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01-12-07 | 07:55 AM
#351
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Originally Posted by digitalfreaknyc
For those interested, a refurb Sammy for $500.
http://www.secondact.biz/product/BDP...FShCYwodQQEe9w
use code 2ndbluray and it drops the price to $499.99
http://www.secondact.biz/product/BDP...FShCYwodQQEe9w
use code 2ndbluray and it drops the price to $499.99
01-12-07 | 09:39 AM
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Actually, I got an email from some place that has them for $300. I don't know if it's sketchy or not.
http://www.mykidscloset.com/mkc/22983.html
http://www.mykidscloset.com/mkc/22983.html
01-12-07 | 09:45 AM
#353
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Originally Posted by digitalfreaknyc
Actually, I got an email from some place that has them for $300. I don't know if it's sketchy or not.
http://www.mykidscloset.com/mkc/22983.html
http://www.mykidscloset.com/mkc/22983.html
01-12-07 | 10:03 AM
#354
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Originally Posted by digitalfreaknyc
Actually, I got an email from some place that has them for $300. I don't know if it's sketchy or not.
http://www.mykidscloset.com/mkc/22983.html
http://www.mykidscloset.com/mkc/22983.html
01-12-07 | 10:54 AM
#355
Sony has released their first FW update for the BDP-S1 standalone player that fixes the BD-J issue with The Descent among other things:
SONY BDP-S1 1.50 firmware and instructions
From the site:
This utility updates the BDP-S1 firmware to version 1.50 and provides the following benefits:
Improves BD-Java compatibility to enhance interactivity with some BD-ROMs
Enhances playback compatibility with certain BD-ROM format discs
Corrects the output signal status information for audio output and display when Linear PCM 5.1 channel soundtracks are played back via HDMI
SONY BDP-S1 1.50 firmware and instructions
From the site:
This utility updates the BDP-S1 firmware to version 1.50 and provides the following benefits:
Improves BD-Java compatibility to enhance interactivity with some BD-ROMs
Enhances playback compatibility with certain BD-ROM format discs
Corrects the output signal status information for audio output and display when Linear PCM 5.1 channel soundtracks are played back via HDMI
01-12-07 | 11:42 AM
#356
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Originally Posted by Drexl
It remains to be seen how they would handle this, but I would be very surprised if they just let you copy the movie over without authorization and payment (even if it's relatively cheap, like $5).
01-12-07 | 12:15 PM
#357
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Originally Posted by Jay G.
I can see the copying requiring use of an authorized device, but I don't see them charging extra for its use. This is a new feature that's supposed to add value to the BD format, since a user could view the title they bought at home in HD or take a lower-quality version with them on their portable device. I see it as similar to those DVD titles that came with a free UMD of the movie as well. I don't think they're going to undermine the added value by trying to charge you for the lower quality version of the movie on the disc you already bought.
Don't get me wrong; this would be nice if they're willing to do it, but I just wonder if they would offer something that could be abused like this.
01-12-07 | 12:55 PM
#358
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Originally Posted by matome
Sony has released their first FW update for the BDP-S1 standalone player that fixes the BD-J issue with The Descent among other things:
SONY BDP-S1 1.50 firmware and instructions
From the site:
This utility updates the BDP-S1 firmware to version 1.50 and provides the following benefits:
Improves BD-Java compatibility to enhance interactivity with some BD-ROMs
Enhances playback compatibility with certain BD-ROM format discs
Corrects the output signal status information for audio output and display when Linear PCM 5.1 channel soundtracks are played back via HDMI
SONY BDP-S1 1.50 firmware and instructions
From the site:
This utility updates the BDP-S1 firmware to version 1.50 and provides the following benefits:
Improves BD-Java compatibility to enhance interactivity with some BD-ROMs
Enhances playback compatibility with certain BD-ROM format discs
Corrects the output signal status information for audio output and display when Linear PCM 5.1 channel soundtracks are played back via HDMI
01-13-07 | 01:51 AM
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01-13-07 | 06:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Drexl
I was thinking along the lines of stopping multiple copies coming from one disc. Unless there's a way for the drive to mark the disc, or every disc has a unique mark (I really don't know), there would be no way to enforce it for one device or one person's set of devices. A disc (say, from Netflix) could have its portable version copied many times. Even the UMD thing is different because you can't copy a UMD, so it's at least limited to two copies.
