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Old 08-01-13 | 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Travis McClain
Since shadokitty is away, I thought I'd jump in here with a revised version of the checklist. The one that he posted is missing the links that I'm sure will be important to anyone who doesn't know offhand which movies made the Golden 100 of Russian Animation Movies list and such.
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Watch works from 3 different studios:
--- Warner Bros
--- UPA
--- Paramount
--- Fleischer Studios
--- Disney
--- Famous Studios
--- Screen Gems
--- Studio Ghibli
--- Depatie-Freleng
--- MGM Cartoon Studio

Watch works from 3 different directors:
--- Tex Avery
--- Friz Freleng
--- Chuck Jones
--- Hanna & Barbera
--- Peter Lord
--- Frank Tashlin
--- Bruce W. Timm
--- John Kricfalusi
--- Nick Park
--- Bob Clampett
--- Brothers Quay
--- Hayao Miyazaki
--- Satoshi Kon
--- Don Bluth
--- John and Faith Hubley
--- Gene Deitch

Watch 5 Annie Awards - Winsor McCay Award Winners:
--- Max & Dave Fleischer
--- Tex Avery
--- Fritz Freleng
--- Chuck Jones
--- Walt Disney
--- Bill Hanna & William Barbera
--- Mel Blanc
--- Ub Iwerks
--- Wolfgang Reitherman
--- Sterling Holloway (actor)
--- Ray Harryhausen
--- Ralph Bakshi
--- Don Bluth
--- Genndy Tartakovsky
--- Mike Judge
--- John Lasseter
--- Tim Burton
--- Bruce Timm
--- Matt Groenig

From iCheckMovies
Watch 2 short films from Annecy Festival's 100 Films for a Century of Animation
--- (Movie 1)
--- (Movie 2)

Watch 2 short films from ASIFA's Top 50 Animated Short Films
--- (Movie 1)
--- (Movie 2)

Watch 2 animated films from Golden 100 of Russian Animation
--- (Movie 1)
--- (Movie 2)

Watch 2 films from Filmspotting Top 100 Animated Films
--- (Movie 1)
--- (Movie 2)

Watch 2 Annie Awards Best Animated Feature winners
--- (Movie 1)
--- (Movie 2)

Watch 2 films from Japan Academy Awards' Excellent Animations list
--- (Movie 1)
--- (Movie 2)

Watch 2 films from The Animated Movie Guide: Top 60 Animated Features Never Theatrically Released in the United States (from Jerry Beck's book The Animated Movie Guide)
--- (Movie 1)
--- (Movie 2)

---Watch a Saturn Award for Best Animation Film winner

Watch animation from at least 9 different decades:
--- 1900 -
--- 1910 -
--- 1920 -
--- 1930 -
--- 1940 -
--- 1950 -
--- 1960 -
--- 1970 -
--- 1980 -
--- 1990 -
--- 2000 -
--- 2010 -

Watch animation from at least two languages other than English:
--- First language -
--- Second language -

--- Watch an animated movie that spawned a TV spin-off OR an animated movie that was based on an animated TV show
--- Watch a work of animated non-fiction [i.e., Waltz with Bashir, etc.]
--- Watch an Academy Award Best Animated Feature winner
--- Watch an Academy Award Best Short Subject (Cartoon)/Animated Short winner

Watch animation from at least 4 different ratings:
--- G -
--- PG -
--- PG-13 -
--- R -
--- NC-17 / X -
--- Unrated -

Watch animation from at least 4 of these categories:
--- Watch an anime movie or series -
--- Watch a US kid's show that originally aired on Sat mornings -
--- Puppet show -
--- Mostly or all CGI -
--- Watch 90+ minutes worth of shorts (i.e Tom and Jerry, Bugs Bunny) -
--- Cartoon based on a newspaper comic strip -
--- Motion Comic -

Watch animation from at least 6 different genres:
--- Action -
--- Comedy -
--- Adventure -
--- Fantasy -
--- Science Fiction -
--- Horror -
--- Mystery -
--- Western -
--- Drama -
--- Crime -
--- Romance -
--- War -
Thanks for those links Travis!

I'll probably work on the checklist but the Russian and Japanese categories will stop me from completing it *unless* there's at least 1 from each of those that's available for free streaming. I don't own any of the films in either of those categories.

