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LPMA 02-18-14 04:43 PM

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No surprises there.

Maxflier 02-18-14 04:52 PM

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In for Zissou.

BuckNaked2k 02-18-14 05:00 PM

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I'm with Team Zissou.

Neil M. 02-18-14 06:02 PM

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The Criterion Red River looks stacked compared to the MoC version. Absolute buy for me.

Supermallet 02-18-14 06:52 PM

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Ace in the Hole and Life Aquatic.

Gizmo 02-18-14 10:04 PM

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No DVD with Life? So random.

Gizmo 02-18-14 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by MTRodaba2468 (Post 12015876)
Those claiming it would be out a few months after the initial release were certainly jumping the gun. Criterion releases of both The Darjeeling Limited and Fantastic Mr. Fox came out years after the initial releases.

Agreed. Rushmore (DVD) was pretty quick a decade ago.

rocket1312 02-18-14 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Gizmo (Post 12017066)
No DVD with Life? So random.

I could be mistaken, but my guess is that while part of the "Criterion Collection," the Life Aquatic dvd is actually distributed by Disney (or whichever of their subsidiaries handles the film). That's why it's priced so much cheaper than normal Criterions. When it comes to the dvd, Criterion isn't really involved. The blu-ray, on the other hand, is distributed by Criterion themselves.

Dr. Mantle 02-18-14 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by slop101 (Post 12014407)
You guys know he's not dead, right?

Why does he have to be dead to get a boxed set?

GatorDeb 02-19-14 12:38 AM

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Tarantino got a boxed set. Not Criterion, but still. :sad:

Gizmo 02-19-14 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by GatorDeb (Post 12017165)
Tarantino got a boxed set. Not Criterion, but still. :sad:

Umm. Ok.

Neil M. 02-19-14 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Gizmo (Post 12017066)
No DVD with Life? So random.

Overlord is the same way. I'm wondering if they're basing it off of the supply of dvd's they have.

rocket1312 02-19-14 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Neil M. (Post 12017481)
Overlord is the same way. I'm wondering if they're basing it off of the supply of dvd's they have.

I'm sure that's exactly the case. They probably don't anticipate selling out their existing supply of dvds anytime soon. I can't imagine something like Overlord is a huge seller. Contrast that with 400 Blows or Breathless which are probably two of their highest sellers. They've been switched to dual-format due to the fact that they're probably pressing new discs on a consistent basis. Peter Becker makes in very clear in the article on Criterion's website that Blu-ray only upgrades will happen from time to time. I also think they're still figuring all of this out as they go.

milo bloom 02-19-14 04:51 PM

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Also, I see a lot of used copies of the DVD of The Life Aquatic where I buy used discs. Only titles like Royal Tenenbaums, Chasing Amy, Armageddon, etc show up more. Also, it was released in a single disc and two disc versions, so there's a lot out there.

wahlers 02-21-14 01:18 PM

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So what's up with the inconsistent packaging on these dual-formats?

City Lights was in a clear case that more-or-less fit the other Chaplin Criterions.

Now, I get Fantastic Mr. Fox and Foreign Correspondent and both are in cardboard fold-out packages with clear disc holders (2 on one side, 1 on the other) in cardboard slipcovers.

Don't get me wrong, they look nice, but are a bit of a shock because they are as wide on a shelf as the old fat 2-disc amaray cases and a little taller than standard blu-ray cases.

It also makes less sense for them to sell clear replacement cases and artwork for their earlier cardboard package releases (done to allow people have more consistent Criterion collections) if they're just going to switch things up again.

:confused:

What's the pattern on packaging for the dual format releases so far?

rocket1312 02-21-14 01:25 PM

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City Lights is only 2 discs, thus it gets a plastic case. Anything 3 discs or more gets a cardboard digipack at this point. I can't speak to the size of the 3 disc digipacks, as I haven't seen one yet. Are they significantly bigger than say, Seven Samurai or Night of the Hunter? It wouldn't surprise me if Criterion comes up with a 3 disc plastic case at some point, but it would have to be pretty wide to accommodate the typical Criterion booklet.

milo bloom 02-21-14 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by rocket1312 (Post 12020561)
City Lights is only 2 discs, thus it gets a plastic case. Anything 3 discs or more gets a cardboard digipack at this point. I can't speak to the size of the 3 disc digipacks, as I haven't seen one yet. Are they significantly bigger than say, Seven Samurai or Night of the Hunter? It wouldn't surprise me if Criterion comes up with a 3 disc plastic case at some point, but it would have to be pretty wide to accommodate the typical Criterion booklet.

I've seen DVD sized 3 disc case (the second X-Files movie comes to mind), but a booklet would be an extremely tight fit.


I've also seen several 3 disc Bluray cases, so not sure why Criterion couldn't get access to those either.

nitin77 02-21-14 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by rocket1312 (Post 12020561)
City Lights is only 2 discs, thus it gets a plastic case. Anything 3 discs or more gets a cardboard digipack at this point. I can't speak to the size of the 3 disc digipacks, as I haven't seen one yet. Are they significantly bigger than say, Seven Samurai or Night of the Hunter? It wouldn't surprise me if Criterion comes up with a 3 disc plastic case at some point, but it would have to be pretty wide to accommodate the typical Criterion booklet.

yeah if the dual format needs 2 dvds, you get the cardboard cases. If there is only one dvd, you get the City Lights type packaging.

