General Blu-ray news and discussion PART 3
10-24-07 | 06:44 AM
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Originally Posted by QuePaso
pro-b wants to post pro-blu-ray posts in the BLU RAY thread, and is getting attacked for it. I dont see anyone attacking GizmoDVD, Chanster and the rest of the crew in the HD DVD thread. Why is it ALWAYS the Blu-Ray supporters being attacked non-stop at DVDTalk?
I would like to see this thread, and the other thread be transformed into informational vehicles, with a hard hammer coming down on the rhetoric.
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10-24-07 | 06:50 AM
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I am also quite fucking sick of hearing about DVDTalk's HD DVD bias. If anything, this is a place where dual support is the norm. The only people I see bitching about this percieved bias are the Harry Limes, TonyMontanas, and QuePasos of the forum. Most people want balanced discussion of topics, but these characters drag everything off topic with their BD rhetoric, especially when it is any news item that does not sound great for BD.
Also, I don't recall anyone ever complaining about the non-English post. Maybe I missed the comment or maybe the Mods deleted it before I read it. I certainly don't think it was made into a big deal.
Also, I don't recall anyone ever complaining about the non-English post. Maybe I missed the comment or maybe the Mods deleted it before I read it. I certainly don't think it was made into a big deal.
10-24-07 | 06:51 AM
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pro-b wants to post pro-blu-ray posts in the BLU RAY thread, and is getting attacked for it. I dont see anyone attacking GizmoDVD, Chanster and the rest of the crew in the HD DVD thread. Why is it ALWAYS the Blu-Ray supporters being attacked non-stop at DVDTalk?
I am not going to respond to the personal attack of me in this thread. I simply ask:
When did the Blu Ray thread become only a positive spin zone for Blu Ray - this is Blu Ray discussion, discussion implies both good and bad discussion, not just Blu Ray is the best.
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10-24-07 | 07:09 AM
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i for one would be interested to see you attempt to engage in a useful discussion of this topic. do you think that's likely to happen?
there are about 3 or 4 problem posters in this thread, some of whom have been suspended before for their antagonistic activity. perhaps it is time for them to be removed again. comments about supporting serial killers, while amusing in their insane level of format zealotry, are probably not conducive to a civilized discussion. it is an embarressment to this forum that pro-b has been singled out for such sustained attack by these hd dvd zealots, without sufficient steps being taken to rectify the situation.
there are about 3 or 4 problem posters in this thread, some of whom have been suspended before for their antagonistic activity. perhaps it is time for them to be removed again. comments about supporting serial killers, while amusing in their insane level of format zealotry, are probably not conducive to a civilized discussion. it is an embarressment to this forum that pro-b has been singled out for such sustained attack by these hd dvd zealots, without sufficient steps being taken to rectify the situation.
10-24-07 | 07:12 AM
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10-24-07 | 07:49 AM
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Anyone else see the "Best of Blu-Ray" box sets that BJ's is carrying? These seemed like a pretty good deal for the money.
10-24-07 | 09:40 AM
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They had a pretty good selection of titles. All BD. Their prices weren't terrible either, IIRC.
Media price is an area where BD is looking better and better to me. It seems like they are always on sale somewhere.
Media price is an area where BD is looking better and better to me. It seems like they are always on sale somewhere.
10-24-07 | 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Qui Gon Jim
I am also quite fucking sick of hearing about DVDTalk's HD DVD bias. If anything, this is a place where dual support is the norm. The only people I see bitching about this percieved bias are the Harry Limes, TonyMontanas, and QuePasos of the forum. Most people want balanced discussion of topics, but these characters drag everything off topic with their BD rhetoric, especially when it is any news item that does not sound great for BD.
Also, I don't recall anyone ever complaining about the non-English post. Maybe I missed the comment or maybe the Mods deleted it before I read it. I certainly don't think it was made into a big deal.
Also, I don't recall anyone ever complaining about the non-English post. Maybe I missed the comment or maybe the Mods deleted it before I read it. I certainly don't think it was made into a big deal.
