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Old 07-22-20 | 09:14 PM
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I'll watch Come and See when it hits the Criterion Channel.
Old 07-22-20 | 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Why So Blu?
I'll watch Come and See when it hits the Criterion Channel.
It's already there. Or is it one of the odd films that are only available to Canadians?

I'm not sure that I want to put myself through it, right now. I've already watched a number of pretty dark films, recently, and this sounds like it'll put those to shame.
Old 07-22-20 | 09:26 PM
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It's there for 'merica too. Added it to my list yesterday.
Old 07-22-20 | 09:32 PM
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i'm getting tomorrow. i'm not sure what kinda mood i got to be in to watch this. i'm eager to, don't get me wrong, but hard, real material, always gets me...
Old 07-22-20 | 11:12 PM
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Really, only the final 30 minutes of C&S is where the eye-opening moments occur. It's not like the film is unwatchable from start to finish. In fact, it seems more akin to Ivan's Childhood, and even that one had a more unhappier ending than this film.
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Old 07-23-20 | 12:49 AM
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So Come and See would not be considered a part of the dominant cheesy 80’s films i take it...
Old 07-24-20 | 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by davidlynchfan
Seems like everyone on the forum has seen C&S (except me).
I haven't seen it.

Definitely am curious about it mostly because of how excited people are about its release on Blu-Ray.
Old 07-24-20 | 06:26 PM
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geez, now i don't even want to see it. i don't want to be brutal slapped in the face over and over. not right now that is...
Old 07-24-20 | 07:32 PM
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How’s Wildlife, movie and extras? It’s got good actors, Dano as director. Wondering if good package overall? More palpable than Come and See, I assume. At least more replayability?
Old 07-26-20 | 02:05 PM
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I got the Bruce Lee set from Amazon. I agree with the sentiment that the packaging isn't commensurate with the MSRP. On the other hand, it's not that awful and is better than Legacy Collection packaging. I'll still probably make custom covers and put the set in regular Criterion cases, when I can muster the motivation.

Some scattered thoughts on the set:
  • A quick spot check of the movies shows they look excellent, though I'm certain the Hong Kong films are using the same transfers as the most recent Shout! releases. This is as good as I expect these movies to ever look and I'm ok with that.
  • I did a really brief comparison of the Mandarin and Cantonese mono tracks on a couple of the movies. The mix on the Cantonese track seemed much more bass heavy and less balanced than the Mandarin track.
  • I watched a couple of the Criterion-exclusive extras with Matthew Polly talking about each film and they're pretty solid. I actually learned a couple of things I didn't know before.
  • I still dislike how every release of Bruce Lee's movies, including this one, treats Game of Death as part of the "official" canon, when it's an exploitative hack job. The new special feature about Brucesploitation movies even covers it as one of the awful offenders in the genre, so why is it included here as one of his Greatest Hits? (I know, it's the iconic track suit. ) Rather than including Game of Death here as one of the Greatest Hits, I'd rather have seen a special features disc dedicated to delving deeply into Bruce Lee's original vision for Game of Death and relegating the 1978 Game of Death to an "extra" like Game of Death II is treated.
  • On a related note, I watched some of Game of Death Redux. It's probably the best presentation we're going to get of Bruce Lee's completed footage from Game of Death, though the image quality and vocal performances seemed a little uneven.
All in all, I'm happy with the set. It's cool having everything together in one cohesive set with a great presentation and the new extras Criterion put together are pretty interesting so far.
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Old 07-27-20 | 08:25 PM
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I picked up the Bruce Lee set, The Great Escape and Tokyo Olympiad during the Criterion sale and all 3 are relatively new releases.

I went through some of Tokyo Olympiad last night and I'm really impressed with the added content. It's a very long film and it's entirely in Japanese with subtitles, so I need to be in the right mindset to watch it.

Old 07-27-20 | 08:33 PM
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I went through some of Tokyo Olympiad last night and I'm really impressed with the added content. It's a very long film and it's entirely in Japanese with subtitles, so I need to be in the right mindset to watch it.
Reminder for those on the fence, Tokyo Olympiad is on HBO Max, a much cheaper way to watch it if you’re not planning on making it part of your permanent collection.

