Star Wars
#4401
DVD Talk Hall of Fame
#4402
DVD Talk Legend
#4403
Re: Star Wars
That scene looks even more maclunkey than it previously did.
#4404
DVD Talk Hall of Fame
#4405
DVD Talk Gold Edition
Re: Star Wars
It just means the marketing team at Disney have created a cheap way to promote their brand and keep people talking until the new movie comes out. According to this post, it seems to be working quite well.
Last edited by orangerunner; 11-12-19 at 02:42 PM.
#4406
DVD Talk Legend
Re: Star Wars
I see a few vendors on eBay are selling the "Despecialized" trilogy on Blu-ray. You have to wonder how long they can continue to sell these obviously unlicensed versions.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Star-Wars-O...sAAOSwxmddcwk-
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Star-Wars-O...sAAOSwxmddcwk-
#4407
DVD Talk Legend
Re: Star Wars
Disney didn't do this change. There's no reason for it, since it could've potentially pissed off fans and George Lucas alike. On the other hand, George Lucas sneaking in some last minute changes before selling off his studio makes perfect sense.
#4408
DVD Talk Hall of Fame
Re: Star Wars
Apparently Sebulba in TPM said "maclunkey" which means "This'll be the end of you" or something.
#4409
DVD Talk Legend
#4411
DVD Talk Legend
Re: Star Wars
The discs released in September were the exact same disc masters as the old Fox discs. They even still have the Fox FBI warning.
https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Star-...7/#UserReviews
There's a lot of discussion on the blu-ray.com forum about the Disney+ versions. Aside from the Greedo change, it looks like these are the 4K Lowry remasters done in 2012. They're available in UHD with HDR on the service.
A screenshot comparison:
Luke - Frame Comparison - Screenshot Comparison made easy
Also, people are saying the image looks comparable to this Reliance MediaWorks Image Processing Demo Reel from a few years ago. check out the clips at 0:12, 0:43, 0:58, 1:24 and a few shots in the ending montage at 1:50 .
https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Star-...7/#UserReviews
Nothing new.....
I bought this movie, along with Empire, Jedi and the prequels. It is the first time being released under Disney. The packaging is fantastic. Epic even. They even put cool pics on the discs as well. Unfortunately the material on the disc are the same as before, right down to the FBI warning [FOX] and the menus. Really Mouse house??? I know the Fox releases were excellent, but come on......
I bought this movie, along with Empire, Jedi and the prequels. It is the first time being released under Disney. The packaging is fantastic. Epic even. They even put cool pics on the discs as well. Unfortunately the material on the disc are the same as before, right down to the FBI warning [FOX] and the menus. Really Mouse house??? I know the Fox releases were excellent, but come on......
A screenshot comparison:
Luke - Frame Comparison - Screenshot Comparison made easy
Also, people are saying the image looks comparable to this Reliance MediaWorks Image Processing Demo Reel from a few years ago. check out the clips at 0:12, 0:43, 0:58, 1:24 and a few shots in the ending montage at 1:50 .
#4412
Re: Star Wars
No. The new bds are just the old bds repackaged. The transfers on Disney+ are the 4k scans allegedly done for the 3d versions that never happened. Other than the Greedo scene, there are other minor tweaks. The color grading is also worlds better than the garbage dvds/bds, even if they're still not quite right in some spots.
Edit: Another major piece of evidence that these are new scans (not that anyone's doubting this fact) is that the reel in RotJ that was scanned out of focus in the DVDs and bds looks correct now.
Edit: Another major piece of evidence that these are new scans (not that anyone's doubting this fact) is that the reel in RotJ that was scanned out of focus in the DVDs and bds looks correct now.
#4413
DVD Talk Hall of Fame
Re: Star Wars

#4414
DVD Talk Legend
Re: Star Wars
so weird the shit they tinker with in these movies.
#4417
DVD Talk Legend
Re: Star Wars
Because George Lucas wanted these changes, and Lucasfilm/Disney isn't going to piss off George Lucas, since there's still a lot of fans that revere him as the creator of Star Wars.
I think putting the originals as a "bonus" on a Blu-ray box set is still likely, but for watching on TV, online purchase, or Disney+, you're going to get his altered versions.
Regarding the new sky: I read that the Lowry 4K restoration was done in anticipation of the 3D re-releases Lucas was planning for each film. What if the new sky is footage that exists in 3D? Like, they were looking at the work to make that scene 3D, realized that they had already cut out and replaced the sky once before, so were like, "screw it, we'll just replace the sky again."
I think putting the originals as a "bonus" on a Blu-ray box set is still likely, but for watching on TV, online purchase, or Disney+, you're going to get his altered versions.
Regarding the new sky: I read that the Lowry 4K restoration was done in anticipation of the 3D re-releases Lucas was planning for each film. What if the new sky is footage that exists in 3D? Like, they were looking at the work to make that scene 3D, realized that they had already cut out and replaced the sky once before, so were like, "screw it, we'll just replace the sky again."
#4418
DVD Talk Legend
#4419
DVD Talk Hero
#4420
DVD Talk Legend
Re: Star Wars
The Greedo edit is getting attention because it's so odd. It literally makes no sense, unlike the reason Lucas changed the scene in the first place (because he wanted Han to appear less cold-blooded).
#4421
Re: Star Wars
It makes sense in that the edit has always been terrible and with every new version there's been an attempt to make it less terrible. I'm talking about the execution of the edit itself, not the content, which will always be terrible.
#4422
DVD Talk Hero
Re: Star Wars
#4423
DVD Talk Hall of Fame
Re: Star Wars
Lucas' last words on his death bed: They shot at the same time
#4424
Re: Star Wars
The Han Shot First scene is annoying, but the worst change he made to the OT was to have Vader bellow out "nooooooooo" when he throws the Emperor down the shaft. The silence was so perfect in the original, I can't watch the new version because it basically ruins the scene.
#4425
DVD Talk Legend
Re: Star Wars
The Han Shot First scene is annoying, but the worst change he made to the OT was to have Vader bellow out "nooooooooo" when he throws the Emperor down the shaft. The silence was so perfect in the original, I can't watch the new version because it basically ruins the scene.