10-24-07 | 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by pro-bassoonist
I have decided to take this opportunity and kindly state my opinion on a number of issues that have been brought up lately. Hopefully this is the last time I do so publicly:
1. Reviewer’s bias- It has been repeatedly stated on this sub-forum that my bias has eroded TALK’s reputation. As I have not written a single HD review I must conclude that you are not only unfamiliar with my writings but the denotation of the term bias as well.
2. Anonymity- I find it very strange that you chose to address my “writings” as biased yet you are apparently unaware of my identity. Furthermore, to imply that there is a secret conspiracy where DVDTALK reviewers post their reviews veiled in secrecy is an absurd argument to say the least. Especially when the site’s Hi-Def Editor is posting in this very forum, in this very thread. I would assume that contacting him or taking a quick look at the review panel would have addressed plenty of your concerns.
3. Posting/reading non-English articles- This truly is the most absurd of issues that I have seen thrown my way. It is not only sad that we are debating it, it is wrong. Allow me to remind you and anyone else for that matter that one of the reasons why TALK has grown into such a powerful community is because the site has always been inclusive of members with different cultural and social backgrounds, not an exclusive entity where only English-speakers are allowed to participate and exchange opinions. I feel very sorry for anyone who is openly willing to act from a position of superiority and dismiss anything that may be written or spoken in a language other than English.
4. SONY affiliation – In normal circumstances I would not even bother addressing this one but given the constant insinuations that have been directed at me I am going to officially state that I am in no way affiliated with the company nor have I ever worked for them. More than ten years ago I was associated with a European distributor whose partial responsibility was to promote SONY products but I have never been officially employed by the distrib. I hope this clears all second thoughts a particular user on this forum has.
5. Sharing insider information- Every single bit of info I have posted on TALK which has been provided by an insider has been accordingly credited as such. Yet, since you are having second thoughts on the issue I left an open invitation asking for your cooperation in addressing your uncertainty. As such has been denied citing unwillingness to go back and dive through threads I must dismiss your criticism at once.
I hope this addresses once and for all any current or future issues you or others might have with my posting habits on this site.
Sincerely Yours,
Pro-B
1. Reviewer’s bias- It has been repeatedly stated on this sub-forum that my bias has eroded TALK’s reputation. As I have not written a single HD review I must conclude that you are not only unfamiliar with my writings but the denotation of the term bias as well.
2. Anonymity- I find it very strange that you chose to address my “writings” as biased yet you are apparently unaware of my identity. Furthermore, to imply that there is a secret conspiracy where DVDTALK reviewers post their reviews veiled in secrecy is an absurd argument to say the least. Especially when the site’s Hi-Def Editor is posting in this very forum, in this very thread. I would assume that contacting him or taking a quick look at the review panel would have addressed plenty of your concerns.
3. Posting/reading non-English articles- This truly is the most absurd of issues that I have seen thrown my way. It is not only sad that we are debating it, it is wrong. Allow me to remind you and anyone else for that matter that one of the reasons why TALK has grown into such a powerful community is because the site has always been inclusive of members with different cultural and social backgrounds, not an exclusive entity where only English-speakers are allowed to participate and exchange opinions. I feel very sorry for anyone who is openly willing to act from a position of superiority and dismiss anything that may be written or spoken in a language other than English.
4. SONY affiliation – In normal circumstances I would not even bother addressing this one but given the constant insinuations that have been directed at me I am going to officially state that I am in no way affiliated with the company nor have I ever worked for them. More than ten years ago I was associated with a European distributor whose partial responsibility was to promote SONY products but I have never been officially employed by the distrib. I hope this clears all second thoughts a particular user on this forum has.
5. Sharing insider information- Every single bit of info I have posted on TALK which has been provided by an insider has been accordingly credited as such. Yet, since you are having second thoughts on the issue I left an open invitation asking for your cooperation in addressing your uncertainty. As such has been denied citing unwillingness to go back and dive through threads I must dismiss your criticism at once.
I hope this addresses once and for all any current or future issues you or others might have with my posting habits on this site.
Sincerely Yours,
Pro-B
I think your response gives all of your detractors confirmation of long-suspected tactics and motivations to your postings here. And really, that's a shame, because I for one was willing to give you the benefit of the doubt.
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10-24-07 | 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by tonymontana313
It's funny that you would call other people out when if you take a look at the history of your posts, you are one of the ones that bash all of the BR articles posted. Another question, why are you in a Blu-ray thread when you don't even own a blu-ray player?