Don't get me wrong; this would be nice if they're willing to do it, but I just wonder if they would offer something that could be abused like this.
Don't get me wrong; this would be nice if they're willing to do it, but I just wonder if they would offer something that could be abused like this.
I'd LOVE to hear how Fox feels about this plan, being they are staunchly behind BD for (reportedly) the "superior" copy protection.
01-13-07 | 07:20 AM
#362
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Originally Posted by digitalfreaknyc
01-13-07 | 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Vipper II
And, with that, I've officially gone neutral. Thanks, DF!
If i didn't just buy a DVD recorder, laserdisc player and (soon to be) a receiver, I would've bit.
01-14-07 | 10:51 AM
#365
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Originally Posted by digitalfreaknyc
. Probably would have if I didnt just get the new reciever.
01-14-07 | 11:31 AM
#366
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Originally Posted by digitalfreaknyc
What's up with the Phillips player? I haven't seen anyone talk about that one.
01-15-07 | 10:04 AM
#367
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Can't recall seeing this mentioned before, but Sound and Vision magazine said this in its review of the PS3:
http://www.soundandvisionmag.com/hd-...station-3.html
In a nod to open standards — yes, I'm still talking about Sony — you can install other operating systems on the PS3. Rumor had it that PS3s were supposed to ship with Linux already installed, but this didn't happen.
If you're so inclined, however, you can add Linux — for now. I say this because, within days of PS3's launch, reports started appearing on the Web of people using Linux to hack PS3s and actually rip not only copies of Blu-ray movies to the PS3 hard drive but games as well. Once data has made it off a disc and onto a drive, it isn't a stretch to imagine it being burned or disseminated, something I'll bet Sony is loath to think about. I'm sure this is a hole that Sony is looking to plug — permanently — ASAP.
If you're so inclined, however, you can add Linux — for now. I say this because, within days of PS3's launch, reports started appearing on the Web of people using Linux to hack PS3s and actually rip not only copies of Blu-ray movies to the PS3 hard drive but games as well. Once data has made it off a disc and onto a drive, it isn't a stretch to imagine it being burned or disseminated, something I'll bet Sony is loath to think about. I'm sure this is a hole that Sony is looking to plug — permanently — ASAP.
01-15-07 | 10:31 AM
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But those copies were never playable, just file dumps. Same could be done if you had a BD drive. On the other hand downloadable and playable rips of 30+ HD-DVD movies are available right now on torrent sites.
01-15-07 | 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by matome
But those copies were never playable, just file dumps. Same could be done if you had a BD drive. On the other hand downloadable and playable rips of 30+ HD-DVD movies are available right now on torrent sites.
It's only a matter of time.
01-15-07 | 11:03 AM
#370
Probably true, but if it does happen, BD can then implement the other two layers of copy-protection it has available.
Regardless, I think the whole thing is pretty moot anyway, since I just don't see people downloading and/or storing 20-50gb files as the norm for quite a while (especially people like me with 768kbps connections).
Regardless, I think the whole thing is pretty moot anyway, since I just don't see people downloading and/or storing 20-50gb files as the norm for quite a while (especially people like me with 768kbps connections).
01-15-07 | 11:52 AM
#371
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^ Agreed. Even with torrent, 20-50 GB files will take a lot of bandwidth, download time, and storage space. Makes me appreciate just how much data these high def discs really hold!
I couldn't download movies even if I wanted to because I am on a phone modem that is 24 Kbps on a good day. At least it's cheap ($99 a year).
I couldn't download movies even if I wanted to because I am on a phone modem that is 24 Kbps on a good day. At least it's cheap ($99 a year).
01-15-07 | 04:13 PM
#372
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Originally Posted by matome
But those copies were never playable, just file dumps. Same could be done if you had a BD drive. On the other hand downloadable and playable rips of 30+ HD-DVD movies are available right now on torrent sites.
01-15-07 | 04:21 PM
#373
Yes, and even then it would only benefit the small number of people who actually have powerful enough HTPC's with HDCP-compatible video cards. Currently, real-world implications of this are pretty negligible, though whether it affects studio decisions remains to be seen.
01-15-07 | 04:41 PM
#374
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Originally Posted by matome
Yes, and even then it would only benefit the small number of people who actually have powerful enough HTPC's with HDCP-compatible video cards. Currently, real-world implications of this are pretty negligible, though whether it affects studio decisions remains to be seen.
