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Has anyone heard any rumblings about Ingmar Bergman's 'The Virgin Spring' being a re-released in the next year on blu-ray? I recently saw this film, and was mesmerized by it. But, I hate to drop money on a 'picture-boxed' dvd only to see this come out again within the year. On that note, I have the same reservations about finally buying Fellini's landmark, 'La Strada.'

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Agree 100%. Black Narcissus and The Red Shoes are essential entries into anyone's film catalog, not just "classic" aficionados.

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Just keep in mind, if up is the opposite of down. Red Shoes is the opposite of The Expendables. For all your gay-lust for that film, I'm not sure you would enjoy these pieces of cinema perfection. You'd have to be very open-minded.

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This is pure conjecture on my part, but with The Magician in November and Fanny and Alexander strongly rumored for 2011, another Bergman next year doesn't seem likely. Even if you have to double-dip, you should be able to sell your DVD on Amazon for at least the $14 you'll pay for it from B & N now.

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:up:

The Red Shoes is amazing.

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....I'm slightly offended by that comment. I love film. I am fucking crazy for The Expendables cuz I grew up w/ action films as a kid. I love a lot of stuff from "Birth of a Nation" (well maybe I don't love it for it's thematic or portrayal elements in it but..as a film and as an exercise in editing) to Battleship Potemkin to King Kong to Maltese Falcon to any and all Kurosawa flicks to 2001 to Once Upon A Time In The West to The Godfather and Godfather Part II to French Connection to Taxi Drive to Raging Bull to Predator to T2 to Pulp Fiction to Toy Story etc etc and a lot of stuff in between those films I mentioned.

I'm not doubting that those are two great films. I'm just iffy on whether I'd like them enough to be in my collection. Just cuz they're amazing doesn't mean they belong in my collection. I bought them anyway. The moment I heard Scorsese had a thing on there...ok..I tend to like a lot of the stuff he likes...I just was iffy on whether I would like them. I hope I do like them and and gladly put them in my collection. That's all I meant.

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I'd be surprised if Virgin Spring is in Criterions top-50 queue for releasing on Blu. There's probably 5 or more Bergmans in line ahead of it (more popular and/or older releases).

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I'd double dip on that one in a heartbeat for a Blu version. Probably my second favorite Criterion.

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I'd venture that Virgin Spring is one of Bergman's most well-known films, along with Seventh Seal and Wild Strawberries.

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I wasn't insulting you, just making fun of the insane-love for Expendables. I hope you dig movies like these, they certainly aren't for anyone, but I know I'm proof you can like both types of films.

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I don't understand this line of reasoning. I grew up with the same films throughout the '80s, and I'm fine if I never see Expendables. I won't not see it if someone draggs me to it, but to be "crazy" about it just for nostalgia sake perplexes me.

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Agreed.

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Really? You really don't understand how someone who grew up with 80's action films might be excited about a modern-day throwback to 80's action films, with a cast and crew whose pedigree is as impressive as that of The Expendables? Are you really, truly incapable of understanding that? Because that would be a strange thing indeed.

Sorry for keeping this dumb derail going, I guess I'm just a little perplexed by your strange inability to peer outside of your own opinions.

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Well, since I happen to be someone who grew up on '80s action films and Expendables isn't really on my radar, then yes, I can understand that! But then I don't play with my old action figures nor look forward to movies staring said figures as well. I guess having grown up and moved on makes me weird...

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No, belittling people who don't conform to your specific point of view makes you weird. You are not every single person who grew up with 80's action films. All I'm saying is it's pretty dense to "not understand" people who don't think exactly the same way you do.

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This is exactly why I hesitate to buy the picture-boxed dvd now. I agree that The Virgin Spring is one of Bergman's most well-known films, along with Seventh Seal, Wild Strawberries and Fanny and Alexander.

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...maybe I just like those films a lot more than you? It's....pretty easy to understand my reasoning. Not much depth to it. Not just nostalgia but...also...an amalgam of old and new action stars kicking ass..that goes beyond nostalgia by a wee bit.

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This thread is giving me whiplash. From Bergman to the Expendables.....??? :hscratch:

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Imagine Bergman directing The Expendables. Now THAT would be a :hscratch:

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*imagining*....theoritically...if he did...there'd be less action...wonder how he'd do it?

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Wasn't trying to belittle, just trying to figure it out.

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Some people like things that other people may not like.

There, figured it out for you.

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But the release it has is pretty new already.

