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matome 01-31-08 10:20 AM

Surround Records to start releasing in Blu-Ray
 
http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/sh...at_Format/1411


Surround Records Announces Dual-Format Format
Thu Jan 31, 2008 at 11:00 AM ET
Tags: Surround Records, Industry Trends (all tags)

Indie distributor Surround Records has announced it will begin rolling out Blu-ray editions of its previously-issued HD DVD titles this Spring.

The previously HD DVD-exclusive label has issued a half a dozen multichannel audio releases since making its high-def debut this past summer with 'Uncommon Bach.' It now says it will expand its high-def disc support to include Blu-ray in addition to HD DVD.

Though multichannel audio releases (sans any significant video material) are fairly common on standard-def DVD, Surround Records is currently the only label actively releasing titles on the two next-gen disc formats.

As press time there was no word on which of Surround's titles would be first to hit Blu-ray, nor had an exact timeframe for the Blu-ray releases been set.

Drexl 01-31-08 04:25 PM

At first I thought the idea of doing audio-only was strange, that DVD had enough space, but now it kinda makes sense. With DVD-Audio or SACD, you had to look for the capability in the player, and many didn't have it. With these HDM players, every one will be capable of playing the discs (assuming they use PCM); it's just a matter of having the HDMI receiver and sound system. Even if you don't have HDMI, you could still listen to higher quality 2-channel audio through L/R analog connections (or even multichannel analog), which wasn't the case for DVD-Audio or SACD because they needed the specific hardware support.

Of course, there's still the issue of whether anyone is going to actually buy the things, but at least it's simpler from a compatibility standpoint.

Vendetta-AKK 01-31-08 08:13 PM


Originally Posted by bunkaroo
*cough* Weinstein *cough*.


I was thinking after reading this, I really could care less what the Weinstein Company does, their releases except for maybe Grindhouse have been pretty lack luster. But, I would love for Disney to start unrolling their past Miramax back catelog. There are lots of Miramax DVDs I will gladly rebuy.

The Weinstein Company has been very disappointing to me so far.

Drexl 01-31-08 09:17 PM


Originally Posted by Vendetta-AKK
I was thinking after reading this, I really could care less what the Weinstein Company does, their releases except for maybe Grindhouse have been pretty lack luster. But, I would love for Disney to start unrolling their past Miramax back catelog. There are lots of Miramax DVDs I will gladly rebuy.

The Weinstein Company has been very disappointing to me so far.

Heck, Miramax has probably put out more good titles since the Weinsteins left than the Weinsteins have with their company (The Queen, No Country for Old Men, Gone Baby Gone, The Lookout). I've also heard good things about The Hoax, but I haven't seen it.

Vendetta-AKK 01-31-08 09:22 PM


Originally Posted by Drexl
Heck, Miramax has probably put out more good titles since the Weinsteins left than the Weinsteins have with their company (The Queen, No Country for Old Men, Gone Baby Gone, The Lookout). I've also heard good things about The Hoax, but I haven't seen it.


Good point! I hadn't really even taken that into account, but you are absolutely right.

Gizmo 01-31-08 09:42 PM


Originally Posted by RoboDad
But wouldn't you agree that this sort of flies in the face of the claim that all smaller content producers favor HD DVD because of its claimed lower production cost? I don't expect any NG titles to be huge sellers, so why would they choose Blu-ray if it is not as financially sound of a decision as choosing HD DVD would have been?

Sales for the NG title were pretty bad IIRC. Planet Earth has (I still believe to this day) sold better on HD DVD then Blu-ray. Why not continue to publish movies on a format if they will sell? Obviously Warner took the money and simply cant, but BBC has a choice in the matter since. Newline has only released 1 catalog title on either format and the rest have been day and dates which they can't do on HD DVD. Though I believe Newline has to follow Warner anyway...right?

pro-bassoonist 01-31-08 11:43 PM

You could also add to the list of exclusive distribs French powerhouse MK2 (Marin Karmitz and Co.) They were previously "neutral" by releasing Truffaut's 400 Blows on HDDVD and BR.

Their next release, Gus Van Sant's Paranoid Park, which is set for an April release will arrive as a 2DVD SE, DVD, and BR.

MK2 own the rights for Chaplin and Resnais among many others. A large portion of their output is distributed by Warner-France.

Pro-B

rfduncan 02-01-08 08:41 AM


Originally Posted by GizmoDVD
Sales for the NG title were pretty bad IIRC. Planet Earth has (I still believe to this day) sold better on HD DVD then Blu-ray. Why not continue to publish movies on a format if they will sell? Obviously Warner took the money and simply cant, but BBC has a choice in the matter since. Newline has only released 1 catalog title on either format and the rest have been day and dates which they can't do on HD DVD. Though I believe Newline has to follow Warner anyway...right?

But if Warner Bros says "no more HD-DVDs being made", wouldn't that help PUSH their sales of HD-DVD since people who bought into the format will start scrambling to buy up copies of any HD-DVD titles that they were considering before they go out of print? Seems like they'll be boosting their HD-DVD sales by going Blu-ray only.

Adam Tyner 02-01-08 08:46 AM


Originally Posted by rfduncan
But if Warner Bros says "no more HD-DVDs being made", wouldn't that help PUSH their sales of HD-DVD since people who bought into the format will start scrambling to buy up copies of any HD-DVD titles that they were considering before they go out of print?

