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Old 07-06-18 | 06:20 PM
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Re: Why is this sig being allowed in the forum?

Originally Posted by Mabuse
You want a rule to prevent something that isn’t even happening?
No. There's a massive list of people who have been banned from Book Talk.
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Old 07-06-18 | 06:23 PM
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Re: Why is this sig being allowed in the forum?

Also, dare I be so bold as to suggest that new accounts should have to wait 30 to 90 days to post in politics at all? We don't currently have a huge problem of new folks coming in to stir shit up, but it wouldn't be too difficult for them to do so
By your own admission it’s something that isn’t happening but you want a rule anyway.

A true pro-regulation Democrat to the very core.
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Old 07-06-18 | 06:27 PM
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Re: Why is this sig being allowed in the forum?

Originally Posted by PerryD
But you are one of the many that just gave a thumbs up to one of the more hateful posts I've seen, the same Trump = Hitler, Trump Supporters = Nazis type comment that get spewed on a regular basis.
You literally post this more than everyone else combined. And in the main Trump thread several of us were discussing the distinction between Nazis and American fascism.

If we’re asking people to retire snowflake and but her emails, can we also ask people to retire the “you’re calling me a Nazi because I support Trump” stuff too?
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Old 07-06-18 | 06:28 PM
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Re: Why is this sig being allowed in the forum?

Oh that?
Well, as I said... We don't have a huge problem of that... yet. But we have absolutely had a handful of those types show up, skirting that line between following the rules and trolling and it took longer than expected for them to catch a ban. All I was saying was that limiting the ability of new folks to post in Politics would deter those types that we've already seen in limited quantities. but to say "it isn't even happening" is wrong.

By your own admission it’s something that isn’t happening
That's absolutely NOT what I said.

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okay, 'buse. Where's that Jump To Conclusions mat?

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Old 07-06-18 | 06:43 PM
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Re: Why is this sig being allowed in the forum?

Originally Posted by VinVega
America has become angrier over each new administration it seems. We need to figure out a way to dial back the anger, at least at each other here. The constant lashing out at each other here is leading the forum down a dark path. It was never designed to be like this. I know I'll probably be attacked just for expressing this, but that is my feeling.

And I think part of the problem is we need some more mods. I don't think we're keeping up with the volume and that's part of the problem as well. We are working on that.
I don't mind the open disagreement, but I find the frequent needling that is designed to "trigger" a response in other people to be annoying and unpleasant to read.

As for more mods, I am sure you know best, but is it true that a very small number of people cause the most trouble? If so, banning them seems better than adding mods. We don't appear to have more users, just more troublemakers
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Old 07-06-18 | 06:59 PM
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I don't mind the open disagreement, but I find the frequent needling that is designed to "trigger" a response in other people to be annoying and unpleasant to read.
I agree, but I also don't believe people who respond to the "trigger" with should have free passes to commit personal attacks. It's fine to penalize those doing the needling, as long as the penalties are applied evenly. Anything else, at the risk of oversimplifying, amounts to giving in to the playground level "He made me do it!" defense.
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Old 07-06-18 | 07:08 PM
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Re: Why is this sig being allowed in the forum?

Originally Posted by Supermallet
You literally post this more than everyone else combined. And in the main Trump thread several of us were discussing the distinction between Nazis and American fascism.

If we’re asking people to retire snowflake and but her emails, can we also ask people to retire the “you’re calling me a Nazi because I support Trump” stuff too?
Yes, thank you.
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Old 07-06-18 | 07:13 PM
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Re: Why is this sig being allowed in the forum?

Originally Posted by Supermallet
You literally post this more than everyone else combined. And in the main Trump thread several of us were discussing the distinction between Nazis and American fascism.

If we’re asking people to retire snowflake and but her emails, can we also ask people to retire the “you’re calling me a Nazi because I support Trump” stuff too?
I quoted the post. Yes, when people say Trump and his followers want to exterminate blacks, Latinos and gays, I reply.

When someone posts that the entire agenda of the Trump agenda is the same as Nazis, I reply. I'm not making a strawman here in the least.
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Old 07-06-18 | 07:15 PM
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Yes, thank you.
Can we ban the thumbs up? Adds nothing to the discussion.
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Old 07-06-18 | 07:18 PM
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Old 07-06-18 | 07:21 PM
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Re: Why is this sig being allowed in the forum?

Originally Posted by PerryD
Can we ban the thumbs up? Adds nothing to the discussion.
Then WhySoBlu would have nothing to do.
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Old 07-06-18 | 07:28 PM
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Re: Why is this sig being allowed in the forum?

Jesus, might have to lock this thread.
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Old 07-06-18 | 07:37 PM
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Re: Why is this sig being allowed in the forum?