I've determined I'm not making any unplanned DVD purchases this month as I went way overboard the past few months with both regular and challenge purchases. At least the challenge purchases have all been titles I've wanted to own for a while but I stumbled across several really good sales and over did it a bit.
Old 08-01-13 | 04:05 PM
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From the SF/Fantasy thread as it makes more sense here:

Originally Posted by BobO'Link
...The Nightmare Before Christmas which I've never seen before...
Originally Posted by LJG765
*Jaw drop!* You haven't watched this yet? You are missing out, my friend! I think (and hope) that you should put this to the top of your watch list! This is one of my favorite animated films!
No, never. I picked up a very cheap used copy of the 2 (actually 3) disk Collector's Edition from Hastings a couple of weeks back thinking I'd watch it with the grandkids before the SF/Fantasy challenge was over. When the viewing with them didn't come about I changed the plan to use it last night as a dual challenge title but that didn't happen either. I'll watch it sometime this month and try to get the kids to watch with me.
Old 08-01-13 | 04:38 PM
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I'm sure I'm being slow but the idea of the Annie Awards-Winsor McCay winners checklist category is that we can watch anything by these winners, they didn't necessarily win with a specific show I assume. Am I assuming right?
Old 08-01-13 | 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by BobO'Link
Thanks for those links Travis!

I'll probably work on the checklist but the Russian and Japanese categories will stop me from completing it *unless* there's at least 1 from each of those that's available for free streaming. I don't own any of the films in either of those categories.
I can't help with online viewing of the Japanese categories (though I did enjoy "The Borrowers" and "Ponyo") but for the Russian ones, try "Hedgehog in the Fog." I found it on Youtube. I've also watched "Winnie the Pooh and a Busy Day." It's quite different than the Disney version. Also available on Youtube.

Originally Posted by BobO'Link
From the SF/Fantasy thread as it makes more sense here:
No, never. I picked up a very cheap used copy of the 2 (actually 3) disk Collector's Edition from Hastings a couple of weeks back thinking I'd watch it with the grandkids before the SF/Fantasy challenge was over. When the viewing with them didn't come about I changed the plan to use it last night as a dual challenge title but that didn't happen either. I'll watch it sometime this month and try to get the kids to watch with me.
I hope you enjoy it! I love the music and the animation itself. The story is heartwarming and fun to watch.

Originally Posted by Ash Ketchum
AKIRA's a great animated science fiction film, but just be aware that it may not be all that comprehensible on a first viewing. I think it was the fifth time I watched it that I finally understood exactly what "Akira" was...
Originally Posted by coyoteblue
Nice (if random) choice. Classic dystopian anime. It helped establish a beachhead on these shores for anime back in the Eighties.
I'm about 3/4ths of the way through and it is a bit confusing. I read up on it just before I started so I know the basic storyline, but without that, I probably would be pretty lost. I can see why people enjoy it so much. The animation is very well done. I don't know that I'll watch it many times while I have the disc, but I would watch it again.
Old 08-01-13 | 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by LJG765
I can't help with online viewing of the Japanese categories (though I did enjoy "The Borrowers" and "Ponyo") but for the Russian ones, try "Hedgehog in the Fog." I found it on Youtube. I've also watched "Winnie the Pooh and a Busy Day." It's quite different than the Disney version. Also available on Youtube.
Thanks for those links!
Originally Posted by LJG765
I hope you enjoy it! I love the music and the animation itself. The story is heartwarming and fun to watch.
Looks like the grandkids are "out" on this one. I asked my grandson about it when I got home from work. He said he'd seen it and didn't care for it. Since his sister tends to mimic him because he's older it looks like it'll be a solo viewing.
Old 08-01-13 | 09:12 PM
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I enjoyed Wreck-It Ralph to start the challenge. In fact, I liked it better than I thought I would since I'm not the video game nut that many others are.
Old 08-01-13 | 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted by BobO'Link
Thanks for those links!

Looks like the grandkids are "out" on this one. I asked my grandson about it when I got home from work. He said he'd seen it and didn't care for it. Since his sister tends to mimic him because he's older it looks like it'll be a solo viewing.
No problem! I'm glad that I could reciprocate!

