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Old 02-17-16 | 11:28 AM
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How about a Short Cuts re-release on blu?


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I'm sort of surprised at the lack of upgrades so far for 2016. Only one in the first five months.
Still waiting for Europa and The Human Condition.
Old 02-23-16 | 02:02 PM
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Old 02-23-16 | 02:05 PM
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Picked up Mulholland Drive, The Graduate, Lady Snowbird Collection, and The American Friend.
Old 02-23-16 | 03:12 PM
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I scooped up The American Friend, Llweyn Davis, and Every Man For Himself.
Old 02-23-16 | 03:25 PM
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Lady Snowblood, The Graduate and La Dolce Vita, gotta get free shipping
Old 02-23-16 | 04:06 PM
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Inside Llewyn Davis, The Graduate, The Fisher King. Had that $10 promo in my account still. Can't do much better than the Coen Bros, Mike Nichols and Terry Gilliam. Not bad for $49.97 shipped.
Old 02-23-16 | 04:41 PM
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looking forward to this release of The Graduate. sounds like it it is stellar all around...
Old 02-23-16 | 06:21 PM
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I am slightly confused re the Graduate's release. Was the Criterion edition in the works before Nichols died? as the specs mention "The color timing was done by referencing a high-definition master supervised by Grover Crisp at Sony Pictures and approved by director Mike Nichols" Does that mean the color timing was approved before he died on an older HD master (as they restored the original negative) Same w the audio, as it mentions he supervised the 5.1 remix. I take it he approved the original remix that was done i think in 2006?
Old 02-23-16 | 07:43 PM
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The discs were pressed before he died, so yeah, pretty sure he was around to approve the new master.
Old 02-23-16 | 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by slop101
The discs were pressed before he died, so yeah, pretty sure he was around to approve the new master.
The discs have been pressed since November 2014?

I think the wording on the notes is just confusing. I read it as meaning that Grover Crisp color timed this new transfer and he based his work on an older hd master that had been approved by Mike Nichols. It's either that or Criterion has been sitting on this new transfer for a long time, which isn't totally out of the question.
Old 02-24-16 | 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by rocket1312
I think the wording on the notes is just confusing. I read it as meaning that Grover Crisp color timed this new transfer and he based his work on an older hd master that had been approved by Mike Nichols. It's either that or Criterion has been sitting on this new transfer for a long time, which isn't totally out of the question.
I think it more likely that Sony sat on the transfer and only recently decided to license it to Criterion - or that contract negotiations between Sony and Criterion took a long time to work out.

It's my understanding that Grover Crisp has been actively working to remaster as much of Sony's catalog as possible, regardless of whether or not the studio has immediate plans to release those titles on disc.
Old 02-24-16 | 10:41 AM
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I think it more likely that Sony sat on the transfer and only recently decided to license it to Criterion - or that contract negotiations between Sony and Criterion took a long time to work out.

It's my understanding that Grover Crisp has been actively working to remaster as much of Sony's catalog as possible, regardless of whether or not the studio has immediate plans to release those titles on disc.
After reading the blurb again, I think that this is a new 4k scan/restoration and that Criterion color timed this new master by referencing an older HD master that Mike Nichols and Grover Crisp had approved some indeterminate amount of time ago.

edit to add: going by the dvdbeaver screencaps, the color timing on the new Criterion BD seems to match the 40th Anniversary dvd the closest, so my guess is that is the "hd master" that Criterion based the color timing on.

edit to add #2:
I did some more digging and found this post by Ron Epstein over at HTF in regards to the 40th anniversary dvd.
I think it's safe to say that this was the "Mike Nichols approved" master that was referenced when Criterion color timed this new 4k master.
This was a restoration by Sony Pictures a couple of years ago. Sony has the TV rights, MGM has home video rights, and it is owned by Canal Plus. But, all agreed Sony would restore it. Mike Nichols attended an early screening of the film to get the color and densities correct and it is indeed a 'dark' film as some of the comments have noted. In a first meeting with Nichols, he asked if Sony knew how dark it should look, that it was a very dark film, and he meant literally as well as figuratively. It is an exceptionally well-photographed film that needed no embellishing from Sony. It is my understanding that Nichols was very gracious about the quality of the final work when Sony had the premiere at the Academy a year or so ago. Once completed, Sony then oversaw the new HD transfer of the film following the same guidelines from the director on the look once again. Sony also compared framing on the earlier transfers of the film to make sure they were getting the most out of the image, not cutting off as much as on the previous transfers.
Either that, or Mike Nichols worked on this new master himself and the discs have been pressed and sitting in Criterion's warehouse for a year and a half like Slop suggested.

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Old 02-24-16 | 10:53 AM
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..picked up the following Blu-ray:
1. the graduate
2. lady snow blood
3. time bandits
..total price $59.91...great deal
Old 02-24-16 | 01:07 PM
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Old 02-25-16 | 04:31 PM
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I've heard rumblings around the web that Criterion is working on a Linklater Before Trilogy set for this year
Old 02-25-16 | 04:37 PM
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Linklater rumbled about that as well when doing press for Before Midnight. I hope we see this within the next year or two. And Ethan Hawke mentions it as well at 2:10.


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Old 02-25-16 | 05:42 PM
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While I liked the whole trilogy, I hope Criterion releases Before Sunrise separately - as that's the best film and has the most replay value for me.
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Old 02-26-16 | 11:57 AM
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Old 02-26-16 | 11:58 AM
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Gotta be. I'll upgrade to HD for a Criterion of that.
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Gotta be. I'll upgrade to HD for a Criterion of that.
The current Sony/Columbia disc is pretty delicious. I hope a Criterion release would have something to add beyond a re-release of their old supplemental material for Strangelove, as good as that material is.
Old 02-26-16 | 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Doctorossi
The current Sony/Columbia disc is pretty delicious. I hope a Criterion release would have something to add beyond a re-release of their old supplemental material for Strangelove, as good as that material is.
Yea. I got the steelbook from Best Buy not too long ago. Blah.

Also -- more info on The New World: https://www.criterion.com/current/po...-the-new-world
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Originally Posted by Doctorossi
The current Sony/Columbia disc is pretty delicious. I hope a Criterion release would have something to add beyond a re-release of their old supplemental material for Strangelove, as good as that material is.
Wasn't there a 4k restoration done on Strangelove at some point?

Also, I can't help but think there will be some monkey business related to the aspect ratio. Perhaps there will be multiple ratios like Criterion's On the Waterfront.
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Originally Posted by Doctorossi
The current Sony/Columbia disc is pretty delicious.
Originally Posted by dex14
Yea. I got the steelbook from Best Buy not too long ago.
And only cost me $10.

Originally Posted by rocket1312
Wasn't there a 4k restoration done on Strangelove at some point?
The Sony Blu is 4K.


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