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Originally Posted by RocShemp
(Post 9118523)
I certainly wish I'd seen the BD release Robert Harris saw because "unequivocally, undeniably and absolutely gorgeous in every way" does not describe the transfer on the BD I rented. :(
How dare you question Mr. Harris' critique of TDK. Are you mad? ;) |
Originally Posted by DthRdrX
(Post 9118709)
I have to admit that this one makes no sense. A lot of the reviews are praising it while individual users seem to be damning it. If the transfer can be improved, I'm going to wonder if WB did it on purpose so they can resell the title over in the future. I can't see any reason that this release, given it's importance at hooking new Blu-ray buyers, should have poor video.
Don't forget to pickup your latest SW reissues. :D |
Even if the video isn't pristine, it hardly doesn't seem poor enough to prevent a purchase.
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Originally Posted by pro-bassoonist
(Post 9118417)
Mr. Robert Harris, motion picture archivist:
Have a great week, and enjoy this highly anticipated release! To the folks at AVS...perhaps next time!! Pro-B ;) |
Originally Posted by DthRdrX
(Post 9118709)
I have to admit that this one makes no sense. A lot of the reviews are praising it while individual users seem to be damning it. If the transfer can be improved, I'm going to wonder if WB did it on purpose so they can resell the title over in the future. I can't see any reason that this release, given it's importance at hooking new Blu-ray buyers, should have poor video.
That said, the word is that the EE may have been done for the IMAX prints, so it's in the source they used. It's more acceptable in that context, but I still find it to be disappointing. The transfer is still good, but it isn't top quality IMHO. |
I've bought crappy full frame versions of movies far worse than this. A video rating that is not perfect will not keep me from buying this and enjoying the "movie" at least a few more times. I know some people expect perfection but damn if I don't clearly remember watching tv on my 13" as a kid and being satisfied with what I was watching. Enjoy it for what it is and if WB decides down the road that they want to re-release it with an improved transfer then we will cross that bridge when it gets here. It is not like any of us have never bought the same movie twice because the video (or audio) was improved the second time around. Fly fat ass fly!!!
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I'd agree with that to a point. Of course, WB was not adding doing this with their early releases. It is as if they have decided on a new tactic to release titles in the future without messing with the image. (Same for adding Lossless audio to many titles.)
Anyway, the good news is that my copy of TDK is out for delivery via UPS. The bad news is that it is shown as being over 120 miles away from my house! |
My copy is here from WB! I'm going to go check this thing out in a few moments!
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I tried to cancel, but I just got an email letting me know that they couldn't cancel because it shipped out on the 6th (a day or two after I asked them to cancel the order).
The good thing is that I'm pretty sure it was delivered today, so it's a good thing they didn't cancel it after all. :lol: |
Originally Posted by gryffinmaster
(Post 9102872)
It's a $3 off coupon that says "Own It On DVD", with no mention of the Blu-ray anywhere on the materials. There are, however, separate barcodes for the "Widescreen" and "Fullscreen" editions. So, it might take a little talking to get this to work for the Blu-ray release -- but most will probably let it slide since the BD will earn the store more money.
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I forgot I pre-ordered it. I was trying to decide where to buy this from tomorrow and I got a shipping notification from Amazon today. I guess my decision has been made.
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Originally Posted by RocShemp
(Post 9118385)
I rented the BD yesterday and after watching it twice... Count me out. :(
Yes, there's some DNR but it's only in a few spots. The edge enhancement, though not omnipresent, appears with enough frequency as to be distracting. But the worst offender is how misshandled the contrast is. I've watched the IMAX prologue on my Batman Begins BD countless times before and since The Dark Knight was released in theaters. The moment I saw the opening areal shot on the BD of The Dark Knight, I knew something was off. Everything seemed darker. Too dark. In turn, the colors (particularly fleshtones) looked off. Now The Dark Knight, much like Batman Begins has a muted color scheme with a slight orange push for certain interior scenes. That was accurately represented in the prologue as seen in the Batman Begins BD. Not so with the BD of The Dark Knight. The problem is present throughout the whole feature to the point that people oftentimes tend to look an unnatural shade of pink. Just look at when Alfred is talking to Bruce about getting a plane for his trip to Hong Kong. It looks wrong. This is a very disappointing transfer so I'm definitely not purchasing it and will hope for the best regarding an eventual re-release in a year or two. That said, the audio was fantastic. I can't believe other reviewers are not mentioning it but RocShemp nailed the problem with this disc. The picture is darkened considerably. |
Originally Posted by RocShemp
(Post 9118385)
I've watched the IMAX prologue on my Batman Begins BD countless times before and since The Dark Knight was released in theaters. The moment I saw the opening areal shot on the BD of The Dark Knight, I knew something was off. Everything seemed darker. Too dark. In turn, the colors (particularly fleshtones) looked off. Now The Dark Knight, much like Batman Begins has a muted color scheme with a slight orange push for certain interior scenes. That was accurately represented in the prologue as seen in the Batman Begins BD. Not so with the BD of The Dark Knight.
