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Brian T 12-03-24 02:34 AM

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Johnnie To in the closet (and in Cantonese) :thumbsup: :

A lot of the higher profile names in there these days (almost too many sometimes) seem to be doing so adjacent to having some project coming out, or already out, but To has no movies on the horizon and hasn’t directed a full feature in years, so I’m wondering if he was at Criterion due to some upcoming release of one of his older films? One can hope . . .



dex14 12-03-24 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Brian T (Post 14518227)
so I’m wondering if he was at Criterion due to some upcoming release of one of his older films? One can hope . . .

MoMa was doing a To retrospective a few months ago, that's why he was in NYC.

But, yes...
https://www.scmp.com/lifestyle/enter...hy-hope-burden

asianxcore 12-07-24 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian T (Post 14518227)
Johnnie To in the closet (and in Cantonese) :thumbsup: :

I was fortunate enough to have attended SF MOMA's retrospective on Johnnie To back in 2017.

In addition to seeing Exiled (2006), Election (2005), Election 2 (2006) & The Mission (1999), there was a short Q&A between screenings as well, which is a memory I'll never forget.

Brian T 12-07-24 10:56 PM

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I’d love to see a retrospective even though I’ve seen all of his work at this point (except that reportedly awful mainland China film he did a few years ago). At TIFF every year since my first in 1998, my first picks have always been Hong Kong and Asian stuff (with anything from anywhere else a bonus). Over the years, I saw the premieres of, in chronological order, THE MISSION, FULLTIME KILLER, PTU, BREAKING NEWS, EXILED + ELECTION + ELECTION 2 (all three in the same fest), MAD DETECTIVE, VENGEANCE, LIFE WITHOUT PRINCIPLE, BLIND DETECTIVE and OFFICE 3D.

THE MISSION and FULLTIME KILLER were Midnight Madness shows, both with To and Wai Ka-Fai in attendance as I recall, and FULLTIME with Simon Yam and Andy Lau as well, the latter of whom accounted for about 200 screaming young girls with gigantic heart-shaped ‘I Love U Andy’ signs scattered throughout the audience. The cynical buddy I saw it with thought it was annoying. I thought it was awesome. :lol:

All of his screenings after those two were in the main programmes of the festival. He’s probably the one filmmaker I’ve seen there more than anyone else, but that wasn’t entirely intentional. Because I always picked HK movies, and because they kept inviting him back, I saw pretty much all of his screenings there, by default. Toward the last four I mentioned, I was starting to think the programmers just had him on speed-dial and would just take whatever he had available because of his name value. Not that those later ones are bad at all, but I started to wonder if TIFF couldn’t have given opportunities to other HK filmmakers, both veterans and newbies. I guess it’s just a fest thing to try and build up certain names. Most years I went during To’s run, there were other HK films in the programs, but never from anyone who got to repeat as often as To did.

With the exception of OFFICE, To appeared and did Q&A’s for all of them, but hearing about these recent retrospectives I tend to think a career-focused Q&A at those was probably a more satisfying experience.

dex14 12-10-24 12:15 PM

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Check your email for $10 Criterion codes. Not sure if all get them.
If anyone received one and doesn't plan to use, I'm happy to take it off your hands. :D

rocket1312 12-10-24 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by dex14 (Post 14521487)
Check your email for $10 Criterion codes. Not sure if all get them.
If anyone received one and doesn't plan to use, I'm happy to take it off your hands. :D

Do the codes expire? The usual subscriber gift codes don't, but this newest email doesn't specify.

dex14 12-10-24 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by rocket1312 (Post 14521492)
Do the codes expire? The usual subscriber gift codes don't, but this newest email doesn't specify.

Nope. You can bank them until the next Flash Sale.

Why So Blu? 12-10-24 12:36 PM

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With yesterday's code I had $40, so I went ahead and made an order of 4 titles on 4K. My total was $99 and some change. Basically 50% off. Snagged: Paris, Texas 4K, Repo Man 4K, No Country for Old Men 4K, and 8 1/2 4K.


Paff 12-10-24 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by dex14 (Post 14521497)
Nope. You can bank them until the next Flash Sale.

You're sure about that? Cuz I was gonna place an order, but the next Flash sale is only a couple months away I can wait if it's still valid.

dex14 12-10-24 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Paff (Post 14521637)
You're sure about that? Cuz I was gonna place an order, but the next Flash sale is only a couple months away I can wait if it's still valid.

Yes, I save them every year. You can add it to
your account now and it just stays there.

OldBoy 12-10-24 05:02 PM

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Man, I just saw Criterion’s No Country for Old Men in 4K. It was stunning. Such a great movie and looked so good. Can’t wait to get to the extras.

andicus 12-10-24 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by dex14 (Post 14521638)
Yes, I save them every year. You can add it to
your account now and it just stays there.

I'm glad you mentioned this. Even though the email said they didn't expire, I had no idea you could stack them.

