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kefrank 09-27-08 04:29 PM


Originally Posted by PopcornTreeCt (Post 8967448)
Well, the theatrical posters weren't too great either.

I strongly disagree (but hey, it's aesthetics and everyone has different taste). I thought almost all of the posters were awesome. Even if the movie had sucked, I'd still vote the Dark Knight as best collection of theatrical poster art for the year.

GenPion 09-27-08 05:04 PM

I like how that sheet uses a quote from Christopher Nolan to try and sell the Blu-ray edition.

Zen Peckinpah 09-27-08 06:09 PM


Originally Posted by PopcornTreeCt (Post 8967448)
Well, the theatrical posters weren't too great either.

And, uh, why so serious.

NiCK Crush 09-27-08 07:02 PM

Comingsoon.net reporting that there may be multiple slipcovers released in stores...

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=49164

clckworang 09-28-08 03:03 AM

Count me as another one who liked pretty much all of the theatrical posters EXCEPT for the one with the Batpod. Can't believe they decided to use that one on the Blu-ray. Bring on the customer cover designs!

E Unit 09-28-08 07:41 AM

I'd settle for a reverse cover from Warner with a slipcase on top.

mdc3000 09-28-08 08:51 AM


Originally Posted by Nick Martin (Post 8967088)
[IMG]Shame they don't go into more detail about the content but at least it confirms IMAX and BD-Live.

It confirms that the actual movie will just be 2.40 and the IMAX footage will only be in the bonus features. Sounds good to me.

Walker Boh 09-28-08 09:03 AM


Originally Posted by mdc3000 (Post 8968617)
It confirms that the actual movie will just be 2.40 and the IMAX footage will only be in the bonus features. Sounds good to me.

Am I missing something? I don't see anything that confirms that the IMAX footage won't be integrated into the Blu-ray version of the movie.

AmonTwin 09-28-08 10:51 AM

From Dark Horizons:

Director Christopher Nolan has confirmed that on the Blu-ray release, the film will swap between a 2.40:1 aspect ratio for scenes shot on 35mm and full sized widescreen 1.78:1 for the IMAX scenes (IMAX is shot in 1.66:1 so a little bit of the top and bottom of the IMAX image will be lost).

http://www.darkhorizons.com/news08/080927f.php

However, I always thought that IMAX was something like 1.44:1.

Nick Martin 09-28-08 11:11 AM

I think the IMAX scenes will be in the special features - therefore separate from the film - on the DVD version only, while they will be integrated into the film on the Blu-ray.

Of course they could still to the shifting AR on DVD - nothing to stop them from doing that as its not restricted to BD capabilities or space.

I fully welcome the shifting AR on the BD, and won't find it distracting.

fumanstan 09-28-08 11:25 AM


Originally Posted by AmonTwin (Post 8968754)
From Dark Horizons:

Director Christopher Nolan has confirmed that on the Blu-ray release, the film will swap between a 2.40:1 aspect ratio for scenes shot on 35mm and full sized widescreen 1.78:1 for the IMAX scenes (IMAX is shot in 1.66:1 so a little bit of the top and bottom of the IMAX image will be lost).

http://www.darkhorizons.com/news08/080927f.php

However, I always thought that IMAX was something like 1.44:1.

I think we know that, as that news was first mentioned months ago. But I think the point is that there's no indication whether that is actually the case based on the pictures of the DVD and Blu-ray.

Director's say a lot of things about the DVD releases that never come to pass.

gryffinmaster 09-28-08 11:25 AM

Count me in for whatever retailer that releases the Blu-ray with this art as the slipcover:

http://ui05.gamespot.com/900/hrthedarkknight43_2.jpg

NiCK Crush 09-28-08 12:22 PM

This, as a Steelbook, would be perfect...

http://www.iwatchstuff.com/2007/12/0...ous-poster.jpg

OldWhore'sDiet 09-28-08 03:11 PM

This definitely looks badass, if only...

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r...fslipcover.jpg

Zen Peckinpah 09-28-08 04:31 PM


Originally Posted by NiCK Crush (Post 8968873)
This, as a Steelbook, would be perfect...

http://www.iwatchstuff.com/2007/12/0...ous-poster.jpg

This was the background on my phone for MONTHS.

mdc3000 09-28-08 06:11 PM


Originally Posted by Walker Boh (Post 8968624)
Am I missing something? I don't see anything that confirms that the IMAX footage won't be integrated into the Blu-ray version of the movie.

DVDactive has the back cover art, which lists the ratio for the feature as 2.40, not a shifting ratio, which would indicate the IMAX footage is only in the bonus features, as per that ad...

kefrank 09-28-08 07:58 PM


Originally Posted by mdc3000 (Post 8969636)
DVDactive has the back cover art, which lists the ratio for the feature as 2.40, not a shifting ratio, which would indicate the IMAX footage is only in the bonus features, as per that ad...

