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Originally Posted by Bcolon
It seems to me that the HD launch went the exact same way. Clunky player with lots of glitches, so so impressions with consumers, and not alot of software. BD has not even officially launched so the software issues are moot, in fact in about a month BD will have more to choose from than HD once WB, Fox, BV, and Paramount start releasing and annoucing titles. There will no doubt be a firm ware upgrade to deal with some of the issues that have come up with the Samsung the same way it took care of the Toshiba problems. Convincing mainstream consumers to buy is going to be the hard part for both camps. BD and HD are in about the same place. Each has one distinct advantage: HD cheaper price for the units; BD much greater studio support. Bd will eventually lower their prices, probably sooner rather than later. HD is pretty much SOL unless they can convince more studios to jump on board. You are not going to be successful with only three of the top 6 or 7 studios supporting your format. IF HD gets the studio support and the BD hardware prices remain high BD is going to be SOL.
First, many people already have BD titles and most people who have seen these BD titles have felt VERY underwhelmed. This was not the case with the launch of HD DVD, where most people were amazed at the picture and sound quality. Second, you are living in a dreamworld if you think in a months time you will see titles from WB, Fox, BV, and Paramount. I am guessing it will be at least 2 months before you see any of those studios releasing titles, especially ALL of them. I gave up reading your post after that, someone else can clue you in on the rest. |
I don't know how I would feel about LG supporting HD DVD. I mean, I would be thrilled to get an HD release of Crash, T2, Saw, etc., but so far all of the announced titles for Blu-ray are the non director/extended cuts. Hopefully by the time that happens they come to their senses and release the director cuts instead.
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The director's cut of T2 sucks anyway.
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Originally Posted by flashburn
So many things wrong with your post, I don't know where to begin!
First, many people already have BD titles and most people who have seen these BD titles have felt VERY underwhelmed. This was not the case with the launch of HD DVD, where most people were amazed at the picture and sound quality. Second, you are living in a dreamworld if you think in a months time you will see titles from WB, Fox, BV, and Paramount. I am guessing it will be at least 2 months before you see any of those studios releasing titles, especially ALL of them. I gave up reading your post after that, someone else can clue you in on the rest. If you'll remember the Universal titles were announced only weeks before the showed up on shelves, so to say that WB, Fox, BV, and Paramount titles are months off, is likely completely incorrect. Paramount is a bit of a wild card at the moment since they have released nothing for HD yet either, but I have no doubt some of those studios will have discs out in about a month, and that total will surpass what HD has to offer. |
Originally Posted by Bcolon
You are right, some titles are out there and some impressions have been so-so. The same as the HD launch, but you probably overlooked all of that as anti-HD propaganda.
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Universal reportedly announcing their first 3 HD-DVD titles today (4/5/06)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This will reportedly be made official later today, but the word is that Serenity will join the 3 Warner titles on launch (4/18), and an unrated Doom and Apollo 13 will follow a week later. MSRP is $34.99. That was posted by Adam Tyner on April 5, 13 days before they were released. So, Flashburn, YOU are living in a dream world if you think these studios don't have quite a few titles ready to go at this moment. |
Originally Posted by Giles
I agree, there hasn't been a HD-DVD release from Warner's that would qualify as a must own - 'Blazing Saddles' being the exception.
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Originally Posted by bruceames
Originally Posted by Paul_SD
Toshiba can't supply anymore players at the moment. Supplies of the intel chip they were using are now exhausted and it is no longer in production, so they are trying to find another alternative and will need to re-jigger things a bit for this 1.5 version of the player- which will also have to be QC'd and tested before it ships.
Supplies of the Tosh are going to be very sparse for the next month. |
Originally Posted by Bcolon
Universal reportedly announcing their first 3 HD-DVD titles today (4/5/06)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This will reportedly be made official later today, but the word is that Serenity will join the 3 Warner titles on launch (4/18), and an unrated Doom and Apollo 13 will follow a week later. MSRP is $34.99. That was posted by Adam Tyner on April 5, 13 days before they were released. So, Flashburn, YOU are living in a dream world if you think these studios don't have quite a few titles ready to go at this moment. Also, even though there have only been a few reviews or even small comments of Blu-ray titles so far, they do seem to leave much to be desired, more so than the initial HD DVD releases. In fact, out of the 3 launch titles, and the several that shortly followed, most were highly regarded upon*. * = Solely basing this on picture and audio quality alone. |
Originally Posted by rdodolak
It wouldn't be surprising since the Toshiba was using a Pentium 4m 2.5 GHz chip and Intel discontinued that chip line about 2 years ago. Granted Intel tweaked the chip a bit for Toshiba so it was exactly the same.
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Bcolon...have you SEEN BD for yourself yet? Or have you been reading any of the reviews?
VERY few have been favorable. It's not so much the player as the quality of the discs. HD DVD doesn't really have that problem. Even still, from what I hear, the worst HD DVD disc is better than ANY of the BD discs. Again, still, a HUGE problem. And I agree with flash, the rest of your post is *ahem* fragile, to say the least. |
This quote sums it up perfectly.