10-24-07 | 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by DVD Josh
This response was even more smarmy and deflective as I imagined it would be. It's good to see you are completely incapable of having a courteous exchange with a fellow member without resorting to the same posting style as you do with your BD news and HD-DVD responses.
I think your response gives all of your detractors confirmation of long-suspected tactics and motivations to your postings here. And really, that's a shame, because I for one was willing to give you the benefit of the doubt.
I think your response gives all of your detractors confirmation of long-suspected tactics and motivations to your postings here. And really, that's a shame, because I for one was willing to give you the benefit of the doubt.
10-24-07 | 10:16 AM
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this thread would get a lot better if those who find pro-bassoonist so obnoxious would just use the Ignore feature, rather than repeatedly attacking his character.
10-24-07 | 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Qui Gon Jim
They had a pretty good selection of titles. All BD. Their prices weren't terrible either, IIRC.
Media price is an area where BD is looking better and better to me. It seems like they are always on sale somewhere.
Media price is an area where BD is looking better and better to me. It seems like they are always on sale somewhere.
Definitely a good deal for those who won't have them yet.
I think there's one coming next month with Troy: DC, Alexander FC, Wyatt Earp and one other I can't think of at the moment. Definitely a good deal @ ~$60.
10-24-07 | 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by DVD Josh
This response was even more smarmy and deflective as I imagined it would be. It's good to see you are completely incapable of having a courteous exchange with a fellow member without resorting to the same posting style as you do with your BD news and HD-DVD responses.
I think your response gives all of your detractors confirmation of long-suspected tactics and motivations to your postings here. And really, that's a shame, because I for one was willing to give you the benefit of the doubt.
I think your response gives all of your detractors confirmation of long-suspected tactics and motivations to your postings here. And really, that's a shame, because I for one was willing to give you the benefit of the doubt.
10-24-07 | 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by kefrank
this thread would get a lot better if those who find pro-bassoonist so obnoxious would just use the Ignore feature, rather than repeatedly attacking his character.
10-24-07 | 10:24 AM
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Another question, why are you in a Blu-ray thread when you don't even own a blu-ray player?
10-24-07 | 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by kefrank
this thread would get a lot better if those who find pro-bassoonist so obnoxious would just use the Ignore feature, rather than repeatedly attacking his character.
Originally Posted by Goldblum
I appreciate your info, pro-b. 
Don't let the naysayers get you down.
Don't let the naysayers get you down.
10-24-07 | 10:25 AM
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Where's the Blu-ray news? 
10-24-07 | 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by QuePaso
pro-b wants to post pro-blu-ray posts in the BLU RAY thread, and is getting attacked for it. I dont see anyone attacking GizmoDVD, Chanster and the rest of the crew in the HD DVD thread. Why is it ALWAYS the Blu-Ray supporters being attacked non-stop at DVDTalk?
10-24-07 | 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by chanster
Oh thats a qualification for posting in this thread?? Thats funny I don't see that anywhere. You can't be interested in the format if you don't own a player?
10-24-07 | 10:29 AM
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I don't think he said it was a qualification. He was just asking a legitimate question seeking a legitimate answer.
If you don't own a player, according to Tony, you can't post in the thread or you will be questioned as to your reason for posting in the thread.
10-24-07 | 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by tonymontana313
Shhh...they would rather do things the hard way rather than the easy way. My problem is with people that don't own BR and come in to this thread to bash. There is nothing wrong with a healthy discussion but this thread within the last couple of months has gone to hell with certain people just waiting for the next article or poster to bash.
As others have stated, its not reall the articles we are bashing, its the way they are being posted. Was it really needed to post this:
http://forum.dvdtalk.com/showpost.ph...4&postcount=85
" NOTE: The Blu-ray is on only one disc where the HD is spread over 2 - this is a huge separation point - drawing some concrete lines in the format war. "
10-24-07 | 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by GizmoDVD
I think you are mistaken on that. It seems most of the people that support HD DVD also own a Blu-ray player, hence why you will see us in this thread. However, on the flip side, those who own a Blu-ray player don't seem to own an HD DVD player. That is why you will see more discussion in this thread vs. the HD DVD one.