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Old 12-18-13 | 10:28 PM
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If it is the former, directors choosing to do this recoloring on home video releases is becoming a pretty serious issue with a number of releases lately.
Old 12-18-13 | 10:30 PM
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Only the crazier directors. Mann is more known for re-editing stuff, like on the Last of the Mohicans release. I'm fairly optimistic this release will retain it's original color palate. A few months ago MGM-HD was showing Thief, and it looked damn good.
Old 12-18-13 | 10:59 PM
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James Cameron seems to be making a habit of it too.
Old 12-18-13 | 11:17 PM
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Only the crazier directors. Mann is more known for re-editing stuff, like on the Last of the Mohicans release. I'm fairly optimistic this release will retain it's original color palate. A few months ago MGM-HD was showing Thief, and it looked damn good.
have you seen the screen captures in the blu-ray.com review - it's pretty extreme in the 'blue' color department. Someone noted it looks nothing like what was shown on MGM-HD.
Old 12-18-13 | 11:32 PM
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Just did. Wow, those few screenshots look nothing like the MGM-HD showings. Damn, so now Mann seems to have jumped on board with fucking with the color palate.
Old 12-19-13 | 10:03 AM
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In addition to being edited differently, Last of the Mohicans was also significantly darkened on Blu-ray.

Mann is one of those directors who can't stop tinkering with his old movies. He doesn't know when to let go.

With that said, I wouldn't trust the ancient transfer that has aired on MGM-HD to be accurate to the movie's correct color palette.
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I'm unfamiliar with the film but that is a LOT of blue.
Old 12-19-13 | 03:15 PM
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Why so blue??? Fuck

First thing I noticed that was a lot of blue on Thief...unfortunately I will buy it anyway. The DVD is unwatchable.
Old 12-19-13 | 03:18 PM
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Michael Mann & William Friedkin are both color blind.
Old 12-19-13 | 04:08 PM
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Have any of you seem 'The Great Beauty'? It's one of the year's best films. I reviewed it upon it's release: http://indieethos.wordpress.com/2013...e-superficial/

I saw it this afternoon - and I must say my initial impression of the movie was the same for the over praised Holy Motors:

huh? whaaaa .... ??


the one aspect I really loved was the music, both the classical and the dance music and the 5.1 mix was just evocative and beautiful.
Old 12-20-13 | 04:40 AM
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I saw it this afternoon - and I must say my initial impression of the movie was the same for the over praised Holy Motors:

huh? whaaaa .... ??


the one aspect I really loved was the music, both the classical and the dance music and the 5.1 mix was just evocative and beautiful.
Holy Motors happens to be a favorite of mine. Do check out my review if it felt hard to grasp. The distributor said I covered all the same thoughts she had when she first saw it.
Old 12-20-13 | 05:46 AM
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Michael Mann & William Friedkin are both color blind.
Those screenies hardly look like what Friedkin did to French Connection.
Old 12-20-13 | 07:59 AM
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What did Freidkin do? That's news to me.
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Holy Motors happens to be a favorite of mine. Do check out my review if it felt hard to grasp. The distributor said I covered all the same thoughts she had when she first saw it.
Do you have a direct link?
Old 12-20-13 | 10:35 AM
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Do you have a direct link?

found it:

'Holy Motors'


the more I've thought about 'The Great Beauty' (late last night/this morning) - the more it's impressed me.

I was overhearing a couple of woman after the screening and she was apologizing to her friend for inviting her to see this, I think that neither of them were that enamored with the film - I've only apologized maybe less than five times where I think I would have enjoyed the more on my own or with someone completely different (those movies were 'The Man from London' and 'Texas Chainsaw Massacre: The Beginning - two totally polar opposites and non-genre related films).

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What did Freidkin do? That's news to me.
He tweaked the look of the French Connection on it's first blu-ray release, but it was thankfully re-released to look like it did in the theaters.

Here's a shot from the tweaked version and here's a shot from the blu-ray released that fixed the the look back to normal.
Old 12-20-13 | 04:12 PM
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New picture hint:



Looks like Ace in the Hole is getting upgraded.
Old 12-20-13 | 04:57 PM
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That must be the clearest hint Criterion has ever issued.
Old 12-20-13 | 05:05 PM
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Criterion just put up Bong Joon-ho’s Top 10 Criterions... does this mean we might see his new movie Snowpiercer show up on Criterion soon? (or maybe his classic Memories of Murder - though I already have that on blu)
Old 12-21-13 | 01:01 AM
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New picture hint:



Looks like Ace in the Hole is getting upgraded.
Excellent. Another Criterion title I've held off on getting, in hopes a Blu-Ray would be released...
Old 12-21-13 | 01:41 AM
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Is this touted as "director-approved," or has the color tinting change been made at Criterion's discretion?
first line of paragraph 2 of the review "Restored in 4K and approved by Michael Mann"
Old 12-21-13 | 06:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Giles
found it:

'Holy Motors'


the more I've thought about 'The Great Beauty' (late last night/this morning) - the more it's impressed me.

I was overhearing a couple of woman after the screening and she was apologizing to her friend for inviting her to see this, I think that neither of them were that enamored with the film - I've only apologized maybe less than five times where I think I would have enjoyed the more on my own or with someone completely different (those movies were 'The Man from London' and 'Texas Chainsaw Massacre: The Beginning - two totally polar opposites and non-genre related films).
I hope that helped, as well as 'the Great Beauty' review. The theater that hosted both these films has even asked me in recent years to introduce 'The Turin Horse' and 'Post Tenebras Lux', in order to help ease the audience in to some of the stranger films of recent years.

But 'Great Beauty' is not for everyone. My wife didn't like it. She dozed off during the revelatory finale, but when I explained what she missed, she appreciated the film a little more. It's not a straight narrative and is interested in presenting the idea of beautiful experiences as something you cannot over-conceptualize.
Old 12-21-13 | 06:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Josh Z
That must be the clearest hint Criterion has ever issued.
... and the first I ever got immediately. Though, I only got the blue on the card until this thread!
Old 12-29-13 | 01:36 PM
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Trying to find some information on this, but looking at the wording and the screencaps, it seems that 'Beales' is in SD on the Grey Gardens disc? A bit surprising, considering both films come from the same sources.
Old 12-29-13 | 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by slowcloud
Holy Motors happens to be a favorite of mine. Do check out my review if it felt hard to grasp. The distributor said I covered all the same thoughts she had when she first saw it.
Just wanted to chime in and say that Holy Motors is fantastic.


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