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Old 01-21-08, 11:33 PM
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General Blu-ray News and Discussion - Part 5

Continued from part 4...

You might notice that the Blu-ray discussion is on its fifth thread, while the HD DVD discussion is only on its second. The overwhelming reason for this is because a tiny handful of particularly determined posters are hellbent on diminishing every piece of Blu-ray news, no matter how innocuous it may be.

This is thread is intended for news and discussion about Blu-ray. Criticism of the format and studios is acceptable and encouraged, but that doesn't give you carte blanche to post that "this is why your Blu-ray update doesn't matter" or blindly defending HD DVD. There are no more "...versus..." threads here, and those users who continually attempt to use this thread to that end will be suspended.

We've been overly lenient towards some obnoxious users up to this point, but the derailment at the end of the earlier thread will not happen again.

If you're not interested in Blu-ray -- and I don't care if you have a player or not -- stay away from this thread.
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Old 01-22-08, 12:03 AM
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Alright, guys, let's talk about the point of even having a Blu-ray player: HDM. Let's hear your predictions for Top 5 Blu-ray releases of 2008 (sales-wise or in terms of being a candidate for DVD Talk Collector's Series). Pan's Labyrinth got in just before the buzzer to close '07 -- what are we gonna get in '08 that will cause non-HD supporters to make the leap? You would think we'd be seeing great titles coming at a breakneck clip, but I just don't see it yet.

I personally have no huge predictions to make. I just want to comment that I hope to see many more titles announced for the 2nd quarter than what we've got now. Right now, I'm basically just looking forward to "No Country for Old Men", "Michael Clayton", "Walk Hard", "Twister", and "The Chronicles of Narnia" this year (and I think that covers stuff that has been announced up through May). Everything else I've seen announced is just going to get a Netflix rental. By comparison, when I was still buying DVDs, there were weeks when I would buy that many titles at one time. I don't even buy DVDs anymore -- just rent.

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Old 01-22-08, 12:09 AM
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the dark knight ought to come out before the end of the year. i predict it will have the biggest first-week numbers of any title so far.

of the titles with official release dates, i'm personally looking forward to:
Gattaca
No Country For Old Men
Bonnie and Clyde

but i don't think any of those will do very big numbers (though No Country ought to be respectable).
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Old 01-22-08, 12:11 AM
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I am looking forward to Lawrence of Arabia. And this is the only A-region title so far that has me excited (Run Lola Run I pre-ordered). In a month or so I will have a B-machine which clearly will make me excited about a few imports (Roman de Gare in particular and depending on initial reviews most likely Caramel).

This being said, I think it is very difficult to tell how the year will shape up as we simply have very little info thus far (my feeling is that catalog titles will be much stronger than new releases).

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My bad - I forgot Bonnie & Clyde. I will definitely purchase that.
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Originally Posted by Dane Marvin
Alright, guys, let's talk about the point of even having a Blu-ray player: HDM. Let's hear your predictions for Top 5 Blu-ray releases of 2008 (sales-wise or in terms of being a candidate for DVD Talk Collector's Series). Pan's Labyrinth got in just before the buzzer to close '07 -- what are we gonna get in '08 that will cause non-HD supporters to make the leap? You would think we'd be seeing great titles coming at a breakneck clip, but I just don't see it yet.

I personally have no huge predictions to make. I just want to comment that I hope to see many more titles announced for the 2nd quarter than what we've got now. Right now, I'm basically just looking forward to "No Country for Old Men", "Michael Clayton", "Walk Hard", and "The Chronicles of Narnia" this year. Everything else I've seen announced is just going to get a Netflix rental.
Nothing announced so far from Blu-ray has be going "Yes!". Hopefully we get X-men I & II, Magnolia, Rushmore and Fight Club later this year. I can't think of any movie this year coming into theaters that has me going "Yes!" either (but I don't follow Theatrical movies that much). Problem is, I don't see Blu-ray (or HD DVD) digging deep into their catalog to release movies I'd like to buy. Releases so far have been so damn random I don't know if were going to get Magnolia or Darkness Falls. Casee in point, GI Jane. Was anyone REALLY expecting that one so soon?

I heard a Wolverine and/or Magneto movie was coming out...any idea if its this year? If so, X-Men I and II would make snse to be released around that time.

Edit: Dark Knight is a must for me. Hopefully its better then the first movie as I thought it was pretty boring.
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Originally Posted by pro-bassoonist
(my feeling is that catalog titles will be much stronger than new releases)
really? isn't that the opposite of what we've seen so far?

i do think catalog titles will pick up considerably this year, but it seems like there will have to be tons of catalog releases for them to catch up with the big numbers that day and date titles do.

anyway, i will add to my list that if Iron Man does pretty well at the box office and gets critical reviews at least on par with Transformers, it ought to move a lot of units on BD.
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Originally Posted by GizmoDVD
Nothing announced so far from Blu-ray has be goin"Yes!". Hopefully we get X-men I & II, Magnolia, Rushmore and Fight Club later this year. I can't think of any movie this year coming into theaters that has me going "Yes!" either (but I don't follow Theatrical movies that much). Problem is, I don't see Blu-ray (or HD DVD) digging deep into their catalog to release movies I'd like to buy. Releases so far have been so damn random I don't know if were going to get Magnolia or Darkness Falls. Casee in point, GI Jane. Was anyone REALLY expecting that one so soon?