I think some of you are confused. Under the BD on the press sheet, it says, "includes action packed IMAX framed sequences." I take that to mean the IMAX framed sequences are integrated into the movie, for a number of reasons. One, if they weren't integrated into the movie, then it would have the same description as the SD does below that, which is, "a look at the revolutionary IMAX scenes." Also, it wouldn't be a standalone statement under the BD, but rather listed as an extra feature beside it on the press sheet.

Additionally, I don't think the fact that it says "2.4:1" on the back cover image means there won't be shifting aspect ratios. Right next to 2.4:1 it says, "16x9" which is what the IMAX footage would be at, if they do what Nolan said they were going to do.

Ultimately, I don't think the press sheet gives a definitive answer to any of us on what will be presented, but I think it at leasts suggests integrated IMAX framed sequences in the movie itself.

clckworang 09-28-08 09:53 PM


Originally Posted by OldWhore'sDiet (Post 8969223)
This definitely looks badass, if only...

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r...fslipcover.jpg

This was the exact poster I had in mind when I was thinking of my ideal cover art. This would be perfect.

Yavin 09-29-08 08:36 AM

What's the deal with the 2-disc Batpod Blu-ray edition (as seen on DVDActive)? Not even a standard case for the film - the discs have to go in that custom holder that doubles as the display base for the batpod replica? hmmm ... :(

mdc3000 09-29-08 09:11 AM


Originally Posted by kefrank (Post 8969804)
Additionally, I don't think the fact that it says "2.4:1" on the back cover image means there won't be shifting aspect ratios. Right next to 2.4:1 it says, "16x9" which is what the IMAX footage would be at, if they do what Nolan said they were going to do.

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ALL Warner releases say 16x9 beside the ratio. Take a look at any of their blu-ray discs, I don't think we can use that as an indicator. I know that Nolan was pretty sure the IMAX would be integrated onto the disc, but I see no indication from this back cover or other materials that that is actually the case... we'll have to wait and see if Warner clears it up.

I would have expected the ratio on the back to look something like Enchanted, which had a shifting ratio.
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Giles 09-29-08 09:23 AM

I really didn't care for the shifting aspect ratio, I hope it's consistent at 2.40

applesandrice 09-29-08 09:33 AM


Originally Posted by Giles (Post 8970663)
I really didn't care for the shifting aspect ratio, I hope it's consistent at 2.40

On Saturday I placed an order for crystal wedge prisms to use in building an anamorphic lens for my projector, so -- by golly -- it's gonna be 2.40:1 the whole way through for me!;)

I can't wait!!

kefrank 09-29-08 12:27 PM


Originally Posted by mdc3000 (Post 8970629)
ALL Warner releases say 16x9 beside the ratio. Take a look at any of their blu-ray discs, I don't think we can use that as an indicator. I know that Nolan was pretty sure the IMAX would be integrated onto the disc, but I see no indication from this back cover or other materials that that is actually the case... we'll have to wait and see if Warner clears it up.

My point wasn't that "16x9" being there guarantees a shifting ratio, but rather that the "16x9 2.4:1" wording on the back cover does not guarantee a static 2.4:1 aspect ratio. Whether "16x9" is listed the same on every other WB release is unimportant. We don't know how WB would list a shifting aspect ratio, because they haven't released one yet (to my knowledge anyway).


I would have expected the ratio on the back to look something like Enchanted, which had a shifting ratio.
Enchanted was not a WB title. Furthermore, WB is fairly notorious for having incomplete information on their early back cover art. My only point is that from the information available so far, we simply don't know if there will be a shifting ratio or not.

Giles 09-29-08 12:38 PM


Originally Posted by kefrank (Post 8971089)
My point wasn't that "16x9" being there guarantees a shifting ratio, but rather that the "16x9 2.4:1" wording on the back cover does not guarantee a static 2.4:1 aspect ratio. Whether "16x9" is listed the same on every other WB release is unimportant. We don't know how WB would list a shifting aspect ratio, because they haven't released one yet (to my knowledge anyway).


Enchanted was not a WB title. Furthermore, WB is fairly notorious for having incomplete information on their early back cover art. My only point is that from the information available so far, we simply don't know if there will be a shifting ratio or not.

I think mdc3000 knows that, he was just using that as an example as to how the info might be posted if and when WB confirms if the disc will be multi aspect ratio.

My Other Self 09-29-08 12:39 PM

This release is going to be insane. I only have myself to buy for the holiday season so bring on the exclusives. :D

mdc3000 09-29-08 12:45 PM


Originally Posted by kefrank (Post 8971089)
My point wasn't that "16x9" being there guarantees a shifting ratio, but rather that the "16x9 2.4:1" wording on the back cover does not guarantee a static 2.4:1 aspect ratio. Whether "16x9" is listed the same on every other WB release is unimportant.

