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Re: AVATAR Blu-ray - 4/22/10
Originally Posted by The Lizard King
(Post 10016247)
I don't know if I could watch a movie at the 1:78, 2:35, or 1:33 aspect ratio. Those seem awfully tall and narrow to me. I'm so glad that I don't own a single one of those aspect ratios in my collection.
TLK :cool: So you basically don't own anything? |
Re: AVATAR Blu-ray - 4/22/10
Originally Posted by slop101
(Post 10015327)
FWIW, the screener is in 1:78, so it's a safe bet that the official releases will be too.
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Re: AVATAR Blu-ray - 4/22/10
Originally Posted by The Lizard King
(Post 10016247)
I don't know if I could watch a movie at the 1:78, 2:35, or 1:33 aspect ratio. Those seem awfully tall and narrow to me. I'm so glad that I don't own a single one of those aspect ratios in my collection.
TLK :cool: |
Re: AVATAR Blu-ray - 4/22/10
Originally Posted by slop101
(Post 10016224)
Then why is the DVD screener 1:78?
Also, in this instance with this movie, 2:35 would be cropped, losing information in the top and bottom of the image. It's like having a widescreen transfer of a 1:33 movie. Since every widescreen TV is 1:78, why would he crop and make the image smaller? |
Re: AVATAR Blu-ray - 4/22/10
Originally Posted by slop101
(Post 10016224)
Then why is the DVD screener 1:78?
Also, in this instance with this movie, 2:35 would be cropped, losing information in the top and bottom of the image. It's like having a widescreen transfer of a 1:33 movie. Since every widescreen TV is 1:78, why would he crop and make the image smaller? Cameron has stated that he composed the 2-D version for 2.35:1. |
Re: AVATAR Blu-ray - 4/22/10
Originally Posted by Kory
(Post 10016600)
Lol... what?
So you basically don't own anything? A 1:33 picture would look like this: --------------------------------- |
Re: AVATAR Blu-ray - 4/22/10
Originally Posted by Josh Z
(Post 10016762)
The aspect ratios are 1.33:1, 1.78:1, or 2.35:1.
A 1:33 picture would look like this: --------------------------------- |
Re: AVATAR Blu-ray - 4/22/10
Originally Posted by Josh Z
(Post 10016762)
The aspect ratios are 1.33:1, 1.78:1, or 2.35:1.
A 1:33 picture would look like this: --------------------------------- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - TLK :cool: |
Re: AVATAR Blu-ray - 4/22/10
Originally Posted by Kory
(Post 10016600)
Lol... what?
So you basically don't own anything? TLK :cool: |
Re: AVATAR Blu-ray - 4/22/10
Originally Posted by Josh Z
(Post 10016759)
Most of Fox's DVD screeners have "PROPERTY OF 20TH CENTURY FOX. DO NOT ATTEMPT TO COPY OR WE WILL SUE YOUR ASS INTO THE STONE AGE AND TAKE OUT A CONTRACT ON YOUR LIFE, YOU SCUMBAG PIRATE" watermarks plastered all over the video, and no bonus features. That doesn't have any bearing on what the final consumer product will be like.
Originally Posted by Josh Z
(Post 10016759)
Cameron has stated that he composed the 2-D theatrical version for 2.35:1.
He has said nothing about the home version. And it's ridiculous to assume he would crop the image to a 2:35 for a canvas that's 1:78. The whole point of a scope aspect is that it's bigger and wider, not more squat. What you're suggesting is reverse pan-n-scan. |
Re: AVATAR Blu-ray - 4/22/10
Lmao. My fault, TLK. I just glanced over what you wrote so quickly I didn't notice what was obviously wrong with it.
