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islandclaws 02-19-10 01:56 PM

Re: AVATAR Blu-ray - 4/22/10
 

Originally Posted by GizmoDVD (Post 10007833)
Sure, a Theatrical Cut, but the first BD was loaded. The first Avatar is barebones.

Just because Cameron says so doesn't mean the first release will have ZERO extras. He isn't producing the BD.

RocShemp 02-19-10 02:10 PM

Re: AVATAR Blu-ray - 4/22/10
 

Originally Posted by GizmoDVD (Post 10007833)
Sure, a Theatrical Cut, but the first BD was loaded.

No, it was an extended version of the director's cut. The ultimate cut was 215 minutes long whereas the director's cut was 186 minutes long. And the only feature you lost was the Maximum Movie Mode which was mostly an over-glorified PiP mode.

http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Watchm...y-Review/6269/

Gizmo 02-19-10 02:23 PM

Re: AVATAR Blu-ray - 4/22/10
 

Originally Posted by KillerCannibal (Post 10008064)
Just because Cameron says so doesn't mean the first release will have ZERO extras. He isn't producing the BD.

I'm just going off what Cameron said. Fox has already stated no Avatar 3D in November (which may mean December).

islandclaws 02-19-10 03:10 PM

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I'd be willing to bet the initial release has minimal features, at the least. They wouldn't put out a BD with zero extras for a film this big.

DVD Josh 02-19-10 03:15 PM

Re: AVATAR Blu-ray - 4/22/10
 

Originally Posted by Moopher (Post 10007909)
I should probably make some time to see this movie before it leaves the theater..

It will be soon. When Alice in Wonderland comes out, it will take the Avatar screens.

Gizmo 02-19-10 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by KillerCannibal (Post 10008182)
I'd be willing to bet the initial release has minimal features, at the least. They wouldn't put out a BD with zero extras for a film this big.

How much did Paranormal Activity make ;)

Hey, we make get an awesome Digital Copy!

islandclaws 02-19-10 04:26 PM

Re: AVATAR Blu-ray - 4/22/10
 

Originally Posted by GizmoDVD (Post 10008212)
How much did Paranormal Activity make ;)

Hey, we make get an awesome Digital Copy!

Touche, but I just can't see them doing that with Avatar.

I better at least get a Digital Copy!

Drexl 02-19-10 04:36 PM

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They may do it like LOTR, making the majority of extras promotional in nature on the first release, while doing in-depth features for the later release.

snausages 02-19-10 07:57 PM

Re: AVATAR Blu-ray - 4/22/10
 

Originally Posted by RocShemp (Post 10006937)
Not yet (at least none that has been made publicly available) but soon. Last I read the PS3 is getting two updates. The first is for games (which Sony claims most are already compatible but I'm sure each game will require a minor update of their own to assign a second "camera") and later down the road it'll get an update for 3D movies.

Thanks GizmoDVD and RocShemp. I think I will wait to see if they put out a new PS3 player or until someone does a comparison of the 3D Blu-ray player versus PS3 updates to compare the difference. I am still curious how much these 3D TVs will cost. That will be my ultimate deciding factor :)

rdclark 02-21-10 02:10 PM

Re: AVATAR Blu-ray - 4/22/10
 

Originally Posted by lizard (Post 10007873)
I wonder if Avatar might be that rare movie that continues to play on a small number of screens even after the DVD/BD release. Seeing it at home in on a TV in 2D will not be the same as 3D on the big screen and there might be enough fans to keep some theatrical showings going. With a Box Office take of $2.389 billion, this movie isn't exactly typical.

I was thinking that it would be re-released as a 3D theatrical "event" -- perhaps with "scenes! you've! never! seen! before!" -- around next Christmas, before the 3D disc is released. Fox's quick denial of a November release just helps fuel this speculation.

Dr. DVD 02-21-10 02:24 PM

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Any chance we might get some of Cameron's other works on Blu-Ray, since Avatar is a bona-fide hit? I remember him saying that once he finished Avatar he was going to work on remasters of The Abyss and True Lies.

Drexl 02-21-10 04:04 PM

Re: AVATAR Blu-ray - 4/22/10
 

Originally Posted by Dr. DVD (Post 10010859)
Any chance we might get some of Cameron's other works on Blu-Ray, since Avatar is a bona-fide hit? I remember him saying that once he finished Avatar he was going to work on remasters of The Abyss and True Lies.

Well, we know Aliens is coming. Apparently, The Abyss has had an HD transfer done and it's just waiting for his approval.

Solid Snake 02-21-10 06:16 PM

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True Lies too!! Please jam pack the shit out of True Lies.

Mr. Cinema 02-21-10 06:42 PM

Re: AVATAR Blu-ray - 4/22/10
 

Originally Posted by Dr. DVD (Post 10010859)
Any chance we might get some of Cameron's other works on Blu-Ray, since Avatar is a bona-fide hit? I remember him saying that once he finished Avatar he was going to work on remasters of The Abyss and True Lies.

I really hope True Lies makes its BD debut this year. The Abyss has been mentioned as a likely title this year.