I just went through all of mine and have $110 worth of credit!

dex14 12-11-24 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by andicus (Post 14521748)
I'm glad you mentioned this. Even though the email said they didn't expire, I had not idea you could stack them.

I just went through all of mine and have $110 worth of credit!

https://media2.giphy.com/media/SvomF...=200w.gif&ct=g

Paff 12-11-24 12:59 PM

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I dug through my emails and only found two unused codes. Still, it's free money. I'm gonna use em.

andicus 12-11-24 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by dex14 (Post 14521933)

As well, since they don't expire, I can wait until the next 50% off sale!!

Adam Tyner 12-13-24 11:16 AM

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Coming in March:

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rocket1312 12-13-24 12:10 PM

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Criterion grabbing a Warner Archive title (Night Moves) feels like kind of a big deal.

Adam Tyner 12-13-24 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by rocket1312 (Post 14523015)
Criterion grabbing a Warner Archive title (Night Moves) feels like kind of a big deal.

It seems like the start of a recent trend. Performance might've been the first, and I could've sworn an announcement from another boutique (possibly also Criterion) in the past month or two included another Warner Archive title.

Why So Blu? 12-13-24 03:47 PM

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Wages of Fear will only be 4K SDR. I believe the BFI edition is full 4K HDR/DV.

If CC is doing Thief on 4K I wonder if Arrow will handle the UK 4K? They released their own BD version that had different supplements than the domestic release like 10 years ago or so.

Brian T 12-13-24 06:02 PM

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I guess BIOLLANTE getting a standalone release kills any chance of a boxed set with that run of Godzilla pictures. I presume something to do with different U.S. rights-holders for various films, in particular the first two?

Trevor 12-13-24 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian T (Post 14523198)
I guess BIOLLANTE getting a standalone release kills any chance of a boxed set with that run of Godzilla pictures. I presume something to do with different U.S. rights-holders for various films, in particular the first two?

Happy to see some special features on it. The box set was fairly lacking.

Adam Tyner 12-14-24 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian T (Post 14523198)
I guess BIOLLANTE getting a standalone release kills any chance of a boxed set with that run of Godzilla pictures.

I think a larger collection (or series of collections) could still be in the cards. Criterion has preceded box sets by individual releases before (Godzilla, Bergman, Fellini...and yeah, one of these things is not like the others). Biollante is the only Heisei-era film that's been remastered and gotten a physical release in Japan to date. Toho is issuing a box set that includes (among others) Return of Godzilla, Mechagodzilla '93, and Final Wars next June.

The turnaround time has been pretty zippy, with Criterion's editions of '54 and Biollante following roughly a year after the Japanese UHD editions. Even after next summer's big box set, there are still gaps for Showa, Heisei, and Millennium as far as physical remastered releases go in Japan, so we'd probably be looking at 2026 or 2027 for a complete Heisei / Millennium set from Criterion.


Originally Posted by Brian T (Post 14523198)
I presume something to do with different U.S. rights-holders for various films, in particular the first two?

Those rights have been expiring, and the last of what Sony holds expires pretty imminently, IIRC. The only title that's held in perpetuity is, I believe, King Kong vs. Godzilla, and Universal is very easy to work with.

Coral 12-18-24 05:37 PM

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Anyone have "Pamela Anderson, Cinephile" on their bingo card?
Have to be honest, I didn't expect her to have this level of knowledge with films - especially foreign films. Fellini, Godard, Bergman, Malle, Bellocchio, Kiarostami among her choices.
I'm impressed.


DJariya 12-18-24 05:42 PM

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I have Thief on Criterion BD and on Arrow region B.

I don't think a 4K upgrade will really enhance the viewing experience.

Paff 12-18-24 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Adam Tyner (Post 14523031)
It seems like the start of a recent trend. Performance might've been the first, and I could've sworn an announcement from another boutique (possibly also Criterion) in the past month or two included another Warner Archive title.

I'd love it if they got Urgh! A Music War from the Warner Archives. For my money, still the best concert film ever made, and yes I've seen (and love) Stop Making Sense. There's a rumor that each band in the film had three songs filmed, and they only included the best one in the final print. But that means there's over four hours of incredible music on film if someone can dig deep into the vaults for them.


Originally Posted by Coral (Post 14525237)
Anyone have "Pamela Anderson, Cinephile" on their bingo card?
Have to be honest, I didn't expect her to have this level of knowledge with films - especially foreign films. Fellini, Godard, Bergman, Malle, Bellocchio, Kiarostami among her choices.
I'm impressed.

Even for those associated with trash cinema, they've taken acting classes and have studied film. Ultimately it doesn't surprise me at all. Like I once saw a one-man show starring Jeffrey "Herbert West, Reanimator" Combs and he commanded the stage for nearly two hours. You wouldn't think that considering all the schlock cinema he's done in his career.