I don't remember that happening to Paramount's Blu-ray titles when they went HD DVD only. I'm sure there are some people who will gobble up Warner's HD DVD stock, but I doubt it'd be enough to be significant. If there were some sort of price drop attached, though, that could make a difference. Sales for both formats are so dismal (just varying degrees of dismal) that it doesn't take much to rocket up the sales charts.

rfduncan 02-01-08 09:18 AM


Originally Posted by Adam Tyner
I don't remember that happening to Paramount's Blu-ray titles when they went HD DVD only.

Hmm. I didn't realize that the Mission:Impossible films were OOP on Blu-ray. I should maybe hunt those down!

cardaway 02-01-08 09:50 AM


Originally Posted by rfduncan
Hmm. I didn't realize that the Mission:Impossible films were OOP on Blu-ray. I should maybe hunt those down!

I know I'm trying to hunt some of them down. I'm not really confident we'll see all those OOP discs put back into print anytime soon. They'll likely concentrate on new titles and stuff they have never released. Even if I'm wrong, better safe than sorry if you really want some of their BD titles.

bunkaroo 02-01-08 10:07 AM

When the WB thing was announced I jumped on getting all of my Paramount HD DVD's replaced with Blu-Ray's. Amazon still had all the ones I wanted in stock (all 3 M:I, Sleepy Hollow, Sky Captain, WTC) so I got lucky there, as my discount was still up as well.

Luckily I was buying Paramount on Blu all throughout 2007, so those were the only ones I had to replace.

Mr. Cinema 02-01-08 10:36 AM

Some of my Best Buys have a few Paramount BDs still in stock. I will probably pick some up eventually. Amazon also has several in stock.

Bill Geiger 02-01-08 10:41 AM

I have found in local stores every single "OOP" Paramount disc except for Shooter. Of course, all of them are listed as MSRP at FYE's and Best Buys.

cardaway 02-01-08 10:54 AM

Is there a list somewhere of the all the Paramount BDs affected?

Adam Tyner 02-01-08 10:58 AM

Everything they've released, I believe. Paramount isn't pressing more of their BDs, but the titles that are already in the wild have stayed that way. The leaked copies of Blades of Glory are all that have been expressly recalled, as far as I know.

cardaway 02-01-08 11:27 AM


Originally Posted by Adam Tyner
Everything they've released, I believe. Paramount isn't pressing more of their BDs, but the titles that are already in the wild have stayed that way. The leaked copies of Blades of Glory are all that have been expressly recalled, as far as I know.

And??? I knew that little tidbit but that's not a list of them.

Personally I don't know of anywhere that lists every release by any given studio. If such a place exists maybe it should be stuck around here somewhere. It it already stuck, I've somehow missed it.

matome 02-01-08 11:40 AM

DVDEmpire has a pretty complete sortable list. Go to their HD sections and then choose "Complete List" from the Quick links on the left column. You will then have a Studio drop down box to display titles from the studios you want.

Burnt Thru 02-01-08 11:40 AM


Originally Posted by GizmoDVD
Planet Earth has (I still believe to this day) sold better on HD DVD then Blu-ray. Why not continue to publish movies on a format if they will sell? Obviously Warner took the money and simply cant, but BBC has a choice in the matter since.

it is probably not appropriate to discuss the bbc in the context of small companies releasing on media formats since they are by far the largest (and richest) broadcasting organisation in the world.

Adam Tyner 02-01-08 11:43 AM


Originally Posted by cardaway
And??? I knew that little tidbit but that's not a list of them.

I didn't think the information was that rare or exotic. :) Here's one list: http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/para...luraylist.html

cardaway 02-01-08 11:52 AM


Originally Posted by Adam Tyner
I didn't think the information was that rare or exotic. :) Here's one list: http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/para...luraylist.html

Excuse me for not being familiar with looking up things by studio. Not something I ever had a reason to do before.

rfduncan 02-01-08 11:54 AM


Originally Posted by cardaway
Personally I don't know of anywhere that lists every release by any given studio. If such a place exists maybe it should be stuck around here somewhere. It it already stuck, I've somehow missed it.

I did a power search at dvdpricesearch.com using key word Blu-ray and studio Paramount.

Adam Tyner 02-01-08 11:58 AM


Originally Posted by cardaway
Excuse me for not being familiar with looking up things by studio. Not something I ever had a reason to do before.

Why are you taking such offense at everything I write? I took your initial post to mean that you thought only a subset of Paramount titles were out of print, so I said that it affected all of their releases. It wasn't the snub you're making it out to be.

rfduncan 02-01-08 12:17 PM


Originally Posted by Adam Tyner
Why are you taking such offense at everything I write? I took your initial post to mean that you thought only a subset of Paramount titles were out of print, so I said that it affected all of their releases. It wasn't the snub you're making it out to be.

Adam Tyner! You're bastard people! ;)

Qui Gon Jim 02-01-08 12:19 PM


Originally Posted by Adam Tyner
Why are you taking such offense at everything I write? I took your initial post to mean that you thought only a subset of Paramount titles were out of print, so I said that it affected all of their releases. It wasn't the snub you're making it out to be.

It is because you have anything less that a 1000% positive view of all things Sony, especially PS3. Notice a pattern?


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