I heard a Wolverine and/or Magneto movie was coming out...any idea if its this year? If so, X-Men I and II would make snse to be released around that time.

Edit: Dark Knight is a must for me. Hopefully its better then the first movie as I thought it was pretty boring.
I don't think they're too far on the Magneto/Wolverine films, but I wouldn't rule out X-Men/X2 releases simply because of that. As for Batman Begins, I thought it was very good for a comic book to film translation. It spent the necessary amount of time building a believable backstory rather than just jumping in and getting it all wrong. The sequel should only require backstory on The Joker, and I think it will be pretty action packed. I am stoked for it, and would be downright shocked if we didn't get both Batman titles on the same release date (unless WB gives us Batman Begins around the theatrical release date of The Dark Knight!)
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Originally Posted by GizmoDVD
I heard a Wolverine and/or Magneto movie was coming out...any idea if its this year? If so, X-Men I and II would make snse to be released around that time.
X-Men:Wolverine in May 09... I hope the first two are released sometime this yr... but they might just wait until next yr.
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Originally Posted by Dane Marvin
The sequel should only require backstory on The Joker, and I think it will be pretty action packed. I am stoked for it, and would be downright shocked if we didn't get both Batman titles on the same release date (unless WB gives us Batman Begins around the theatrical release date of The Dark Knight!)
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There will be no backstory on The Joker according to Christopher Nolan.

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I can't wait to hear the score of the just announced Patton in lossless sound. Fight Club is the other title I'm waiting for in 2008.
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Didn't Fox promise the Alien flicks? Gimme.
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what blu-ray needs is a title like Raiders get the treatment like Bladerunner received to get some of the mainstream buyers interested. New Indiana movie is coming so maybe some hope sooner than later.
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Originally Posted by kefrank
anyway, i will add to my list that if Iron Man does pretty well at the box office and gets critical reviews at least on par with Transformers, it ought to move a lot of units on BD.
FYI, Iron Man, as of right now, is Paramount, which is HD DVD exclusive.
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Originally Posted by kefrank
really? isn't that the opposite of what we've seen so far?
I'm assuming he's talking about quality rather than absolute sales numbers. Otherwise, that statement doesn't reflect the trends that have been in place pretty much since the inception of home video. Recent theatrical releases have dominated sales charts for decades.
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Originally Posted by Adam Tyner
I'm assuming he's talking about quality rather than absolute sales numbers.
Indeed. It seems like the French Warner list for 2008 for example that was leaked through RAMA has plenty of titles that if done right will move a lot of units in North America. The reason why new releases sold better in 2007 is because they were the perfect promotion for one of the camps to secure a larger base of supporters. Quality catalog releases on the other hand require more time as well as a secure market to sell well, something the distribs have not exactly been graced with.

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Didn't Fox promise the Alien flicks? Gimme.
I don't think they did. I believe that was wishful thinking that morphed into a rumor they were coming.

I think the best-selling title will be (or should be) Indiana Jones ATKOTCS, assuming it's at least half as good as hoped.
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There will be no backstory on The Joker according to Christopher Nolan.
This should be spoilered.

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Okay, I've put spoiler tags both on the original post and the quote in your post.
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Originally Posted by kefrank
anyway, i will add to my list that if Iron Man does pretty well at the box office and gets critical reviews at least on par with Transformers, it ought to move a lot of units on BD.
I agree. So far all of the buzz I've heard has been nothing but positive, so when Paramount makes the jump to Blu-ray, Iron Man will be a big seller.
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The title I really want is Master & Commander: The Far Side of the World.

I also wish Fox would stop short-changing the special features (in some cases, leaving them out all together) for their Blu-Ray releases. Of course, it's for the inevitable double dip.
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I don't think they did. I believe that was wishful thinking that morphed into a rumor they were coming.

I think the best-selling title will be (or should be) Indiana Jones ATKOTCS, assuming it's at least half as good as hoped.
I thought they announced Die Hard was coming at the same time.
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It's possible that Alien and Aliens might've been mentioned in an interview or something somewhere along the line, but they had definitely never been formally announced.
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Originally Posted by pro-bassoonist
I am looking forward to Lawrence of Arabia.

The clip from the Blu-ray demo in 2006 was one of the things that started me down this HD disc buying road. Can't wait to finally buy this on Blu-ray.
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