The problem is present throughout the whole feature to the point that people oftentimes tend to look an unnatural shade of pink. Just look at when Alfred is talking to Bruce about getting a plane for his trip to Hong Kong. It looks wrong. 1) Are you sure this isn't a display calibration issue? 2) Just because the Blu-ray is timed differently than the prologue footage on the Batman Begins disc, are you sure that means that it's wrong? Is it possible that the BB prologue was a quickie transfer just to get a bonus feature slapped on a disc, while the final Blu-ray transfer has been tweaked and refined per the filmmakers' wishes? |
Josh my projector is calibrated and I really can't remember seeing a problem like this with any other discs. It is possible that Nolan reworked the film a little but I honestly had problems seeing any detail in the actor's clothes. I don't recall this when I saw the film via 35mm or IMAX.
I'll hook it up to my CRT when I get a chance and see what it looks like. |
Originally Posted by Josh Z
(Post 9120050)
...while the final Blu-ray transfer has been tweaked and refined per the filmmakers' wishes?
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There was a little present from WHV waiting on my doorstep when I got home today.
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Originally Posted by T-bone22
(Post 9120106)
There was a little present from WHV waiting on my doorstep when I got home today.
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Mine did indeed show up today, with the Austin Powers set, woohoo!
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Originally Posted by DthRdrX
(Post 9118707)
We both have thousands of posts on a dvd message board. Apparently I'm not the only one who needs help. :)
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I haven't seen the disc in question (would help if I had a BR player ;) ), but I find it very surprising - around here no less - at the number of people essentially saying, "Oh well. I'll buy it anyway even if it's wrong and then buy another version later on." You clearly have the right to exercise that action, but I hope to never see any of you complain of a double-dip in the future (assuming you have in the past).
I'll also echo Josh's question on why the film is faulty rather than the IMAX promo. What was the amount of space used on the disc and by the segment itself on the IMAX feature? Perhpas the maximum amount of space was used and therefore much less compression than regular BR content? |
Originally Posted by edstein
(Post 9120527)
No ill intended. Just a little smack talk. I own 4 or 5 versions of Star Wars and Dune myself. I just didn't buy them all at the same time.
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Originally Posted by Superman07
(Post 9120584)
I haven't seen the disc in question (would help if I had a BR player ;) ), but I find it very surprising - around here no less - at the number of people essentially saying, "Oh well. I'll buy it anyway even if it's wrong and then buy another version later on." You clearly have the right to exercise that action, but I hope to never see any of you complain of a double-dip in the future (assuming you have in the past).
There's also no guarantee that there will be a double dip, let alone any time in the next 1 or 2 years. In that time, I know this disc will get plenty of enjoyment so it seems more then worth it. |
Originally Posted by Superman07
(Post 9120584)
I'll also echo Josh's question on why the film is faulty rather than the IMAX promo. What was the amount of space used on the disc and by the segment itself on the IMAX feature? Perhpas the maximum amount of space was used and therefore much less compression than regular BR content?
The main problem I keep on observing time and time again...is consistency. And studios just don't have it yet when it comes to HD--never had it when it came to DVD either, so why should we notice a difference now. I think only Disney is consistent with their releases (not entirely sure however, and feel free to correct me). It would be nice if we had studios put the actual name of the person(s) doing the critical transfer to HD, and what department (and no, I don't want to scroll through the credits and try to decode the titles of the employees). This would say a lot when we would be flipping through our rather expensive Blu-ray collections, trying to figure out why a particular studio's films are inconsistent. |
Originally Posted by fumanstan
(Post 9120673)
I'm more surprised at people saying they won't buy this now because the video quality isn't perfect and demo material. As another person said, they've probably boughten other films with less then stellar pictures, even on Blu-ray or HD-DVD.
