I went to one around 1:30 and there was only 2 copies on hand of each.

Hopefully and if that does well enough, wrap it up with Voyager.

Wow... Target didn't even lower the price this time. $79.99 but got them to pricematch Amazon. Checked out A Fistful of Datas as I'm about to watch The Good The Bad and The Ugly. (RIP Tuco)

Got my copy today. It's so fun to revisit these episodes that I used to record on VHS off television over 20 years ago. I've never seen this show look so good and I'm so glad they didn't do what they did with The Original Series and George Lucas-ize the special effects. All the shots are faithful to the source material.

What I want to know, though, is with season 7 coming up in December, are they going to have a separate extras packed one for "All Good Things..."? I hope not. Season 7 is so sparse with good episodes to do special features about to begin with. "All Good Things..." is really the only stand-out episode. Besides, "All Good Things..." is a feature length episode to begin with and not a two parter to be edited together like they did with the previous four single releases.

Personally I would be shocked if they didn't have a separate release for ALL Good Things. Many that don't want to shell out big buck for the whole series would buy it to go with the movies. Like me. I bought Chain of Command recently for the same reason.

If they do, then it will be the biggest cash-grab they've ever done. Because at least "The Best of Both Worlds"; "Redemption"; "Unification"; and "Chain of Command" could boast having 2-part episodes edited into a feature length format. "All Good Things..." would be feature length on the single and season set.

And without the special features of "All Good Things...", what are they going to brag about for the extras of season 7? The only other stand-out episodes of that season 7 is "The Pegasus" and "Lower Decks". That's it. Finito.

"Hear the sizzling commentary about 'Sub Rosa'! Here are the deleted scenes to 'Genesis'! Please! Please buy season 7 and also the separate 'All Good Things...' because that's the only way you'll see the special features!"

To be fair, they would've like to have done the same for the original series, but the original film elements didn't exist for the FX like they did for TNG, just the finished print. At least they provided the option of seeing the original FX via seamless branching for TOS.

It's impossible to say for certain. They've done a separate standalone episode release for each season starting with season 3, but they didn't for seasons 1 & 2, so it's possible they'd go back to that.

They could also do some sort of follow up to the original "Next Level" release, making a "best-of" standalone, possibly with episodes from multiple seasons, with additional extras.

Was this really much of a draw for these releases? I mean the "editing" done was basically removing the end credits from the first and the "previously on" recap and opening credits from the 2nd. A few chapter skips on the season sets pretty much accomplish the same thing.

That would be great. I think the previous "Q", "Borg", etc. DVD sets had their appeal to those that don't feel TNG has enough quality episodes to make buying full seasons worth the cost.


See above. I happen to fall into the camp that doesn't think the TNG season sets are worth the cost when each only has a few episodes I find worthy. If they put those few episodes (most people agree on which they are) on seperate sets that are far cheaper than the season sets, with specific extras, they may just sell as well as the season sets.

Personally, I think you just made the case for having a separate release from S7. All Good Things is really the only thing in S7 worth owning. Maybe Descent pt II as a Borg completist, Gambit, and Pegasus, but that's really it . Not even close to enough to make owning the whole season worth while.

Yeah, I understand the appeal to some of getting the standalones instead of the full season sets, but I'd wager you would've bought it regardless of whether they had edited the episodes into one "movie" or not. That was my point: the editing together of the two episodes was likely of limited appeal and people either got the standalones in lieu of the season sets because they liked the episodes, or in addition to the season set for the extras.

I bought the Chain of Command standalone release and the Season 6 set. When watching Season 6, I didn't bother swapping out the disc and watching the "movie version" of Chain of Command, I just watched the 2 episodes on the season set. I'll watch the extras on the standalone release later.

It's the same with a possible "All Good Things..." standalone: The appeal will be to those who don't want the full Season 7 set, or those who want the potential exclusive extras. The fact that it doesn't need to be edited into a "movie," isn't likely to factor into anyone's purchasing decision.