I'd guess F&A & Wild Strawberries first, then re-issues of some of the older, possibly non-anamorphic releases (Magic Flute, Autumn Sonata, Cries & Whispers), and then we'd see Virgin Spring.

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Not quite that simple - we both liked the same thing at one point. And I never said I don't like those action films, just not as much. So what is it that makes someone hold on to that same love/appreciation they had in their youth and what makes the other person move on?

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Why are you dragging this on? The guy likes something more than you, it really is that simple. Some people liked comic books when they were kids, but then as they got older decided they were no longer interested in them. Other people liked comics as children and still love them now. Should we give those people shit for not growing up?

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Expendables (Arnold, Stallone, Willis, Rourke, Lundgren, Erik Roberts, Gary Daniels, Li) = 1980s/early 1990s action movie nostalgia

It's also about how 80s/90s action films were filmed as well, much better than today's CGI-influenced MTV quick cut action movies. I think people that want to see this film expect it to be filmed in that 1980s/1990s style.

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That's an interesting knee-jerk reaction that you think I'm trying to "give someone shit for not growing up". Me, with a cartoon avatar.

So, excuse me for attempting a dialog with a little more depth to it than "yeah, can't wait for that to come out!!".

I guess I shouldn't be surprised by these simplistic, reductive lines of reasoning, which I suppose explain the fascination with similarly conceived movies.

*Carry on with your sycophantic ravings.


*now, that's "giving you shit"!

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Umm. You said:
"I guess having grown up and moved on makes me weird..."

You are the one that brought up that you have 'grown up' as a reason for not caring for those films. Also, you're the first person to use this condecending attitude towards anyone in this thread. The dude asked about a Criterion movie, and you went after him for being excited about the Expendables. Just stop.

Now, can we drop it and get back on topic, please?

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Seems like I touched a nerve in you that I didn't mean to. It's you who needs to stop reading stuff into things that aren't there. Whatever it is that makes you think that statement was meant in the pejorative is your issue. Get over yourself and move on.

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Nope, didn't touch a nerve. I was just desperately trying to get you to stop going on and on about this in a Criterion thread.

Anyway, I bid you adieu good sir. I have said enough, and I realize I have been continuing to contribute to the derailing of this thread. I am done.

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Sooooo ... what's everyone's final tallies for the Criterion Blu-rays they nabbed during the B&N sale?

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I've picked up:
Sanjuro & Yojimbo
Wages of Fear
Chungking Express

When does the sale end? I was thinking of trying to get one more order in before its over.

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The Leopard
Close-Up
Everlasting Moments
Mystery Train
Black Narcisssus
The Red Shoes
The Expendables

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Got almost everything I planned on getting & was holding off on until this sale.

Picked up (I might be forgetting something) . . .

Stagecoach
The Leopard
Red Shoes
Mystery Train (blind-buy)
Sanjuro/Yojimbo Box Set
Lola Montes
Vivre Sa Vie

Only thing I didn't get that I wanted was Black Narcissus, might make 1 more trip this weekend for it, but I'm in no rush as it would be a triple-dip for me.

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Ended up with:
8 1/2
Black Narcissus
Bottle Rocket
Days of Heaven
The Friends of Eddie Coyle (DVD)
Night Train to Munich (DVD)
Playtime
The Red Shoes

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By Brakhage: Volumes 1 and 2
Days of Heaven
Mystery Train
Che
The Vanishing (DVD)

I would be curious to know what the ratio of DVD sales to Blu Ray sales is. It seems like Criterion is marketed towards more serious film fans who might have more of a desire to buy Blu, which would mean the sales would be pretty close, if not greater in high def.

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Mystery Train
Revanche
Wings of Desire

Standard:

Chantal Akerman in the 70s, Eclipse Seires
Homicide
Missing
Slacker

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I got:

Black Narcissus
The Red Shoes
M
Paris, Texas
Walkabout
Red Desert

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Here's my haul on blu.

The Leopard
Red Shoes
Black Narcissus
Mystery Train
Lola Montes
Vivre Sa Vie
Everlasting Moments
Brakhage 1 & 2
Ride With the Devil
Secret of the Grain
Close Up
Walkabout
Gimme Shelter
Monterey Pop
Days of Heaven
Playtime
Monsoon Wedding
Che
Hunger
Red Desert

Practically nothing else on DVD: I think just the new Ozu set and the Costa set. Edit: and Rossellini's War Trilogy. I agree with another post I saw: too bad we don't have day and date blu-ray releases on all new Criterions.

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Sale doesn't end until Monday night. I'll post my tally then as I may pick up another title or two.