It might not guarantee a static release but saying that it is unimportant that ALL releases have it makes your first point moot - you brought it up as if it was something special and I was just showing that it certainly isn't an indicator EITHER WAY.

Yes, WB's temp art sometimes messes up sound specs and ratios so like I said earlier, we'll have to wait and see. Of course Enchanted isn't WB but like Giles pointed out, I was citing it as an example of what WB would probably do. I say we table this until another press release or other info CONFIRMS either way...

Mr. Cinema 09-29-08 12:47 PM

If there's one title that will help get new BD owners, it's this one. I just hope they price it around $19.99 on release week. It'd be nice to see for once.

Giles 09-29-08 12:51 PM


Originally Posted by mdc3000 (Post 8971125)
It might not guarantee a static release but saying that it is unimportant that ALL releases have it makes your first point moot - you brought it up as if it was something special and I was just showing that it certainly isn't an indicator EITHER WAY.

Yes, WB's temp art sometimes messes up sound specs and ratios so like I said earlier, we'll have to wait and see. Of course Enchanted isn't WB but like Giles pointed out, I was citing it as an example of what WB would probably do. I say we table this until another press release or other info CONFIRMS either way...

I think the only other blu-ray release from Warner's that lists multiple aspect ratios is the That's Entertainment discs where nearly every aspect ratio is listed 1.33 to 2.55 in a single film.

Qui Gon Jim 09-29-08 01:49 PM


Originally Posted by Mr. Cinema (Post 8971132)
If there's one title that will help get new BD owners, it's this one. I just hope they price it around $19.99 on release week. It'd be nice to see for once.

I'm in no matter what, but that would put a big smile on my face.

sauce07 09-29-08 02:43 PM

I'm down for the basic edition, The bat-bike looks cool but the case for the discs is horrible, really bad decision by WB (whats new?)

Giles 09-29-08 02:48 PM


Originally Posted by sauce07 (Post 8971482)
I'm down for the basic edition, The bat-bike looks cool but the case for the discs is horrible, really bad decision by WB (whats new?)

not much


-ohbfrank-

Gizmo 09-29-08 03:06 PM


Originally Posted by Mr. Cinema (Post 8971132)
If there's one title that will help get new BD owners, it's this one. I just hope they price it around $19.99 on release week. It'd be nice to see for once.

I'd love Warner if they did that, but c'mon, its Warner, do you really expect that? I have no doubt this will be BD's biggest release of the year so they better make sure they don't fuck this release up.

Mr. Cinema 09-29-08 03:25 PM


Originally Posted by GizmoDVD (Post 8971557)
I'd love Warner if they did that, but c'mon, its Warner, do you really expect that? I have no doubt this will be BD's biggest release of the year so they better make sure they don't fuck this release up.

They've sold I Am Legend at $18.99 on Amazon since it was released. I have higher hopes of them doing discounted pricing over the other studios. They did it with The Matrix, I believe.

kefrank 09-30-08 11:26 AM

For what it's worth, Bill Hunt confirms with WB that there will be shifting aspect ratios on the Blu-ray:

Originally Posted by thedigitalbits.com
In the meantime however, a LOT of you have sent in e-mails asking how the aspect ratio is going to work on the DVD and Blu-ray Disc editions of The Dark Knight (due 12/9). I've just heard back from Warner Home Video on this, so here's the deal: The widescreen versions of the DVD will present the film in a 2.40:1 anamorphic widescreen aspect ratio, reproducing the standard theatrical experience of the film. For the Blu-ray Disc however, while most of the film will also be presented in the 2.40:1 anamorphic widescreen ratio, the scenes that were specifically shot in IMAX format will be presented at 1.78:1, which will fill the frame and will thus recreate the IMAX experience at home. So there you have it. Should be cool, and we obviously can't wait to get our hands on the discs.


Nick Martin 09-30-08 12:34 PM

VERY happy to know that the shifting AR is confirmed. :)

fumanstan 09-30-08 12:38 PM

Cool.

mdc3000 09-30-08 12:53 PM

There we have it - glad to see hard confirmation. They definitely should fix the back of the blu-ray box art then...

kms_md 09-30-08 12:56 PM

good news on the shifting AR. thanks for the heads up.

Supermallet 09-30-08 03:35 PM

:up: :up: To that news.

kefrank 09-30-08 05:16 PM

After the news from Bill Hunt, I'm cautiously optimistic that there will really be shifting aspect ratios, but I can't really consider it a definite yet, considering the other internal communication problems we've seen in the past at WB. At least someone at WB thinks that's how it will be, so I hope it's really true.


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