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Old 06-19-07 | 02:13 AM
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well,either way i have no control or can see what Universal does with it's future. (just sorta backing the HD DVD only adopter thus far even if i'm format neutral).
Old 06-19-07 | 03:29 AM
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yeah,i just hope none of the universal title ever gets ported over to blu-ray.
Be a High Def fanatic, not a company/coporation fanatic.

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Old 06-19-07 | 04:07 AM
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Originally Posted by QuePaso
Be a High Def fanatic, not a company/coporation fanatic.
Trust me,i love Sony and Universal equally. Just felt it wouldn't be fair to HD DVD adopters if Universal ever goes to the blu-ray camp. I wouldn't have gotten a HD DVD player for one.
Old 06-19-07 | 08:47 AM
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or Sony gave they $$$ incentives to do so.
I think this is the answer right there. There is no reason for BB to go HD disc exclusive at this point, especially since their online arm is still going to offer both. I think Sony gave BB either money or dirt cheap pricing on Blu-ray discs in exchange for exclusivity.

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Old 06-19-07 | 08:51 AM
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I heard on the Wall Street Journal This Morning radio broadcast that Microsoft is none too happy with the announcement and that they're rattling their sabres, possibly threatening legal action along the lines of BB allegedly limiting competition or some such. Of course, I may have heard it incorrectly.

The podcast of today's show and the show notes haven't been updated yet on the WSJTM website, but when they are, it'll be here: http://www.wsjradio.com/AMrundown.html
Old 06-19-07 | 09:25 AM
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With all the news coverage this is getting, it's just PR.
Old 06-19-07 | 09:47 AM
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I think this is the answer right there. There is no reason for BB to go HD disc exclusive at this point, especially since their online arm is still going to offer both. I think Sony gave BB either money or dirt cheap pricing on Blu-ray discs in exchange for exclusivity.
I still wouldn't down play shelf space in the B&M stores. There's not much reason to stock two HD formats that are both probably renting very slowly.

But I'm sure there's a financial incentive involved with WHICH of the two the decided not to stock.
Old 06-19-07 | 09:54 AM
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In 1977 they were not called laserdiscs...they were called video disc and this was RCA's technology. Pioneer (I believe) introduced laserdisc in 1980 with Dragoin's Lair that I use to play down at the local DQ.
It may have gone by a couple of different names at first (it started as "Video Disc" then "DiscoVision" before finally being rebranded as "Laserdisc"), but the technology and format were the same. You can play any 1977 disc in a last-gen LD player, assuming the disc hasn't rotted, which MCA's early discs were prone to do.

Here's an article on the introduction of the format.

http://www.mindspring.com/~laserguru/popsci.htm



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Old 06-19-07 | 10:31 AM
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It may have gone by a couple of different names at first (it started as "Video Disc" then "DiscoVision" before finally being rebranded as "Laserdisc"), but the technology and format were the same. You can play any 1977 disc in a last-gen LD player, assuming the disc hasn't rotted, which RCA's early discs were prone to do.
Perhaps he was thinking of the RCA CED disks. These are a stylus, not laser, based disk.

http://www.cedcentral.com/whatced.html

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Old 06-19-07 | 11:20 AM
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That girl is pretty freakin' creepy, isn't she?
Not as creepy as that guy, he looks pretty demented to me!
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Originally Posted by kenbuzz
I heard on the Wall Street Journal This Morning radio broadcast that Microsoft is none too happy with the announcement and that they're rattling their sabres, possibly threatening legal action along the lines of BB allegedly limiting competition or some such. Of course, I may have heard it incorrectly.

The podcast of today's show and the show notes haven't been updated yet on the WSJTM website, but when they are, it'll be here: http://www.wsjradio.com/AMrundown.html
Is it possible to access this without a subscription?

BTW, if what you say about Microsoft threating legal action on the grounds of Blockbuster limiting competition is true, that's rather ironic.

