The Criterion Collection 4K/Blu-ray Discussion and Release Thread
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That sucks about the packaging. You know, the few Criterion BD digi-packs I own all feel flimsy and cheap. Maybe Criterion just sucks at making digi-packs, lol. I think I'm going to pass on this release, unfortunately. I already own Warner's BD of Enter the Dragon and have the Shout BD double feature of Fist of Fury/The Big Boss. Way of the Dragon I haven't seen in probably over a decade, but I recall being kinda bored with it. Game of Death and Game of Death 2 I don't care about; I've seen both and don't think either one was a good movie.
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Amazon had this on sale for $62.49 the last few days. I had some credit which brought it down to $45, so that's fine with me that the set is like that.
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Too bad they couldn't have done something along the lines of the Karel Zeman 'pop-up' box, where each time you flipped the 'page' to a new movie, a cut-out of Bruce Lee or his fists or feet would literally spring off the page.
They'd surely need to create an outer shell box that was a lot sturdier than the Zeman set, though, as that one's easily crushed if it's not shipped in a box.
They'd surely need to create an outer shell box that was a lot sturdier than the Zeman set, though, as that one's easily crushed if it's not shipped in a box.
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My Bruce Lee set is scheduled to come on Tuesday.
and that's it on Bruce Lee for me. The well has completely run dry on his content.
and that's it on Bruce Lee for me. The well has completely run dry on his content.
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For me and Bruce, next stop is possibly 4K disc, should anyone in Asia get to that - and that the remaster is a significant improvement. But that’s a slim chance based on every remaster we’ve seen on these movies.
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How faithful are those Blu-ray.com alerts when Amazon has for preorder. They should have it soon, no?
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I think I can live without having his appearances as Kato on any format. Maybe.
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Anyone see this?

Wondering how it is as movie, presentation. All 5’s at Blu-ray.com and seems really good.

Wondering how it is as movie, presentation. All 5’s at Blu-ray.com and seems really good.
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COME AND SEE is one of the most consistently horrific, bleak and depressing war (or anti-war) films ever made, but it’s also one of the most important. It’s about real Nazi genocides in Russia, so it’s tough viewing, and utterly (and rightly) hopeless in its view of mankind. That said, I think it’s a phenomenal film. And I’m hopeful this is a huge improvement over the ancient Kino edition.
I always thought the opening of Roger Ebert’s review was nicely put:
I always thought the opening of Roger Ebert’s review was nicely put:
It's said that you can't make an effective anti-war film because war by its nature is exciting, and the end of the film belongs to the survivors. No one would ever make the mistake of saying that about Elem Klimov's "Come and See." This 1985 film from Russia is one of the most devastating films ever about anything, and in it, the survivors must envy the dead.
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wow. sounds great about Come and See. i look forward to it now...
up for preorder. At $30 now, but i'm sure will go down...this will be pinnacle of my Criterion Collection. Can't wait!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
up for preorder. At $30 now, but i'm sure will go down...this will be pinnacle of my Criterion Collection. Can't wait!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Come and See is one of the best war films ever made. Very honest and brutal film that doesn't glamorize the horrors of man's inhumanity.
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The Thin Red Line is much more poetic and despite showing the horrors of war, it also has tons of little segments that show the beauty of nature and whatnot. Occasionally, it flows at a somewhat lyrical pace...Come and See is just absolutely, unrelentingly brutal, and just a really difficult film to watch. Especially the ending. As other's have pointed out, the film just doesn't pull any punches.
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^ and your pick would be? My store ran out of C&S when i stopped by earlier today. Did get the Eric Rohmer Set and Until the End of the World.
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My Bruce Lee set arrived today. Yeah the packaging is disappointing considering the MSRP. Very flimsy looking set.
The Shout set also had shitty packaging. I'm sure the content is going to be great, but Criterion dropped the ball here on the packaging.
The Shout set also had shitty packaging. I'm sure the content is going to be great, but Criterion dropped the ball here on the packaging.
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So is Come and See like 1x viewing?
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Come and See is a good movie, but I definitely had some issues with the acting. It also could've used some tighter editing.
But yea, I don't think it's something that has much replay value.
But yea, I don't think it's something that has much replay value.
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Guess I'll take up a somewhat contrary position here and say that I think COME AND SEE does have replay value, albeit with the viewings spaced apart, perhaps. And Criterion's extras appear to contextualize the film -- and the devastating real-life Nazi invasion of Belarus -- better than any previous edition. Personally I think it's a better and more important film than THIN RED LINE, but I'm biased as I think Terrence Malick is a remarkable artist but not worthy of the deification he often receives. COME AND SEE is a beautifully made show, less pretentious than Malick's picture while still offering moments of visual and thematically poetry, but it's still a very intense experience, and not to all tastes.
I'm not one for posting YouTube videos of armchair analysts, but this is an interesting overview. It's a bit spoiler-laden, though, especially after the 12-minute mark, so proceed with caution.
I'm not one for posting YouTube videos of armchair analysts, but this is an interesting overview. It's a bit spoiler-laden, though, especially after the 12-minute mark, so proceed with caution.
Spoiler:
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Seems like everyone on the forum has seen C&S (except me).
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Interesting parallel to DANCER IN THE DARK. I have a similar reaction to most of Von Trier's films (except for ZENTROPA). They're usually fascinating to watch but once is enough, partly because it often feels like he's pushing easy 'transgressive' buttons to stay relevant. Klimov, on the other hand, simply depicts an awful period as realistically as one could in Russia in 1985. The psychological brutality in COME AND SEE is front and centre in the character of the boy aging beyond his years, while the physical brutality, I think, pales in comparison to the carnage displayed in most modern war films made since then, with their blood and limbs and guts spraying every which way because the filmmakers think that's the only way a distracted contemporary audience will get the message. Even at that, I'm still more likely to get this version of COME AND SEE from the library first, mainly for the supplements.
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Speaking of von Trier, I still have to watch my copy of Breaking The Waves.
Meanwhile, I'll maybe prep for it with a double feature of Come And See and Army Of Shadows...
Bleak is right up my alley these days.
Meanwhile, I'll maybe prep for it with a double feature of Come And See and Army Of Shadows...
Bleak is right up my alley these days.