About XXX : This is third Blu-ray title I've reviewed so far, and it comes after the mixed results I had encountered previously with the disappointing 'The Fifth Element,' and the better if inconsistent '50 First Dates.' Unfortunately, the disc I hoped would be my first knockout now leaves me batting zero for three. While 'xXx' does look pretty good on Blu-ray, it still suffers from some noticeable image quality problems that, quite frankly, I just didn't expect from a format that has been has highly touted as this one. |
Originally Posted by flashburn
I don't know how I would feel about LG supporting HD DVD. I mean, I would be thrilled to get an HD release of Crash, T2, Saw, etc., but so far all of the announced titles for Blu-ray are the non director/extended cuts. Hopefully by the time that happens they come to their senses and release the director cuts instead.
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It's been confirmed that it is Lion's Gate :) Sweet! bring on the discs for hd dvd!
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Originally Posted by dvdguru
It's been confirmed that it is Lion's Gate :) Sweet! bring on the discs for hd dvd!
Wonder when they'll start releasing. |
We got one!
:) A BD-only studio crossing the line so early has got to make Toshiba happy. |
So, now 100% support for BD is only Sony, Disney, and Fox? And the last 2 hasn't made a peep about their schedule.
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Originally Posted by dvd182
Well, the non-director's cut of a Crash did only win an Oscar...but until someone comes to his senses we'll just have to suffer through with it...:rolleyes:
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Originally Posted by digitalfreaknyc
You want proof? Here you go:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=689750 It would be cool if Lion's Gate would release the rest of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Original Series on HD-DVD. That way they'd be able to release 36 episodes at a time :banana: (in SD). |
This is astoundingly good news. Bring on T2 (Theatrical cut)!!
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This feels alot like dvd vs divx way back when. I've had hd dvd since the launch (just like dvd) and I've got the sammy blu ray sitting here as well still unopened. I'm returning it tomorrow and think hd dvd has a real spark now. If they can keep players shipping to the stores now they could really grab a big marketshare.
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Alright, bring on Crash! I might even pick up T2 in HD DVD.
I read through the stuff about Durabis 2 on AVS and I'm now really pissed at the Blu-ray group. Apparently they are coating the discs, but its not with Durabis 2 as promised (too expensive?) but with something made more to reduce scratches through normal handling and finger prints like current DVDs use. Look, I take good care of my DVDs, but I do have some with scratches especially the kids DVDs. There is no way in hell I would buy Disney movies on Blu-ray and trust one of my kids not to ding it up. With regular DVD a ding is no big deal, but with Blu-ray it will cut right into the data layer. Hell, I'm picking on the kids, but I have dropped and abused a disc or two myself. It happens. This is basically the final straw for me. They rush to market with a $1000 player with less features than the $500 competition that cheats to achieve 1080p playback, they rush out discs that are poorly encoded on single layered media because dual layered doesn't work in a real world factory and now they lie once again about the coating on the discs making these the new disposable disc format. Enough is enough. I keep telling myself Blu-ray will work all these problems out in a year, but I simply can't even think about rewarding them with my business after all the crap they are pulling at launch. I'm backing HD DVD for better or worse. |
Same here. I'm sticking with HD DVD 100%. The only way I'll buy into BD is if they win the format war and so far, they're off to a very rocky start. I'm not sure a video game console is enough to save the day.
I mean, think about that. A "movie" studio is banking on a "video game console" to help them win a format war that has to do with movies. Strange. It would not surprise me that Disney caved and began releasing HD DVD product later this year. If Fox doesn't announce their BD plans after the Sony player comes out, then I'm thinking they may think about crossing over as well. Assuming the Lions Gate deal is 100%, who would have predicted a BD studio would cross over and support HD DVD before BD is officially launched? |
Originally Posted by digitalfreaknyc
Bcolon...have you SEEN BD for yourself yet? Or have you been reading any of the reviews?
VERY few have been favorable. It's not so much the player as the quality of the discs. HD DVD doesn't really have that problem. Even still, from what I hear, the worst HD DVD disc is better than ANY of the BD discs. Again, still, a HUGE problem. And I agree with flash, the rest of your post is *ahem* fragile, to say the least. As for the fragility of my post, I, obviously, completely disagree. I would ask you to do some introspection of your own posts to see an incredible amount of fragility and bias. You swing every announcement or development as BD's death kneel. As I said before, this battle will be won by studio support and hardware pricing. Right now each side has one clear advantage. Pricing is something Sony can fix, even if they have to take a $200.00 or $300.00 hit on each unit. In the long run it will be worth it for them in order to win the battle. Hd will not win unless they get the studio support. Period. When consumers start looking for Disney animation, the Aliens films, James Bond, Ghostbusters, X-Men, and Spiderman and find out they are only available on Blu Ray, the choice is going to be simple. I will be the first to admit if HD offered a player capable of 1080P, lossless audio, and had full studio support for $500.00, I'd be first in line to get one. I just don't see that happening anytime soon. |
Some other LionsGate properties that I would gladly welcome into my HD DVD collection are: The Punisher, Cabin Fever, House of 1,000 Corpses, The Devil's Rejects, and The Cooler.
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