The Criterion Collection 4K/Blu-ray Discussion and Release Thread
#7176
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I very much doubt that digital blurring was stipulated in her contract. The best explanation I could find on the internet was on this site :
As far as Inland Empire is concerned, I'm sure a BD would at the very least improve the compression given it's length. Also, I don't know how the dvd transfer was done, but it's possible it could be improved. The new restoration of Hoop Dreams that is making the rounds is like night and day compared to the Criterion dvd and that was shot on sd video. However, I think that must have been a film print that Criterion used to do their transfer. I assume the Inland Empire dvd was an entirely digital workflow.
#7177
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Inland Empire was shot on standard-def video. And not even good standard-def video. Absolute garbage, bottom-of-the-barrel DV. The movie probably could have looked better had Lynch shot it with a 1980s VHS camcorder. There's no point to putting Inland Empire on Blu-ray. An upconverted Blu-ray was released in the UK and of course it looks atrocious.
#7178
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It was affordable. It has always been hard for him to get financing so he decided to shoot it the most economical way possible. Not only was he the writer & director on IE but he was also one of the producers, the editor, cinematographer, camera operator, sound designer & sound re-recording mixer. I guess the money was tight.
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#7179
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It was affordable. It has always been hard for him to get financing so he decided to shoot it the most economical way possible. Not only was he the writer & director on IE but he was also one of the producers, the editor, cinematographer, camera operator, sound designer & sound re-recording mixer. I guess the money was tight.
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Yeah, in the "Side by Side" documentary, he talks about it a little bit. Keanu asks him if he's done with film and he basically says, "I think so." but that doesn't mean he'll stick with standard-def DV. He could easily get his hands on a high quality digital camera (Red, etc.), but he'd need a cinematographer who knows how best to utilize it.
#7181
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Also, I don't know how the dvd transfer was done, but it's possible it could be improved. The new restoration of Hoop Dreams that is making the rounds is like night and day compared to the Criterion dvd and that was shot on sd video.
#7182
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The problem is that David Lynch likes the way that Inland Empire looks now. He shot it that way on purpose. Even with the cheap prosumer DV camera he used, he could have gotten better image quality out of it if he'd wanted or tried. Simply lighting his shots with something better than a table lamp at the far end of the room would have helped enormously. Lynch claims that he likes the "textures" of the ugly video.
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having seen the UK BD of Inland Empire, I would say compression is definitely better but the biggest improvement is in the audio mix.
There is no improvement in the movie though (ducks).
There is no improvement in the movie though (ducks).
#7185
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Yeah, in the "Side by Side" documentary, he talks about it a little bit. Keanu asks him if he's done with film and he basically says, "I think so." but that doesn't mean he'll stick with standard-def DV. He could easily get his hands on a high quality digital camera (Red, etc.), but he'd need a cinematographer who knows how best to utilize it.
. But in the case of Lynch, we're talking about some who's as non-commercial as it's humanly possible to be, so for him to have cheap consumer equipment available, it probably allowed him to do pretty much whatever he wanted. Apparently when working on it, he basically dreamed stuff up on the spot and worked as he went along. There are lots of filmmakers who make films which deal with difficult subject matter or non-commercial ideas, but few who are as outright obtuse and non-literal. That being said, most of the early digital adopters-the Dogme guys, Boyle, Soderberg, Neveldine/Taylor, Rodriguez, etc. seemed to like the expediency of it, the looseness and freedom it offered to pretty much go and do whatever you wanted without worrying much about the cost of celluloid or cameras, being able to be so spontaneous. That said, idiosyncratic as he is, maybe he does like the ragged, haggard staticky look of it. With Lynch, who the hell knows? That said, digital is a lot more sophisticated now, and for him to wind up using a proper high end camera like and Alexa or a Red is probably forthcoming. Though that would also me he'd have to return to filmmaking, and apparently he's been away for a while doing....whatever it is he's doing.
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Last thing he did was a music video for Nine Inch Nails
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I never saw Twin Peaks. I'll get the set when it's cheaper.
David Lynch is a filmmaker I'd love to see during the whole process of production for a film. He is very unique and form interviews he seems like a really nice guy too.
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On October 6, 2014, David Lynch confirmed via Twitter that he will start shooting together with Mark Frost a new, 9-episode series of Twin Peaks in 2015. The episodes are expected to air in early 2016 on Showtime.
David Lynch is a filmmaker I'd love to see during the whole process of production for a film. He is very unique and form interviews he seems like a really nice guy too.
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It's going to be academic very shortly, film is going, going, gone
. But in the case of Lynch, we're talking about some who's as non-commercial as it's humanly possible to be, so for him to have cheap consumer equipment available, it probably allowed him to do pretty much whatever he wanted. Apparently when working on it, he basically dreamed stuff up on the spot and worked as he went along. There are lots of filmmakers who make films which deal with difficult subject matter or non-commercial ideas, but few who are as outright obtuse and non-literal. That being said, most of the early digital adopters-the Dogme guys, Boyle, Soderberg, Neveldine/Taylor, Rodriguez, etc. seemed to like the expediency of it, the looseness and freedom it offered to pretty much go and do whatever you wanted without worrying much about the cost of celluloid or cameras, being able to be so spontaneous. That said, idiosyncratic as he is, maybe he does like the ragged, haggard staticky look of it. With Lynch, who the hell knows? That said, digital is a lot more sophisticated now, and for him to wind up using a proper high end camera like and Alexa or a Red is probably forthcoming. Though that would also me he'd have to return to filmmaking, and apparently he's been away for a while doing....whatever it is he's doing.
. But in the case of Lynch, we're talking about some who's as non-commercial as it's humanly possible to be, so for him to have cheap consumer equipment available, it probably allowed him to do pretty much whatever he wanted. Apparently when working on it, he basically dreamed stuff up on the spot and worked as he went along. There are lots of filmmakers who make films which deal with difficult subject matter or non-commercial ideas, but few who are as outright obtuse and non-literal. That being said, most of the early digital adopters-the Dogme guys, Boyle, Soderberg, Neveldine/Taylor, Rodriguez, etc. seemed to like the expediency of it, the looseness and freedom it offered to pretty much go and do whatever you wanted without worrying much about the cost of celluloid or cameras, being able to be so spontaneous. That said, idiosyncratic as he is, maybe he does like the ragged, haggard staticky look of it. With Lynch, who the hell knows? That said, digital is a lot more sophisticated now, and for him to wind up using a proper high end camera like and Alexa or a Red is probably forthcoming. Though that would also me he'd have to return to filmmaking, and apparently he's been away for a while doing....whatever it is he's doing.Last edited by nitin77; 10-20-14 at 06:25 PM.
#7188
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In recent years, Lynch has spent most of his time on his self-created art commune, surrounded by sycophantic college grad students who ooh and ahh while he makes weird furniture.
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Is this re-release of Criterion's Leopard a new transfer?
#7196
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He said that watching the Missing Pieces on film reminded him of the life it has, so he more or less confirmed it himself.
#7197
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On a completely unrelated note, Criterion's newsletter yesterday hinted at Carol Reed's Odd Man out. It's a title that's been rumored for years, so I'm glad to finally see it happening.
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#7199
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edit: The new Playtime blu is an upgrade, but it's only available in the Tati boxset.
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