Giles 02-21-14 08:39 PM

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is Red River a good blind buy?

Subgeniusguy 02-21-14 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Giles (Post 12021025)
is Red River a good blind buy?

Hell yeah, it's a great film. If you halfway like John Wayne, you'll think it's one of his best. He gets to be a kind of "bad guy" similar to Ethan in The Searchers. Those roles suit him best.

hanshotfirst1138 02-22-14 12:21 AM

Weak ending not withstanding, it's a fantastic film, one of the best westerns, and one of Hawks finest. Can't believe you've never seen it!

hanshotfirst1138 02-25-14 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Giles (Post 12002895)
usually, but I found it interesting that Janus Films was credited on a recent screening of Ridley Scott's Alien - that's a bluray that doesn't need another version as it has pretty much everything but the kitchen sink.

It has the kitchen sink, the bathroom sink, the toenail clippings from Sigourney Weaver's hairdresser, and it beams signals to the mothership, it's insane how much stuff it has. On that subject, I have the Legacy, Quadriology (That's not a word) and Anthology boxed sets, is there anything exclusive to any of them, or should I just sell off the old sets and keep the Blu?

LPMA 02-25-14 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by hanshotfirst1138 (Post 12025385)
It has the kitchen sink, the bathroom sink, the toenail clippings from Sigourney Weaver's hairdresser, and it beams signals to the mothership, it's insane how much stuff it has. On that subject, I have the Legacy, Quadriology (That's not a word) and Anthology boxed sets, is there anything exclusive to any of them, or should I just sell off the old sets and keep the Blu?

This is from the DVDTalk review:


All of the documentary and supplemental features from the Quadrilogy have been ported over to the Anthology, though instead of each movie getting its own bonus disc, these have now been relegated to two different bonus discs--essentially, Disc 5 and Disc 6.
Wouldn't know about the Legacy set though.

Supermallet 02-25-14 05:12 PM

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So you all know there's a 50% off flash sale going on Criterion's site right now, yes?

I picked up Fantastic Mr. Fox, Tess, Rashomon, 12 Angry Men, and Seconds.

whotony 02-25-14 05:23 PM

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Yep, I think it better to wait for the B&N sale.

Why So Blu? 02-25-14 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by whotony (Post 12025558)
Yep, I think it better to wait for the B&N sale.

Who knows how many more B&N sales we'll have left. They're in trouble again.

hanshotfirst1138 02-25-14 05:54 PM


Originally Posted by Why So Blu? (Post 12025579)
Who knows how many more B&N sales we'll have left. They're in trouble again.

God, the world is changing so fast, browsing the aisles may be a thing of the past, and all of those jobs will be gone.

Supermallet 02-25-14 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by whotony (Post 12025558)
Yep, I think it better to wait for the B&N sale.

By the time of the next B&N sale they'll have released more titles I want, so I figured it was worth breaking up the purchases between what's out now and what will be out in the next few months.

bluetoast 02-25-14 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by whotony (Post 12025558)
Yep, I think it better to wait for the B&N sale.

But Criterion is sending out 20 Golden Tickets randomly with today's orders, which give shirts and other things, but the grand prize of which is a virtual "spree" in the Criterion Closet.

whotony 02-25-14 08:35 PM

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Yeah, whoop DE do.
What is a virtual spree in their dvd closet anyway?

bluetoast 02-25-14 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by whotony (Post 12025772)
Yeah, whoop DE do.
What is a virtual spree in their dvd closet anyway?

They move the camera around and you choose whatever the fuck you want. Just like every other Criterion closet video that they have with directors and actors, except via webcam.

MTRodaba2468 02-25-14 10:06 PM

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I got home from work a few hours after the flash sale started, and most of the more recent releases were already gone.

I managed to order a few though.

Supermallet 02-25-14 10:12 PM

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Did they say they were sold out or that they were on backorder? Tess said it was on backorder but it still let me purchase it. They even split up my order and didn't charge me shipping for the smaller portion.

whotony 02-25-14 10:19 PM

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Virtual spree up to what. 10 movies. 20? All of them?

dino88 02-25-14 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by whotony (Post 12025884)
Virtual spree up to what. 10 movies. 20? All of them?

It's a virtual tour of the Wes Anderson closet.

whotony 02-25-14 10:25 PM

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That's a lot of movies.

MTRodaba2468 02-25-14 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Supermallet (Post 12025881)
Did they say they were sold out or that they were on backorder? Tess said it was on backorder but it still let me purchase it. They even split up my order and didn't charge me shipping for the smaller portion.

Backorder. The sale stated that it was for in stock items only.

I went ahead and gave it a try after seeing your post and it didn't work. So if you did get it for half off, than kudos.

Supermallet 02-25-14 11:11 PM

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Yeah, this is my order:

http://i.imgur.com/QxI1YYO.png

Tess was listed as backordered, and even though I chose send in one shipment, they split it off into a separate shipment for no extra shipping fee. :shrug:

JackBurton 03-06-14 08:15 AM

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Gold Box Deal of the Day: Up to 53% Off Select Criterion Collection Titles

Includes the Zatoichi set, Rififi, Nashville, Seconds and Repoman, among others.

Giles 03-06-14 03:43 PM

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speaking of TESS

Spoiler:
she got the wrong end of the shit stick - wow - that ending just hits you in the head


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