Well, glad you're going ahead on the watching even without the grandkids. I think I like it more as I grow older.
Old 08-01-13 | 11:13 PM
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Shockwave was one of my favorite toys as a child, that and Astrotrain but who doesn't love triple changers. They didn't feature Shockwave that much on the cartoon but he was a complete bad ass whenever he was on screen. I should have read the comics.
Those comics were the first I ever read. Back in 2011, ahead of Transformers: Dark of the Moon, I wrote a blog piece about how much I love Shockwave and why I was so excited to know he would be in the movie.

I've started my journey through Batman: The Animated Series and it's still a solid show. My only complaint is that the episodes are not in chronological order so in one episode Robin appears out of nowhere and in the next episode the police have no idea who Batman is, random I tell you. One disc down, a lot more to go.
I revisited that series last December. I had to finish the last of Volume Four and Batman: Mystery of the Batwoman in January, but since they fit the TV on DVD* Challenge, that was fine. I created a ranked list of the entire series, including the movies and the short film "Chase Me".
Old 08-02-13 | 01:06 AM
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Unfortunately, my wife's mother past away last night so I will be out of action for a number of days now. Enjoy the opening week, all.
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Unfortunately, my wife's mother past away last night so I will be out of action for a number of days now. Enjoy the opening week, all.
My condolences to you and yours.
Old 08-02-13 | 01:14 AM
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Originally Posted by pacaway
Unfortunately, my wife's mother past away last night so I will be out of action for a number of days now. Enjoy the opening week, all.
My sympathies as well.
Old 08-02-13 | 03:29 AM
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Unfortunately, my wife's mother past away last night so I will be out of action for a number of days now. Enjoy the opening week, all.
Sorry to hear that.
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I don't have any problems with this as a check list item, but can anyone suggestion any other non-fiction animation other than "Waltz with Bashir?" I tried watching that one last year and didn't get very far.
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I watched that with a friend, and we sat in silence for probably five minutes after the credits ran. It's one of those "too painful to watch twice" films. Off the top of my head, I can only come up with Persepolis (2007) and Madagascar, a Journey Dairy (2009), a short film. Hmmm... perhaps Wild Life (2011), which is not technically non-fiction but is based on true stories. That's all I can come up with.
The Horrible Histories TV show probably counts, as would - I imagine - any number of children's PBS shows. Particularly the one with the Cat in the Hat, but maybe even things like Sesame Street. Maybe?
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Originally Posted by Ash Ketchum
AKIRA's a great animated science fiction film, but just be aware that it may not be all that comprehensible on a first viewing. I think it was the fifth time I watched it that I finally understood exactly what "Akira" was.
I read it, and could hardly follow it - as I recall, it was in large part because I had considerable difficulty telling the main two characters apart. Haven't looked at it for a decade or more, though, so I don't know how accurate that memory is...
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The next-to-last tape I watched for the Sci-Fi Challenge was one of the very first anime tapes I acquired (back in 1992):

It was part of a batch of preview tapes sent to me by someone at the now-defunct Central Park Media (U.S. Manga Corps).

The first tape I watched for this challenge was the very first legit anime tape I acquired, earlier in 1992, a gift from the head of Central Park Media after I met him at a business meeting:


At that point, the only other anime tapes I had in my collection were bootleg Miyazaki tapes purchased from a dealer at a comics show--LAPUTA: CASTLE IN THE SKY and MY NEIGHBOR TOTORO, neither of which was yet available legally in the U.S. (I've since upgraded to legit DVD editions of these two films, but the VHS copies in the pictures remain the only copies of those titles I have. And the only copies I'm ever likely to have.)

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Originally Posted by pacaway
Unfortunately, my wife's mother past away last night so I will be out of action for a number of days now. Enjoy the opening week, all.
My condolences to your family.
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I've started my journey through Batman: The Animated Series and it's still a solid show. My only complaint is that the episodes are not in chronological order so in one episode Robin appears out of nowhere and in the next episode the police have no idea who Batman is, random I tell you. One disc down, a lot more to go.
Thanks for posting that information about episode order! I'd purchased that series out of order and was waiting to start watching for this years challenge as I finally picked up V1 a few months back. Looks like I'll be researching the proper viewing order before I start the journey.

I'm currently doing a bit of research on this. I'll post what I find if anyone is interested.

