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Sondheim 10-15-12 02:19 PM

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I don't know for sure, but I imagine he's probably just a fan of the film. He also provided a commentary for the Masters of Cinema release of Dreyer's Vampyr.

riotinmyskull 10-15-12 02:22 PM

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MWKTM and TWO LANE BLACKTOP shall both be mine

Mike86 10-15-12 02:23 PM

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Meh nothing I need to rush out for that month. I might get The Man Who Knew Too Much eventually but that's it.

Sondheim 10-15-12 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by BuckNaked2k (Post 11427136)
Any comments on the Tarkovsky film? I'm only familiar with Solaris.

I like it, but not as much as some of his later masterpieces.

It's his first feature length film, so it's not quite as stylistically audacious as what was to come. However it's still visually striking, and it has a more accessible storyline than any of his other films. It's also a lot faster paced.

PopcornTreeCt 10-15-12 03:05 PM

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Pina is in 3D and $10 more. Cool.

nitin77 10-15-12 05:39 PM

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In for TMWKTM and Ivans Childhood which has my favorite bit of cinematography ever (for those that have seen it, the tracking shots in the forest following the courtship of Masha).

Will wait for comparison reviews of Tin Drum and Two Lane Blacktop, I suspect at least the former might be superior given that Arrow put both cuts on one disc.

Superdaddy 10-15-12 06:22 PM

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Two Lane Blacktop and another Hitchcock makes a good month in my book. I have the DVD of the former though, so will be patient about upgrading. Too many other CCs I don't own at all that are grabbing my attention.

asianxcore 10-15-12 07:37 PM

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Glad I held off on getting Two-Lane Blacktop on DVD.

Why So Blu? 10-15-12 08:25 PM

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Two Lane Black Top. It's available via Eureka and the Masters of Cinema label, so I wonder what the differences are?

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Two-Lane-Bla...0350705&sr=8-2

BuckNaked2k 10-15-12 08:37 PM

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^ or in a steelie if you prefer :rock2:

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/...500_AA300_.jpg

islandclaws 10-16-12 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by riotinmyskull (Post 11427195)
MWKTM and TWO LANE BLACKTOP shall both be mine

Yep. Surprised by Two Lane.

bse 10-16-12 07:55 PM

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The Devils Backbone was confirmed by Criterion producers tonight in Columbus.

bse 10-16-12 07:57 PM

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From someone on the Criterion facebook:


Wexler Center rundown: Les Miserables and The Jungle Book will eventually make the jump from Eclipse set to CC mainline. "Life and Death of Col.Blimp" AND "Richard III" are going Blu in 2013. Unclear if Le Samourai going Blu. No forthcoming Andrei R. Blu. Schlesinger's "Darling" will NOT be coming. NO more Passolini. 2013 releases: Soah, Badlands, Devil's Backbone (mid-'13). Also "some" Ray in 2013 but NOT Apu Trilogy. And "On the Waterfront" will have 3 aspect ratios on its 2013 release.

Also Criterion news from Wex.Center pannel discussion tonight: WarnerBrothers deal reached but not clear on what besides Malick's "Badlands" and one "Pre-code" title.

islandclaws 10-16-12 07:58 PM

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Le Samourai "unclear"? Make it clear, dammit!

NoirFan 10-16-12 08:29 PM

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Wow, Criterion going the Touch of Evil route on On the Waterfront, should prove interesting. I wonder what the pre-Code will be - I'm going to guess I am a Fugitive from a Chain Gang.

riotinmyskull 10-16-12 09:03 PM

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ohhhhhhh DEVIL'S BACKBONE :thumbsup:

Solid Snake 10-16-12 09:11 PM

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YES! More Del Toro! Now give me Y Tu Mama Tambien and Thief goddamnit, CC.

Why So Blu? 10-16-12 10:08 PM

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Good news on Devil's Backbone getting the CC treatment. I already have the UK import of it, so that'll hold me over until mid 2013.

PopcornTreeCt 10-16-12 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by bse (Post 11429426)
From someone on the Criterion facebook:


Wexler Center rundown: Les Miserables and The Jungle Book will eventually make the jump from Eclipse set to CC mainline. "Life and Death of Col.Blimp" AND "Richard III" are going Blu in 2013. Unclear if Le Samourai going Blu. No forthcoming Andrei R. Blu. Schlesinger's "Darling" will NOT be coming. NO more Passolini. 2013 releases: Soah, Badlands, Devil's Backbone (mid-'13). Also "some" Ray in 2013 but NOT Apu Trilogy. And "On the Waterfront" will have 3 aspect ratios on its 2013 release.

Also Criterion news from Wex.Center pannel discussion tonight: WarnerBrothers deal reached but not clear on what besides Malick's "Badlands" and one "Pre-code" title.

Do you mean Shoah?

Dr. Mantle 10-16-12 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by bse (Post 11429426)
From someone on the Criterion facebook:


Wexler Center rundown: Les Miserables and The Jungle Book will eventually make the jump from Eclipse set to CC mainline. "Life and Death of Col.Blimp" AND "Richard III" are going Blu in 2013. Unclear if Le Samourai going Blu. No forthcoming Andrei R. Blu. Schlesinger's "Darling" will NOT be coming. NO more Passolini. 2013 releases: Soah, Badlands, Devil's Backbone (mid-'13). Also "some" Ray in 2013 but NOT Apu Trilogy. And "On the Waterfront" will have 3 aspect ratios on its 2013 release.

