Casino Royale is now #90 at Amazon on the first day, The Departed is #91. First time either format has 2 titles simultaneously in the top 100.

Wasn't Batman and MI3 on there at the same time? I remember at one point, for a few days, the HD-dvd MI boxset outranked the dvd boxset.

Interesting Lion's Gate stuff:

Lionsgate and Twisted Pictures' SAW III 'Three-Peats' at Number One on DVD Charts While Also Claiming Most Successful Week One Blu-Ray Debut to Date

The Lionsgate releases have pretty much been driving Blu-ray over the last month IMO:

A. As the "smaller-tier" studio they have limited catalog and have been releasing the bulk of their best stuff.
B. Their new releases fit the PS3 demographic like a glove. (Well, according to Fox's info on what type of demographic buys the PS3)

Yeah, I can't wait for Reservoir Dogs and American Psycho on Tuesday!

And do we know anything about the quality of these or how many special features will be dropped from the massive 50gb discs?

AVS guy who got them early says the PQ is great on both. Less features than SD-DVD but I don't care!

Yes of course.

it seems that NONE of the BD die-hards care about extras. On this board or any other.



I always wonder how they would feel if BD were the one with all the extras and HD DVD had none.

Oh, it'd be rubbed in our face. Of course, then we'd probably have BD...

Thread crap. Winkies don't change a post from what it really is.

I often wonder what it would feel like if BD were the one with no movies coming out for it and HD DVD had all but one of the major studios. I guess I'd probably have HD DVD...

I'd genuinly like to know. AP is one of my top 10 of all time. Just curious if LG fucked it up... or if it will join Flight Plan as the only BD movie I'd be interested in that has all the extras on it.

No movies?

From DVD Empire for the standard DVD:

Features:

Commentary from Director/Co-Writer Mary Harron and Actor/Co-Writer Guinevere Turner
American Psycho: From Book to Screen
The '80s: Downtown
Deleted Scenes with Optional Director Commentary
Original Trailers

From a poster at AVS:

DTS-HD audio & 5.1 DD Surround EX
English/Spanish subs
Deleted scenes with optional director commentary
Commentary with director Mary Harron
Commentary with writer Guinevere Turner
The 80's Downtown
More LG trailers


So it looks like it is missing one documentary. Is that enough to not buy one of your top 10 movies in HD? If it is, its your loss.

Typical. You can dish it out, but you can't take it.

hmmmm....

I hear those over and over about how BD doesn't have the extras blah blah blah, but do we keep forgetting how these studios love to double dip. I understand that HD-DVD is able to keep all the previous extras but you know what? I wouldn't doubt for a second that Universal will end up re-releasing these later down the line. This time the extras will be created in HD.

What I would rather have are HD specific extras like what Tokyo Drift and Crank have rather than them porting the extras from the previous releases.

I would like the extras from the previous discs, but I have already a shitload of discs I haven't even watched yet and the DVDs that I do have I've barely watched any of the extras.

I wonder if there have been any studies on the percentage of people who watch extras on discs. I'll only watch extras of movies that I really like, not sure about the rest of you.

Edit: Wanted to add that my main concern is PQ and AQ and extras as a bonus. Tokyo Drift was a cool little feature that I liked but if that had to sacrifice PQ/AQ then I would say drop it.

Personally, I don't even think it's a matter of WATCHING extras. Even if you don't watch them, you know they're there. It's a matter of feeling like you're getting your money's worth. And I also could care less about HD extras.

It's a pretty long documentary though. Nearly 50 minutes. Plus the trailers are missing.

Reservoir Dogs is the one that really bugs me though. They hardly ported over any of the extras from the SD-DVD.

If you don't care about extras, what DO you care about? If you aren't watching them, it shouldn't matter to you.

I'm sure most of us probably have the previous versions and being collector's I would find it hard to get rid of the disc I have just to be a completist. Considering this is DVDtalk I don't think I'm alone.

I want to be able to replace my DVDs with these discs. I won't do that if it means losing content. Even if I never get around to watching all those extras, at least I have the option. When they remove extras, they remove that option. The alternative is to let the clutter in my place get even worse because I'm duplicating discs two or three times.

As for double dipping, of course there will be double dipping. Sometimes a double dip is worth it, sometimes it isn't. The trick is to not buy movies where they're purposely setting you up for the double dip. A movie with no extras when the SD has the extras is a perfect example. Could a studio take a movie with a lot of extras add more later or re-releases them with extras in HD? Of course. But there's no way to know for certain whether or not they'll do that. But it's pretty obvious when they take extras off of discs, they've already got a double dip in the works. That's why it's important to not take that. They're giving you less content and charging you more money and in the end you know they're going to come back and say "Oh, here's the new edition, it's got all the extras in HD including those ones we took off the last time!" If you buy both, you're telling them that's okay. Even if you don't buy the second edition, you're still telling them it's okay to give you less for more. And it's not. You can say extras don't matter, but it's not about extras. It's about us telling the studios that we won't put up with them taking off any kind of feature on a format that's meant to be more advanced than regular DVD, and costs more to boot.

Obviously I care about extras. I care about the whole package. That's why I'm HD DVD only at this point. I'm waiting for BD to do the same.

I don't want just great A/V quality. I don't want great extras at the expense of A/V quality. I want it all...and I would suspect the general public would as well.

No point in taking 2 steps forward and 1 step back. For EITHER of these formats to succeed, you have to build on the monumentally successful formula that is DVD. You don't remove any aspects of that formula and you certainly don't charge more for less. Doing either and expecting to "win" is ludicrous.

I've been "collecting" extras since I was a very little kid. I would record every "making of" special of a movie that came on TV and I'm still a part of various communities (originaltrilogy.com being one of them) that archive and "preserve" these extras.

I don't care about just the movies. I care about everything that went into making them as well. Again, I want it all. And I don't think that's asking for too much if they're going to ask US to re-buy our movie collections.

ditto x 200.

I agree with his point about double dipping. That's why I'm waiting for BD and to some extent HD-DVD to get out these quick releases and then later on down the line when the inevitable double dips come and then purchase those.

The one thing I love about BD is the fact that there are a lot more uncompressed tracks and that is a major reason for me not to buy a lot of HD-DVDs. So far I've only bought 3 discs that don't have a True-HD soundtrack. I love great audio and hate the fact that some HD-DVDs skimped on uncompressed soundtracks like Tokyo Drift and King Kong.

You say that the DVD formula should be built on and I agree with that, but I don't see either format doing it well right now. HD-DVD is a step ahead but in some respects they are a step behind as well.

How so?

They're not "worse" than DVD in any respect that I could think of (other than costing more).