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Old 06-19-07 | 01:32 PM
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BTW, if what you say about Microsoft threating legal action on the grounds of Blockbuster limiting competition is true, that's rather ironic.
Yes it is Then they should also sue Sony, Fox, Disney, LionsGate and their buddy Universal as well.
Old 06-19-07 | 01:35 PM
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I still wouldn't down play shelf space in the B&M stores. There's not much reason to stock two HD formats that are both probably renting very slowly.
I don't really buy the shelf space argument myself. We've all seen how Blockbuster shelves their movies. I see nothing preventing them from having a simple "Hi Def" area, and any movies available in both formats are stacked two deep with both versions available. Blockbuster prints up some branded sticker proclaiming "Available in both formats!" and slaps it on the front of the displayed case, be it HD or BD, and problem solved.

Some might say the problem with this is consumer confusion, but I think it's not doing things like this that's keeping people confused.
Old 06-19-07 | 02:24 PM
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If they're in the same place like that there would be a lot of problems with Joe Six Packs with Bluray player renting HD discs (or vice versa) and coming back bitching that it wouldn't play on their machine for some reason.
Old 06-19-07 | 02:42 PM
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Again though, people don't seem to have problems choosing appropriately between several different video game formats. They can apparently even pick out the right games between succeeding systems (they don't come back complaining the PS3 games they rented won't play in their PS2 consoles). Wal-Mart even has a dump bin for games, so it's not as if they have to be in special sections to avoid confusion.
Old 06-19-07 | 03:03 PM
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Again though, people don't seem to have problems choosing appropriately between several different video game formats. They can apparently even pick out the right games between succeeding systems (they don't come back complaining the PS3 games they rented won't play in their PS2 consoles). Wal-Mart even has a dump bin for games, so it's not as if they have to be in special sections to avoid confusion.
True, but people have had years of practice of that, and the games tend to be in different sections.

If they put BR and HD-DVD is different sections, clearly labeled, it wouldn't be an issue. The Third Jake was suggesting just putting them all together behind one case for each movie with an available in each format sticker.

That might be a bit much to people that are used to just grabbing any DVD copy off the shelf and heading to the register.

Again, I think it's a moot point anyway and I'm amazed they carry either format as I'd assume most people who buy HD players also have the good sense to not set foot in the shithole franchise.
Old 06-19-07 | 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Lord Rick
Perhaps he was thinking of the RCA CED disks. These are a stylus, not laser, based disk.
I think you're right. RCA developed and marketed "SelectaVision" aka CED. It was Phillips and MCA who developed "DiscoVision", which became Laserdisc. Two different products. DiscoVision/Laserdisc was obviously the better product, came out first, and lasted a decade and a half longer.

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Old 06-19-07 | 03:15 PM
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Man... I swear, until the day the LD store I worked at closed (2000), it seemed once a month we would have to explain the difference betweeen CED and LD.

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Old 06-19-07 | 03:47 PM
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I really don't think it's much to expect of people. Hell, give it an easily identifiable case and train your employees to confirm at the time of rental.

I know, I know, I'm dreaming.
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Dreaming, and forgetting that most people who rent and work at blockbuster are useless.
Old 06-19-07 | 04:55 PM
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Blockbuster's Blu-ray Endorsement Having Major Impact on HD DVD Player Sales

Blockbuster's decision to support Blu-ray in all of its 1,450 stores is having a bigger impact than it seems. A tipster at an unnamed retailer tells us they've had more HD DVD player orders canceled over the last few days than they've seen over the entire life cycle. The kicker? All of them were canceled because of the Blockbuster announcement.

Not only that, new sales of HD DVD players are nonexistent, with Blu-ray being the only things moving now.

The more tech savvy of us rent our stuff on Netflix or Blockbuster Online (which is still supporting both formats for now), but this announcement—covered in many mainstream media sources—had a big impact on people who actually rent at Blockbuster.
Old 06-19-07 | 05:10 PM
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This is literally the definition of FUD. I saw the "tip" post at AVS and it's some dope whose friend works at Best Buy.

The vast majority of the buying public doesn't even know about the announcement.
Old 06-19-07 | 05:21 PM
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I just like how people take it personally, like HD-DVD is their Momma and Blu-Ray called her a Whore.
Old 06-19-07 | 06:55 PM
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That is so clearly nonsense I wonder if it's even posted in good faith (at the original site). The idea that there could be a measurable impact, even at the retail level, to this announcement however many hours later (hint: it's not even a hundred) is absurd on its face.
Old 06-19-07 | 07:11 PM
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A tipster hmmmm lol. Who could this infamous tipster be ???


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