RocShemp 02-21-10 06:55 PM

Re: AVATAR Blu-ray - 4/22/10
 

Originally Posted by solid snake pac (Post 10011181)
true lies too!! Please jam pack the shit out of true lies.

+1

Solid Snake 02-21-10 07:03 PM

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Man, I bought the nonanamorphic DVD less than a year ago cuz I just coudn't take not having this. EVEN in it's non anamorphic state the film soooo much fun. Awesome humor and action. To me that was the last good Arnold flick.

rexinnih 02-22-10 08:26 AM

Re: AVATAR Blu-ray - 4/22/10
 

Originally Posted by RocShemp (Post 10011234)
+1

In for this also (if it comes out)

Verra 02-22-10 12:09 PM

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I'll get both versions for the sake of having it!

slop101 02-23-10 08:13 PM

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FWIW, the screener is in 1:78, so it's a safe bet that the official releases will be too.

CertifiedTHX 02-24-10 03:21 AM

Re: AVATAR Blu-ray - 4/22/10
 

Originally Posted by slop101 (Post 10015327)
FWIW, the screener is in 1:78, so it's a safe bet that the official releases will be too.

After having seen it now in flat (3-D) and scope (2-D), I wouldn't object to a 1.78:1 aspect ratio on the home video release. The framing in several scenes felt a little tight in 2.35:1.

My suspicion, though, is that the 2-D release will be 2.35:1, and the 3-D, whenever it happens, will be 1.78:1. Information I've seen suggests that those would be Cameron's preferences.

--THX

Drexl 02-24-10 03:38 AM

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Well, here are IMDB's reported aspect ratios:

1.78 : 1 (IMAX 3-D version) (2K 3-D version: constant image width venues)
2.35 : 1 (2-D version) (2K 3-D version: constant image height venues)

It seems that the film was just presented with the largest image a given screen could handle. Many traditional 2D theaters have 2.35:1 screens, so a movie in that ratio takes up more real estate than it would at 1.78:1. If that's the reasoning, he would probably prefer 1.78:1 for home video, although he may also want to do a 2.35:1 version for CIH setups.

Otherwise, I don't understand why one ratio would be preferred for 2D and another for 3D.

Josh Z 02-24-10 09:27 AM

Re: AVATAR Blu-ray - 4/22/10
 

Originally Posted by Drexl (Post 10015886)
Well, here are IMDB's reported aspect ratios:

1.78 : 1 (IMAX 3-D version) (2K 3-D version: constant image width venues)
2.35 : 1 (2-D version) (2K 3-D version: constant image height venues)

It seems that the film was just presented with the largest image a given screen could handle. Many traditional 2D theaters have 2.35:1 screens, so a movie in that ratio takes up more real estate than it would at 1.78:1. If that's the reasoning, he would probably prefer 1.78:1 for home video, although he may also want to do a 2.35:1 version for CIH setups.

Otherwise, I don't understand why one ratio would be preferred for 2D and another for 3D.

All 2-D prints of the movie are 2.35:1. Cameron has stated that he prefers the 2.35:1 composition for 2-D. I would expect the initial Blu-ray to be 2.35:1.

Only the 3-D version is being distributed in alternate ratios. In this case, Cameron says that he prefers 1.85:1 for 3-D because the extra height is more immersive. But, theatrically, auditoriums are instructed to project whichever one will be larger on their screens.

I expect the eventual 3-D Blu-ray to be 16:9.

slop101 02-24-10 10:03 AM

Re: AVATAR Blu-ray - 4/22/10
 

Originally Posted by Josh Z (Post 10016156)
All 2-D prints of the movie are 2.35:1. Cameron has stated that he prefers the 2.35:1 composition for 2-D. I would expect the initial Blu-ray to be 2.35:1.

Then why is the DVD screener 1:78?

Also, in this instance with this movie, 2:35 would be cropped, losing information in the top and bottom of the image. It's like having a widescreen transfer of a 1:33 movie. Since every widescreen TV is 1:78, why would he crop and make the image smaller?

gryffinmaster 02-24-10 10:10 AM

Re: AVATAR Blu-ray - 4/22/10
 

Originally Posted by slop101 (Post 10016224)
Then why is the DVD screener 1:78?

Fox have sent out DVD screeners before that weren't the same aspect ratio as the final product. The Seeker comes to mind, which was 1.78:1 on the screener and 2.35:1 with the final product.

The Lizard King 02-24-10 10:12 AM

Re: AVATAR Blu-ray - 4/22/10
 

Originally Posted by slop101 (Post 10016224)
Then why is the DVD screener 1:78?

Also, in this instance with this movie, 2:35 would be cropped, losing information in the top and bottom of the image. It's like having a widescreen transfer of a 1:33 movie. Since every widescreen TV is 1:78, why would he crop and make the image smaller?

I don't know if I could watch a movie at the 1:78, 2:35, or 1:33 aspect ratio. Those seem awfully tall and narrow to me. I'm so glad that I don't own a single one of those aspect ratios in my collection.

TLK :cool:


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