One of us is not understanding what the other is writing. The standalone releases have appeal for two reasons:
1. The episode is one of the true standouts throughout the seven seasons.
2. And when they were two part episodes, they have been combined.

So I have idea what you're trying to say why I would buy or not buy. I have ZERO interest in upgrading to blu-ray for any of the TNG season sets. I DO have strong interest in upgrading some select episodes if they select the right ones and include some tasty extras.

And I can see some people buying only the Best of Both Worlds and All Good Things sets if they put them out there. For many they are the only episodes worth owning.

I assume you meant appeal to you. However, how important was reason #2? If, say, on the Best of Both Worlds standalone it had been presented as two distinct episodes, instead of as a single "movie," would that have prevented you from buying it?

You mean with the credits and titles for part two still showing between the episodes? Yes, I would still have purchased the stand alone blu-ray of the two episodes. In fact, I'm pretty sure that when they were released on VHS and DVD as stand alones, that is how they were presented.

Not sure what that has to do with anything, but you have my answer. The key to the interest (not just mine) is that both parts of the two parts episods are there, or it's a collection of the true best of the series.

Just to recap how we got here, PatD claimed this:
To which I replied:
To which you replied:
So PatD claimed that a standalone "All Good Things..." would be a "cash-grab" because it wouldn't have to edit together the episode like the other standalones did, I countered that the editing together of the episodes really wasn't the main reason anyone bought those standalones, and then you replied to my post somewhat cryptically. I'm thinking you may not have gotten this gist of that part of my reply when you quoted and replied to it.

We got here because you didn't understand my "see above" statement. A statement that was to point you to MY earlier comment, not one from PatD. That's what I get for typing "see above" when I should have just repeated the same comment twice in the same reply.

And just for the record, when repeated on different channels in syndication, All Good Things usually plays in two seperated parts.

Well, I'm sure we can all agree that Paramount is a greedy, greedy company and Star Trek fans should be used to being gouged by now.

You're right, I didn't understand your "see above" statement. Your earlier part reply didn't pertain to the editing together of episodes, so I don't know why you quoted that part if you weren't going to actually reply/comment on that aspect of the conversation.

The same happened with Encounter at Farpoint; however the Season One set shows it in its original feature-length form. I think that's what PatD was getting at: That the Season 7 set will likely have "All Good Things..." in its feature-length form, thus depriving any possible standalone release of one of the previous features of them.

^^

Exactly. "Encounter at Farpoint" and "All Good Things..." were both feature length episodes from the get-go. "Farpoint" was in it's original feature length form in the season 1 set as most like "Things..." will also appear in its original feature length form in the season 7 set.
(And yes, in syndicated form they're split into two part episodes.)

It would be totally blatant cash-grab to release "All Good Things..." as a separate release Blu ray with special features when the season 7 Blu ray set has the exact same episode sans the special features.

"The Best of Both Worlds", "Redemption", "Unification" and "Chain of Command" all had the pretense of a reason for a separate feature length release. With "AGT" it would be "Ha ha! You want the special features for 'All Good Things...? Well, you have to buy the separate BD!"

That would suck HARD.

Yeah, far be it from Paramount to make a cash grab.

Well get ready for it. There are far too many that would want it alone for them not to release it seperately. Maybe to get some people to chill , the will put the same special features on both the S7 and seperate AGT release.

But I doubt it, greedy bastards.

Can they do a cash grab on remasters of the movies now? They've bled the Abrams movies and TNG dry at this point.

Actually I did, just confusingly, but at this point it's probably best just to drop it.

Not until they gouge us with true remasters of the director's cuts of I-VI! I actually want those!

That was a pretty thin pretense, and I'm not sure anyone ever fell for it. People were buying those releases for the bonus features or instead of the season sets. Another advantage for some of them (Best of Both Worlds and Redemption) was that you could buy the one disc instead of having to buy two separate season sets to see both episodes.

For what it's worth, the people in charge of producing the special features say that the ones on the standalone releases would never have been made if it weren't for the standalone releases allowing for extra budget to produce them:
http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Star...AM_controversy