotta Eat
Reflections
o Shadows & Light in Large Format
o The End of A Legend
· Trailers
· Art Galleries
· UltraViolet: Instantly stream and download films to compatible devices

islandclaws 09-27-12 08:05 PM
Re: The Dark Knight Rises - Blu-ray + DVD + UV Digital Copy (Dec 07, 2012)
 
Looks a little light, but I'm curious to see that comprehensive doc.

Solid Snake 09-27-12 08:43 PM
Re: The Dark Knight Rises - Blu-ray + DVD + UV Digital Copy (Dec 07, 2012)
 
Batmobile doc sounds stupid.

E Unit 09-27-12 09:04 PM
Re: The Dark Knight Rises - Blu-ray + DVD + UV Digital Copy (Dec 07, 2012)
 
Yes it does.

milo bloom 09-27-12 09:34 PM
Re: The Dark Knight Rises - Blu-ray + DVD + UV Digital Copy (Dec 07, 2012)
 
Originally Posted by Solid Snake PAC (Post 11402547)
Batmobile doc sounds stupid.
I thought it sounded like the best part... :(

Of course the only thing I'm really interested in is that supposed longer cut on DVD so what the hell do I know?

Evan Meadow 09-28-12 05:39 AM
Re: The Dark Knight Rises - Blu-ray + DVD + UV Digital Copy (Dec 07, 2012)
 
Originally Posted by Solid Snake PAC (Post 11402547)
Batmobile doc sounds stupid.
They did like a 30 minute version of it as a special on the CW like last month.

As a long time Batman fan, I really enjoyed it.

E Unit 09-28-12 08:54 AM
Re: The Dark Knight Rises - Blu-ray + DVD + UV Digital Copy (Dec 07, 2012)
 
US release for the limited edition. Looks pretty much exactly like the UK one.

http://www.superherohype.com/images/...sk_510x383.jpg

gryffinmaster 09-28-12 09:19 AM
Re: The Dark Knight Rises - Blu-ray + DVD + UV Digital Copy (Dec 07, 2012)
 
Interesting. Kinda looks like they may have miniaturized the already-available "Dark Knight Trilogy" book -- which is rather good -- so it can fit in the box with the foldout packaging.


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