Re: Battle Royale (Arrow Releasing)--October 2010?
 

They weren't. They announced the increase in production quickly and publicly. It's not their fault you weren't aware of the change.

On what date did you order your copy?

Re: Battle Royale (Arrow Releasing)--October 2010?
 

Its not like they made a bid on your house and then backed out. Your logic is flawed.

Re: Battle Royale (Arrow Releasing)--October 2010?
 

They underestimated demand. You can say that it was a bait and switch all you want, that doesn't make it true. Trust me, I'm in a better position to make this call than you.

Re: Battle Royale (Arrow Releasing)--October 2010?
 

screenshot of this would be nice

Re: Battle Royale (Arrow Releasing)--October 2010?
 

No, it isn't, because this is an advertising claim. They are trying to sell the set on the premise of its scarcity. This is a product claim made to the consumer and then not delivered.

Oh, so when they reneged on their first promise, they promised not to renege on their second promise? Sounds solid.

Re: Battle Royale (Arrow Releasing)--October 2010?
 

Maybe the salesman is referring to the fact that he could order the truck in red if you want, or repaint it.

Re: Battle Royale (Arrow Releasing)--October 2010?
 

I'm very close to getting suspended, hehehe.

Re: Battle Royale (Arrow Releasing)--October 2010?
 

How can you claim they intended to honor their commitment when they backed out of it, by your own evidence, the day after it was made public?!

Re: Battle Royale (Arrow Releasing)--October 2010?
 

Why do you give a shit what my opinion is on this matter you keep taking great pains to explain is utterly without import? If you so don't care, why don't you just ignore me instead of trying to rebut everything I say?

Re: Battle Royale (Arrow Releasing)--October 2010?
 

Specs for a DVD are selling points too. If a DVD is announced in WS, then later revised to P&S, that's changing a selling point of the DVD. Many people may have pre-ordered the disc on the premise of it being WS. That it was changed sucks, but it was changed before the product had been delivered. If nobody had known about the change until after pre-orders shipped, then that would be different and worthy of complaint.

I guess it depends on whether or not you take an initial announcement for a product as a "promise." Arrow originally had earlier possible release dates for the set too, but had to change them due to production issues. Were people disappointed? Probably. However, nobody accused them of false advertising or "reneging on a promise." Things change, so don't expect anything as final until the product is released.

Now that the set has been released, I expect Arrow to keep their word on the number of pressings. If they don't, then I'll be the first to call them on it (although it wouldn't affect me personally, it'd be just about the principle).

Re: Battle Royale (Arrow Releasing)--October 2010?
 

Doctorossi- I'll give you $15 shipped for your set since its not as cool as it was when it was only 5,000 copies. Let me know.

Re: Battle Royale (Arrow Releasing)--October 2010?
 

And a lot of people might consider that lame, right?

Yes, and considering that Arrow made the decision to go back on their claim, it is indeed good that they at least did so quickly. Although this also makes it tough to imagine they ever took the idea of honoring it very seriously, either.

I do when it has "Limited Edition- Only 5,000 to ever be made!" slapped on it. If you don't mean 5,000, don't say 5,000.

Re: Battle Royale (Arrow Releasing)--October 2010?
 

I just want to say that I could understand the complaints if the amount of the production run was decreased, but right now it seems like he's doing a lot of complaining just to complain.

Re: Battle Royale (Arrow Releasing)--October 2010?
 

"Slapped on" what? The initial announcement? That's the only thing that ever mentioned 5000 copies.

So would you consider, as in my example, an announcement that a DVD will be WS as a "promise" as well? In fact, the initial announcement has to have all the details correct, and be followed to the letter, or else the company is a bunch of dirty liars?

Re: Battle Royale (Arrow Releasing)--October 2010?
 

Again, I really don't need to prove it to you. I was in the middle of a large project with them, and they told me well ahead of the announcement what their intentions were. When I got notice that they decided to change it was an "Oh Fuck!" message, not a "Muahaha" message.

Re: Battle Royale (Arrow Releasing)--October 2010?
 

Or, you could read my comments before responding to them (for no apparent reason) with misdirected snark that only demonstrates that you haven't been paying attention.

That's my counter-offer. Keep the bids coming, but the auction will end soon- it's a limited edition, after all.*





* or is it?

Re: Battle Royale (Arrow Releasing)--October 2010?
 

Since the whole selling point is 'look how few copies exist', decreasing the run would've amounted to an improvement upon their claims.

As for complaining, let me bring you up to speed:

I did a small amount of complaining about something I felt justified to complain a small amount about and then proceeded to explain myself ad nauseum when a handful of people apparently got incensed that I stated my belief that a company should be held to their market claims.

Re: Battle Royale (Arrow Releasing)--October 2010?
 

It isn't like they're making duplicate COA's. I might see your point if they said they were making 5,000 but they are secretly making 10,000.

Re: Battle Royale (Arrow Releasing)--October 2010?
 

And it's also what all the customers responded to when they ordered all those copies that made Arrow turn around and say "Uh-oh, better make twice as many!"

Re: Battle Royale (Arrow Releasing)--October 2010?
 

BTW, that isn't "the whole selling point".

Re: Battle Royale (Arrow Releasing)--October 2010?
 

Well, you're claiming I'm wrong and then failing to back up your claim.

It doesn't have to be a "Muahaha" message to still be a failure to honor their commitment. I'm sure they didn't do it with evil intent, but it does look like they did it with callous disregard.

Re: Battle Royale (Arrow Releasing)--October 2010?
 

That wasn't the "whole selling point" though. You have admitted yourself that you wouldn't have canceled your order had you known, so obviously it's the content of the set that was the main selling point. another major selling point was the price, which was reasonable for any sized Blu-ray release. The fact that it was limited and numbered was little more than probably incentive to buy it sooner rather than later.

No, what happened was you stated an opinion, and several others on this thread disagreed with your opinion and stated so. As you have attempted to justify your opinion to them, they've provided counter arguments. It's called a discussion. If you don't want people to disagree with your opinion, don't post it.

Re: Battle Royale (Arrow Releasing)--October 2010?
 

Dude, I'm talking about the 'whole selling point' of the limited edition numbering, not the 'whole selling point' of the entire release!

Re: Battle Royale (Arrow Releasing)--October 2010?
 

Callous disregard for who? Who got "screwed" by the change? Even you admit that you wouldn't have canceled had you known earlier of the change, and I think you likely would've ordered anyway had you known of the change beforehand.

The people most likely to have gotten "screwed" were those hoarders who pre-ordered multiple copies with the anticipation of selling them off at inflated prices once it sold out. However, even they could've canceled their pre-orders once the run amount had changed.

Re: Battle Royale (Arrow Releasing)--October 2010?
 

It still has limited edition numbering.