No kidding. I don't care about the extra features, either.

I used to get wrapped up into what discs had them and what discs didn't back in the early days of dvd, but with as many I buy I just don't have the time to sit down and go through them.

They are nice additions, certainly, but they just don't factor in for me any more.

The fanatics at AVS see nothing wrong with this regarding their BD releases. If a title doesn't have extras, ALL OF THEM say "I don't care about extras". If a BD was released in a brown paper bag and not the blue case, they would then say "I don't care about packaging." Then, if a BD was released with only half of the movie on the disc, they would then say "oh, I don't care about seeing the entire movie." Whatever a BD title leaves out is what they conveniently don't care about. A very disturbing coincidence.

"clubing?"

I really wish AVS would stop getting mentioned on this forum. If I cared about what people on AVS thought, I'd be on AVS. It's like this isn't the HD forum anymore, it's the AVS-discussion forum.

Also, I'm not sure what type of response you wanted by blanketing Blu-ray owners on this forum with the thoughts of BR owners on a different forum.

It's just a different perspective.

Exactly... Ill be the first to admit I dont care too much for extras and PQ/AQ is all I really care about, but the price should also reflect that.

Not all BD owners on this forum act like AVS-ers. Just some of them.

typos? is that what it's come to for you now...

Maybe it's me, but I didn't know what "clubing" was supposed to be either.

have you never been clubbing?!?

Strike a nerve there? The thoughts are almost similar. If BD gets criticized, BD-only owners get really defensive, as displayed by your post.

Do any BD owners get upset that Fox charges $40 list price for all of their titles and leaves off almost all the extras? It's the same tired response of "oh, I don't care about extras". But with 50 gig of space, shouldn't they be using that to it's fullest potential? Why waste the space?

So what you're saying is, since you don't care about the extras, they shouldn't be included? I bet some people out there would like them and completely replace their dvd with the fully loaded, 50gig BD version.

Same here. What were you talking about?

why would someone complain about an entire format when it's a studio by studio decision on what to release. fox made almost exactly the same moves early doors on the DVD format. plus ce change...

as far as defensive goes, it's worth noting just who is posting in what thread, owner/supporter of HD DVD.

What have you got against baby seals, and what does that have to do with this discussion?

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Yes, it's a studio by studio decision, but -- aside from the dual-format supporters, they've all been remiss. Therefore, it's totally fair to criticize the format as a whole based on what we have all seen so far.

No one in their right mind would argue that Blu-Ray doesn't have potential; the problem is that the studios -- and they have ALL been guilty of this at one time or another -- are not recognizing that potential.

Seriously, what was "clubing" supposed to be? I think it has something to do with quality, but I can't figure out which word it would be.

Perhaps I'm just not cool enough. Or... maybe I just didn't put together the oh-so-obvious link between porting DVD extras/MSRPs and clubbing .

???

Except that I'm not a BD-only owner (I have players for both) and own at least twice as many HD-DVD discs as I do Bludiscs.

You didn't even respond directly to the opinions of people on this forum, you instead tried to make some blanket generalization based on the not respected opinions of people on a forum nearly universally despised here.

I'm sure there are BD owners that don't like the barebones releases; I personally don't care. I don't have time to watch the extras the way it is, and I'm certainly not paying MSRP for discs on any format, so that price point is meaningless to me anyway. I'm not sure why this is so impossible to comphrehend.

For either format to take off, should the discs have lots of extras? Absolutely. People like digi are proof. He's said many times he'd probably jump on BD if the discs were loaded, and goes out of his way in many threads to say what discs he would have bought if they weren't barebones.

It's just not important to me personally, and it's not because of some fanboy allegiance to Bluray.

nah, it's simply a question of time in the day. either you spend it watching movie making 101 for the 100th time, or you go out and do something more fun. in my case clubbing. it's a term all my american mates seem to know - not sure why it should perplex so many on here...

Okay, well, some people would like to spend some of their watching time watching extras related to movies they like instead of more movies they don't like.

Clubbing probably won't be as fun when you're old enough not to have to sneak in anymore.

pathetic...