There's also no guarantee that there will be a double dip, let alone any time in the next 1 or 2 years. In that time, I know this disc will get plenty of enjoyment so it seems more then worth it. A stark difference than, "Hey, TDK is just awesome on Blu! Colors are vibrant! Images pop! This is one of the best Blu's ever! Buy it!!1144!" And then you fork out nearly $30 for the fucker, and you see some things which make you question the high marks. Again, I haven't seen the film, but this what others seem to be saying. |
Originally Posted by DVD Polizei
(Post 9120720)
People have purchased less-than-stellar titles, but the difference, is those titles weren't rated as high, and the viewer knew what to expect. It's one thing to say hey this Blu-ray title is a 3.5 out of 5 in video quality, but it does have its moments, and if you're a fan of the film, it's better than anything else you have on DVD.
A stark difference than, "Hey, TDK is just awesome on Blu! Colors are vibrant! Images pop! This is one of the best Blu's ever! Buy it!!1144!" And then you fork out nearly $30 for the fucker, and you see some things which make you question the high marks. Again, I haven't seen the film, but this what others seem to be saying. |
I think only Disney is consistent with their releases (not entirely sure however, and feel free to correct me). |
Yes!
I finally have my copy. |
Got mine from the midnight release at Best Buy. I just popped it in to catch a few scenes and think it looks pretty good, although i'm not a very big videophile and would be one of the last guys to be pointing out edge enhancement and what not.
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The promo on the Begins Blu-Ray wasn't the final color pallete for the finished film. I had the exact same reaction when Begins hit Blu-Ray a week before this film came out and I watched that promo constantly.
The final color pallete, especially in the opening six minutes, is darker. It's not wrong. |
Originally Posted by DthRdrX
(Post 9120011)
Ok, heres the deal. The EE is very noticable. However, that is not the biggest problem.
I can't believe other reviewers are not mentioning it but RocShemp nailed the problem with this disc. The picture is darkened considerably. |
Papa John's coupon update:
Swung by Target quickly this morning, went to the cash register, and the coupon just scanned right in without any adjustments. Walked out of there paying $21.99 for the standard Blu-ray edition. :up: F.Y.I. -- Plenty of people were snatching up the mask packaging while I was there. Looks like it might not be quite as sluggish as the Iron Man set. |
Wow, really? I thought sure they'd only redeem it for the DVD, not the BD.
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Originally Posted by Jumpman
(Post 9120998)
The promo on the Begins Blu-Ray wasn't the final color pallete for the finished film. I had the exact same reaction when Begins hit Blu-Ray a week before this film came out and I watched that promo constantly.
The final color pallete, especially in the opening six minutes, is darker. It's not wrong. |
Originally Posted by Drexl
(Post 9121121)
Wow, really? I thought sure they'd only redeem it for the DVD, not the BD.
By the way, I feel where you guys are coming from with those three-disc Blu-ray cases. :down::down: I can barely get either of them off of the tray. I'll be tossing aside the Digital Copy disc and replacing it with a two-disc Blu-ray case. |
I picked up my copy this morning at Target. Luckily, my case wasn't broken. I wish Warner Bros. would switch to something else instead of that flimsy tray.
When I was in line, 2 guys in front of me, who looked like they were in the early 20s, were both purchasing the full screen dvd edition. :rolleyes: |
Originally Posted by Mr. Cinema
(Post 9121156)
I picked up my copy this morning at Target. Luckily, my case wasn't broken. I wish Warner Bros. would switch to something else instead of that flimsy tray.
When I was in line, 2 guys in front of me, who looked like they were in the early 20s, were both purchasing the full screen dvd edition. :rolleyes: oh my god, when will they learn... -ohbfrank- |
Got the Steelbook and really like it - the back with the Joker is awesome and no flimsy tray as the digital copy is just in a paper sleeve inside.
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Went to Best Buy first thing this morning. I was second one thru the doors. They only had about 10 batman and joker figures, and 5 batbod sets. Both sold out in five minutes. As I was checking out I looked over to the display and the new release rack...gone. Looks like these might be rare.
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This Blu-ray sounds very dissappointing from what most of you are saying. Sucks.
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It isn't. It isn't perfect but it's still looks pretty damn great.
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