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Re: AVATAR Blu-ray - 4/22/10
Originally Posted by slop101
(Post 10017169)
If that's the sort of example you wan to use, then you just proved my point since Fox screeners also never get the aspect ratio wrong either.
fixed He has said nothing about the home version. And it's ridiculous to assume he would crop the image to a 2:35 for a canvas that's 1:78. The whole point of a scope aspect is that it's bigger and wider, not more squat. What you're suggesting is reverse pan-n-scan. |
Re: AVATAR Blu-ray - 4/22/10
Originally Posted by RocShemp
(Post 10017207)
Then you must hate every BD/DVD copy of movies shot in Super35.
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Re: AVATAR Blu-ray - 4/22/10
Here, would you rather have this on your TV:
Spoiler:
or this: Spoiler:
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Re: AVATAR Blu-ray - 4/22/10
The former. The framing is tighter,with less unused space at the top and bottom of the frame. Your attention is focused more on the characters.
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Re: AVATAR Blu-ray - 4/22/10
Originally Posted by slop101
(Post 10017418)
Here, would you rather have this on your TV:
Spoiler:
or this: Spoiler:
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Re: AVATAR Blu-ray - 4/22/10
It's just an approximation.
Originally Posted by Mr. Salty
(Post 10017529)
The former. The framing is tighter,with less unused space at the top and bottom of the frame. Your attention is focused more on the characters.
If you saw it on Imax, did you put your hands up to cover those parts of the screen? That's how ridiculous you sound - contrary just for the sake of it. How about these Spoiler:
Keep in mind, these are both the approved theatrical ARs for Avatar. Regardless, on most TVs it's almost like the difference between squinting and not squinting, and you think squinting looks better. |
Re: AVATAR Blu-ray - 4/22/10
Originally Posted by slop101
(Post 10017760)
It's just an approximation.
Well then if it is released in 1:78, I hope you put black mattes on your screen to cover up the superfluous parts of the image. If you saw it on Imax, did you put your hands up to cover those parts of the screen? That's how ridiculous you sound - contrary just for the sake of it. How about these Spoiler:
Keep in mind, these are both the approved theatrical ARs for Avatar. Regardless, on most TVs it's almost like the difference between squinting and not squinting, and you think squinting looks better. http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_byRmVzqqw9...atar-Ratio.jpg |
Re: AVATAR Blu-ray - 4/22/10
Exactly. slop101's aren't useful for any valid comparison. We need actual screenshots from the movie in both aspect ratios to make a valid comparison.
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Re: AVATAR Blu-ray - 4/22/10
Originally Posted by slop101
(Post 10017760)
Well then if it is released in 1:78, I hope you put black mattes on your screen to cover up the superfluous parts of the image.
If you saw it on Imax, did you put your hands up to cover those parts of the screen? That's how ridiculous you sound - contrary just for the sake of it. IMAX is a very different experience from how you watch a movie at home. In an IMAX presentation of "Avatar," a great deal of the unmatted image is deliberately intended to be in your peripheral vision, not the focus of your attention. That will not be the case when watching the movie at home. The framing of the image is different because how you watch it is different. Argue all you want, but Cameron has said he framed the movie for 1.78:1 (not 1:78) for 3D and IMAX and 2.35:1 for 2D and home viewing. There is a reason for that. |
Re: AVATAR Blu-ray - 4/22/10
Yeah, a little wide there. But I'm with you, I'd prefer the 1.78 for home viewing. Maybe they'll do like they did for the theatrical release(s) and give us both for the 2D and eventual 3D release.
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Re: AVATAR Blu-ray - 4/22/10
Originally Posted by RocShemp
(Post 10017840)
Exactly. slop101's aren't useful for any valid comparison. We need actual screenshots from the movie in both aspect ratios to make a valid comparison.
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Re: AVATAR Blu-ray - 4/22/10
Originally Posted by Kram Sacul
(Post 17970060)
It's all crop friendly.
Spoiler:
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Re: AVATAR Blu-ray - 4/22/10
Spoiler:
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http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...&postcount=118 Spoiler:
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http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...&postcount=119 |
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