Originally Posted by TomOpus
Jesus, might have to lock this thread.
If Jesus was a mod he would lock a few more.
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Old 07-06-18 | 07:40 PM
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Re: Why is this sig being allowed in the forum?

Originally Posted by Mabuse
Then WhySoBlu would have nothing to do.
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Old 07-06-18 | 09:34 PM
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Re: Why is this sig being allowed in the forum?

Originally Posted by TomOpus
Jesus, might have to lock this thread.

I'm going to make that into a country song...

Jesus lock this thread. I can't take it any more.
Because ten years ago this place was so much fun.
Now it's all bitching about bathrooms and guns...
Flags and abortion and football players on their knees...
And Trump being Hitler when he's really Mussolineeeeeeeee....

Jesus lock this thread. I can't it any more.
I just want my boron cowpunch back.
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Old 07-06-18 | 09:42 PM
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Re: Why is this sig being allowed in the forum?

Originally Posted by PerryD
I quoted the post. Yes, when people say Trump and his followers want to exterminate blacks, Latinos and gays, I reply.

When someone posts that the entire agenda of the Trump agenda is the same as Nazis, I reply. I'm not making a strawman here in the least.
Trump is a fascist. Those who are actively defend him are actively defending a fascist. At a certain point the distinction between defending a fascist and being a fascist becomes academic. If that upsets you, maybe you shouldn’t defend Trump.
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Old 07-06-18 | 10:32 PM
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Re: Why is this sig being allowed in the forum?

Originally Posted by TomOpus
Jesus, might have to lock this thread.
IBTL? Or ? Or ? Oh fuck, I just don't know anymore...
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Old 07-06-18 | 10:34 PM
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Re: Why is this sig being allowed in the forum?

Originally Posted by PerryD
I quoted the post. Yes, when people say Trump and his followers want to exterminate blacks, Latinos and gays, I reply.

When someone posts that the entire agenda of the Trump agenda is the same as Nazis, I reply. I'm not making a strawman here in the least.
While I wouldn't say that trump literally wants to exterminate those people (yet), I don't think anyone has actually said so, but he has said and implemented things against those people. So I would like to see your reply that repudiates that actual things trump and his supporters say and do. Fecicious question, because trump and his supporters have actually said and done such things.
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Old 07-07-18 | 07:50 AM
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Re: Why is this sig being allowed in the forum?

Originally Posted by Supermallet
Trump is a fascist. Those who are actively defend him are actively defending a fascist. At a certain point the distinction between defending a fascist and being a fascist becomes academic. If that upsets you, maybe you shouldn’t defend Trump.
Maybe you should read the definitions of words instead of tossing them like firecrackers at people.

Can you refrain from this behavior for one week and have a solid conversation with others who disagree with you?
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Old 07-07-18 | 08:12 AM
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Re: Why is this sig being allowed in the forum?

When did the feedback forum become an offshoot of the politics/religion forum?
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Old 07-07-18 | 08:14 AM
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Re: Why is this sig being allowed in the forum?

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Maybe you should read the definitions of words instead of tossing them like firecrackers at people.
If you’re talking about the word “fascist”, there’s a video posted in Pol that does a rather good job of tackling the definition and laying out that viewpoint.
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Old 07-07-18 | 09:32 AM
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Re: Why is this sig being allowed in the forum?

Originally Posted by hdnmickey
If "Trump supporters" is going to be considered a "generalization", there is probably going to have to be a lot more clarification given for the terms used in the posted rules. I know I certainly don't consider it anything like the posted examples, but I'll try and go along with whatever clarifications are given.
I mentioned this on the Trump thread, and I agree that we should have an explanation/clarification about the term. Just to follow the guidelines and prevent any suspension., by the way.
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Old 07-07-18 | 09:51 AM
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Re: Why is this sig being allowed in the forum?

Originally Posted by gryffinmaster
If you’re talking about the word “fascist”, there’s a video posted in Pol that does a rather good job of tackling the definition and laying out that viewpoint.
That was pretty good. Thanks, Dan.
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Old 07-07-18 | 10:26 AM
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Re: Why is this sig being allowed in the forum?

Originally Posted by DVD Polizei
Maybe you should read the definitions of words instead of tossing them like firecrackers at people.

Can you refrain from this behavior for one week and have a solid conversation with others who disagree with you?
I know exactly what the word fascist means. Do you?
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Old 07-07-18 | 10:27 AM
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Re: Why is this sig being allowed in the forum?

So the President of the United States mocks the disabled, attacks women and minorities, gives disparaging nicknames to anyone who opposes him, lies constantly about the most easily proveable facts and works to divide everyone into us vs them and people are surprised that has carried over into political discussions?

How are we supposed to have calm and mature political conversations when the subject of many of those conversations is an unhinged liar?
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