Old 07-28-20 | 12:50 PM
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  • On a related note, I watched some of Game of Death Redux. It's probably the best presentation we're going to get of Bruce Lee's completed footage from Game of Death, though the image quality and vocal performances seemed a little uneven.
This is the 3rd Re-edit I've seen of the completed Game/Death footage and I don't know why this particular redux was necessary. The first one, I believe, was available on HKL's Platinum Edition of Game/Death with Bey Logan supplying the voice of Bruce (And doing a commendable job, imo) the 2nd (And most widely seen) was in Warrior's Journey which first appeared on AMC and later imported to the 35th Anniversary release of Enter/Dragon. As far as the voices & music goes, that one is certainly the best. Most notably, the horror element that's provided when James Tien encounters Kareem.

While on the Game/Death tip, I was pleased to see that Criterion ended up choosing the U.S. Cut of Game of Death II for this set. I've got the HKL release of that movie, but was surprised to see that a few scenes were removed (The Greenhouse fight & Bruce's funeral) as well as containing a lifted score from Les Baxter's Dunwich Horror...Which still fits the film very well. But all of my 80's video rental-store memories came roaring back as soon as I heard that original score return in the opening credits of this Criterion release.

One concerning moment I had with this set was that I briefly gave a peek to the commentaries (In Way/Dragon & Game/Death) and they sounded like they were skype quality! I really hope they don't sound like that all the way through!
Old 07-28-20 | 12:54 PM
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There was a "Game of Death Revisited" feature in the Shout Collectors edition of Game of Death from a couple of years ago and from what I recall it was pretty damn similar to Redux and the AMC version.

I watched Redux on the Criterion the other night and honestly I really couldn't tell the differences.
Old 07-28-20 | 12:57 PM
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I really lucked out with the Bruce Lee set. Called the closest B&N the day it came out. Was told all their copies had already been pre-ordered. Several hours later, I went to get a few other titles and there just happened to be one set left. Maybe a return or it was never claimed. Who cares, I got it.

The only Lee film I've really seen is Enter the Dragon. So it's almost all new to me.

But I'm still thinking about the Olympic set. I know I'll love it for the history and the sport, but how much unwatched content do I need to work through already?
Old 07-28-20 | 02:26 PM
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Come and See...sure got a high review here and high replayability.
Old 07-28-20 | 09:40 PM
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Come and See...sure got a high review here and high replayability.
"The 1985 war film Come and See is a difficult watch, but arguably a necessary one. "

Usually when I find something a difficult watch, I don't consider it to have much replay value. But maybe that's just me.
Old 07-28-20 | 10:02 PM
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No, I agree. I don’t have a hankering to see Schindler’s List for a 3rd time.
Old 07-29-20 | 07:52 AM
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Seems like if you’re a film reviewer then you have to give Holocaust type movies high marks...it’s an unwritten rule.
Old 07-29-20 | 11:44 AM
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^what an asinine comment.
Also, no:
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1722426/
Old 07-29-20 | 07:21 PM
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Haha, Uwe Boll. That's like bringing a knife to a gunfight. The plastic butter with no sharp edge type.
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Originally Posted by davidlynchfan
Seems like if you’re a film reviewer then you have to give Holocaust type movies high marks...it’s an unwritten rule.
Originally Posted by Dan
^what an asinine comment.
Also, no:
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1722426/
yeah, what the hell does that even mean? Where is it unwritten? In your mind? A lot of them are good, sure, but reviewers review, without bias, prejudice or care of religion. Many are done well, that’s all. Like Dan mentioned and I’m sure others were stinkers despite subject matter...
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Old 08-11-20 | 07:46 PM
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Coming November 24th:



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Old 08-11-20 | 08:07 PM
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Looks like a sweet set - thought I already have on blu the movies in that set I want, and I don't really care for the rest.

I would give my left nut for a similar (or bigger) Kurosawa set though, even if I already own most of the movies.
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Newsletter is out, The Irishman is coming in November.
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