Also Criterion news from Wex.Center pannel discussion tonight: WarnerBrothers deal reached but not clear on what besides Malick's "Badlands" and one "Pre-code" title.

Too bad about Rublev. Apart from just being a great film, the CC DVD is non-anamorphic 2.35:1.

I assume "Soah" is meant to be Shoah.

andicus 10-17-12 01:51 AM

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Originally Posted by bse (Post 11429425)
The Devils Backbone was confirmed by Criterion producers tonight in Columbus.

Awesome news!

nitin77 10-17-12 06:12 AM

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very interested in what the pre-code will be.

Doctorossi 10-17-12 08:22 AM

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Great to hear that Blimp is around the corner!

asianxcore 10-17-12 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by bse (Post 11429425)
The Devils Backbone was confirmed by Criterion producers tonight in Columbus.

:banana:

JayDerek 10-17-12 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by nitin77 (Post 11429965)
very interested in what the pre-code will be.

hopefully Freaks!

Sondheim 10-17-12 10:16 AM

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To be clear, they apparently said that the Apu Trilogy is forthcoming, but that it might not be out in 2013 and that we will probably get another Ray film in the meantime.

Excited about the Ray film and the Warner deal. Freaking heartbroken about Andrei Rublev, my favorite film. (Maybe I will just have to import the Russian BD.)

Doctorossi 10-17-12 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Sondheim (Post 11430204)
Freaking heartbroken about Andrei Rublev, my favorite film.

Did they say they've lost rights to it or that it's just not on the radar for 2013?

Sondheim 10-17-12 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Doctorossi (Post 11430382)
Did they say they've lost rights to it or that it's just not on the radar for 2013?

No, I'm sure they still have the rights. I've been just waiting for an updated version for a long time and I'm getting kind of impatient to replace the old, not very high-quality DVD.

wahlers 10-17-12 12:00 PM

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Very excited about Devil's Backbone. :)

I wonder if they will want to (or be able to) include all the supplements from both DVD versions?

Neeb 10-17-12 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by nitin77 (Post 11429965)
very interested in what the pre-code will be.

GREED? THE WIND? There are any number of silent films that it could be.

bse 10-17-12 07:58 PM

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They have said multiple times in the past that a lot of the elements needed for an HD transfer of Andrei Rublev have been lost.

NoirFan 10-17-12 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Neeb (Post 11431070)
GREED? THE WIND? There are any number of silent films that it could be.

The pre-code period was 1930-1934.

Giles 10-17-12 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by riotinmyskull (Post 11429530)
ohhhhhhh DEVIL'S BACKBONE :thumbsup:


I wonder which commentary track will appear on the Criterion edition, or if will be a new 'third' one.

nitin77 10-18-12 04:13 AM

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I wish it was Trouble in Paradise although since MoC skipped making it blu, I can only imagine the source is not in good shape.

So next wish is something like Baby Face.

Giles 10-18-12 08:40 AM

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what's the hold up of Jean Renoir's The River - watch, when I buy the import, Criterion will officially announce it (just my constant misluck).

Adam Tyner 10-18-12 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by bse (Post 11431080)
They have said multiple times in the past that a lot of the elements needed for an HD transfer of Andrei Rublev have been lost.

For that longer version, yes, but there's still the three hour cut that scored a rather gorgeous release on Blu-ray by Mosfilm/Digital Element. It's not an invalid or inherently inferior cut, although an ideal release would include every possible version. (Did Vadim Yusov ever finish a cut that combined some of the censored footage with the improved editing of the theatrical release?)

Quake1028 10-18-12 09:51 AM

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http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Rashom.../53148/#Review

Mabuse 10-18-12 10:45 AM

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I didn't know there was controversy about On the Waterfront's aspect ratio.

milo bloom 10-22-12 02:22 PM

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Hope you all don't mind, but since most of the Criterion discussion happens here I was wondering if I could bother you all for a thought about the DVD versions.

I've taken advantage of the fact that Criterion has started re-issuing titles on Bluray to start watching for some of the DVDs to show up in the used market, and I have started to pick up a few of these here and there. But I know that even Criterion wasn't all that at first, and put out many non-anamorphic transfers, or just bad looking transfers in their early days. Was there a spine# that anyone would consider a cutoff for where they turned things around? I usually have my iPhone with me and can look up some reviews, but would like to be able to tell at a glance if I should bother with an older release.

thanks

Randy Miller III 10-22-12 02:44 PM

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First of all, most Criterion releases have always been some of the best around in terms of extras, even during the early days. I'll admit they weren't nearly as consistent back then, though, as some discs were pretty much barebones with lackluster non-anamorphic transfers. Some split the difference, like <i>Brazil</i>: the original boxed set had tons of great extras but the A/V quality was lacking. A few of these less impressive efforts stemmed from a lack of available extras or less-than-desirable source elements, but most were simply Laserdisc ports since Criterion hadn't committed to DVD yet.

One major milestone occurred with <i>Insomnia</i> (spine #47 - the Norwegian original, not the Nolan remake), which was the first Criterion disc to use an anamorphic transfer. After that, they started to become more consistent in their presentation quality...and today, they rarely put out anything less than a top quality package (unless you don't like the movie, of course).

A footnote: some of the earlier Criterions have since been re-released on Blu-Ray and/or DVD with the same spine numbers (<i>Brazil, Beauty and the Beast</i>, most everything by Kurosawa), so if the cover looks different than the Criterion website it's probably an older version.


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