Hokeyboy 12-18-24 08:37 PM

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Good Lord I've never been more attracted to her.

andicus 12-19-24 12:02 AM

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I really hate this giant fucking glasses trend. They look absolutely ridiculous.


Paff 12-19-24 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by andicus (Post 14525321)
I really hate this giant fucking glasses trend. They look absolutely ridiculous.

Then I guess you're lucky they can't ask George Romero to do one of these Criterion Closet Picks...

Josh Z 12-19-24 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by DJariya (Post 14525238)
I have Thief on Criterion BD and on Arrow region B.

I don't think a 4K upgrade will really enhance the viewing experience.

Not unless they fix the horrible Director's Cut color grading, which is unlikely if they want to market it as being approved by Michael Mann.

andicus 12-19-24 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Paff (Post 14525470)
Then I guess you're lucky they can't ask George Romero to do one of these Criterion Closet Picks...

There is a very short list of people that could/can get away with it.

George Romero - we're just used to it.
Dennis Taylor, purely for their functional purpose. He's a snooker player and needed them to be able to sight down the cue:

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/dvdtalk...e85e8b9da9.png

milo bloom 12-19-24 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Adam Tyner (Post 14523470)
I think a larger collection (or series of collections) could still be in the cards. Criterion has preceded box sets by individual releases before (Godzilla, Bergman, Fellini...and yeah, one of these things is not like the others). Biollante is the only Heisei-era film that's been remastered and gotten a physical release in Japan to date. Toho is issuing a box set that includes (among others) Return of Godzilla, Mechagodzilla '93, and Final Wars next June.

The turnaround time has been pretty zippy, with Criterion's editions of '54 and Biollante following roughly a year after the Japanese UHD editions. Even after next summer's big box set, there are still gaps for Showa, Heisei, and Millennium as far as physical remastered releases go in Japan, so we'd probably be looking at 2026 or 2027 for a complete Heisei / Millennium set from Criterion.

Those rights have been expiring, and the last of what Sony holds expires pretty imminently, IIRC. The only title that's held in perpetuity is, I believe, King Kong vs. Godzilla, and Universal is very easy to work with.

I wonder if Criterion could have pulled off a "Reiwa Era Vol 1" boxset by including, Shin Godzilla, the anime trilogy, the Singular Point series and Minus One. I would have bought the hell out of that.

dex14 12-30-24 06:26 PM

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Why So Blu? 12-30-24 06:30 PM

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Criterion posted the closet clip this morning. 1+1 = 2.

dex14 12-30-24 06:51 PM

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They’ve been doing press for a movie they’re currently in together.

andicus 12-30-24 11:03 PM

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My goodness, Juliette is still stunning. Can I elect to spend my time in the closet, with her?

Coral 12-31-24 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by andicus (Post 14529869)
My goodness, Juliette is still stunning. Can I elect to spend my time in the closet, with her?

She really is. Was a big fan of hers since seeing her in Kieślowski's Three Colours: Blue.

DJariya 12-31-24 02:37 PM

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I started watching some of those Criterion closet videos on YouTube last night. I'm pleasantly surprised to see some known people on there being such film nerds like Pam Anderson and even Norman Reedus. And then they get hooked up with free movies for participating in the video.

Coral 12-31-24 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by DJariya (Post 14530044)
I started watching some of those Criterion closet videos on YouTube last night. I'm pleasantly surprised to see some known people on their being such film nerds like Pam Anderson and even Norman Reedus. And then they get hooked up with free movies for participating in the video.

I find that aspect a little annoying. You hear the celebrity get excited about grabbing movies they like and are basically like a kid in a candy store - especially when they grab boxsets. I always think "you can buy every title in this closet and you wouldn't even notice it in your bank account - why don't you just buy them?"

DJariya 12-31-24 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Coral (Post 14530115)
I find that aspect a little annoying. You hear the celebrity get excited about grabbing movies they like and are basically like a kid in a candy store - especially when they grab boxsets. I always think "you can buy every title in this closet and you wouldn't even notice it in your bank account - why don't you just buy them?"

Why? That's basically their compensation for participating in the video. Criterion sacrifices a few hundred dollars of Blu-Rays to get some celebrity advertising. These guys also like physical media. You're not going to get a minimalist or streamer to be interested in partaking in this. And they are only choosing movies they are interested in.

Coral 12-31-24 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DJariya (Post 14530122)
Why? That's basically their compensation for participating in the video. Criterion sacrifices a few hundred dollars of Blu-Rays to get some celebrity advertising. These guys also like physical media. You're not going to get a minimalist or streamer to be interested in partaking in this. And they are only choosing movies they are interested in.

I'm not questioning why Criterion gets them to do it. I get that part. What I don't get is when rich-ass celebrities salivate at being able to grab these titles for free (I'm not talking about their excitement when they talk about the titles). If I were them, Amazon would basically be my Criterion closet. I wouldn't think anything about spending a few hundred (or a few thousand) dollars on titles if I were them.


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