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Looks like the live-action remake of AKIRA is back on track:

http://variety.com/2013/film/news/ak...akingnewsalert

Not sure how excited (or apprehensive) I am about this.
Old 08-02-13 | 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by ntnon
The Horrible Histories TV show probably counts, as would - I imagine - any number of children's PBS shows. Particularly the one with the Cat in the Hat, but maybe even things like Sesame Street. Maybe?
Thanks for the other suggestions. I went for Tatsumi as I realized after looking at the cover of Persepolis that I watched that last year. It was a good film, but I'm trying to watch things I've not watched before this year for the most part.

Watched the first of four discs of Star Trek: The Animated Series with Travis last night. I've never watched them before so I was a bit apprehensive to start. These are a lot better than season 3 and I'm enjoying them immensely. Top two: "Yesteryear" and "More Tribbles, More Troubles." I think by keeping the format of TOS but cutting the time they had, made a much tighter, watchable show for the most part. There wasn't enough time for rambling and slow pacing.

The animation is rough in parts, but I like how it gave them more options in aliens and ships. The voices are basically the same handful of people in multiple parts, but for the most part I didn't notice that, except for when Nichelle Nichols played 3 characters in the same scene.

Been working on the shorts part of the checklist. Quite a few are online free, so if you're worried about finding something, don't be. For those who don't use iCheckMovies, go to the comments section of the short that interests you and you will likely find the link to the video already there. Though, there's a chance the link will be broken, but enough work that you can easily get your checks.
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"Yesteryear" is a wonderful episode and I'd put it as one of the top episodes in all of Trek. It's quite a heavy episode for a Saturday morning cartoon (I assume it aired on Saturday mornings) but that's actually a good thing. Anytime Tribbles are in an episode is a win.

Volume 1 of Batman: TAS has some wonderful episodes: "Appointment in Crime Alley," "Beware the Gray Ghost," and "Two-Face." Speaking of Harvey Dent, can some comic book readers answer a question for me: in the comics, how does Harvey Dent become Two-Face? The Animated Series has one scenario and the live action films have their own stories but I never looked into what the original source material said.

Season 2 of The Clone Wars arrived in the library today so I'll alternate between Batman and Star Wars for the next couple says. I really liked the first season when I watched it last month so here's hoping season two is equally as enjoyable.
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"Yesteryear" is a wonderful episode and I'd put it as one of the top episodes in all of Trek. It's quite a heavy episode for a Saturday morning cartoon (I assume it aired on Saturday mornings) but that's actually a good thing.
Yes, it originally aired on Saturday morning. I remember when it started because I was a huge ST fan so I tried watching a couple of episodes. I felt then that it was a "lame wannabe Saturday AM version of Star Trek". The voices didn't sound quite right and I thought the animation was horrible. Part of that was I've never been a fan of the way Filmation does animation. I've always considered the majority of HB's work from the late 60s/early 70s to be sub-par and have always ranked Filmation below that.

I picked up the series a couple of years back because I'm wanted to "complete" my TOS collection *and* it was on sale - cheap. When I finally watched the series I was surprised to discover how good it is. Yes, I still think the animation is not all that good and there are times the animation or a odd voice takes me out a bit but overall it's much better than I remembered and gave it credit for back in '73. That's when I really took a look at the creators involved to find many of the writers were involved with the live action series. I gained a new respect for the show at that point and further found that many ideas from the series made their way into TNG (the holodeck being a significant one but one which I fell TNG relied on too much).
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Is there a point system this year? Like in the first couple years, 4 half hour episodes of a show equaled one movie.
Old 08-02-13 | 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by N8 Storm
Is there a point system this year? Like in the first couple years, 4 half hour episodes of a show equaled one movie.
Nope, it's use your own system. If you want one show=one, you can, if you want to match up to previous years and have 4-30 min shows= a movie, you can. I think the main requirement is to have your list be numbered.
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Since the general consensus seems to be for the easy counting method we will go with that. However, it is not required, so if you wish to count anoter way, feel free, as I will not be doing stats.

I usually have my list ordered with 4 - 30 minutes episodes, but for this one I went ahead and ordered them one at a time.
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On the bus on my iPod so didn't use quotes.

First, thanks Travis for posting those links. 2nd to who asked the question about the Annie awards, no specific category. 3rd to pacaway my condolences. Finally a bit of interesting info. While I didn't see it as I had to start home at the campground where I was staying they have free movies every night and tonight's movie was a screening of Planes a week before it opened in the theaters.


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