31 Films in 31 Days - Horror Challenge Subset
#52
I was first introduced to Suspiria sometime during the mid/late 90's (It being my first Argento film, as well) Unfortunately, I made the mistake of first watching the movie on one of those 15-inch TV/VCR combos and the "Atmospheric Horror" was definetly lost. Needless to say, I didn't turn out to be a fan of the movie.
But all it took was a DVD, a 53-inch Panny, and 5.1 surround sound to make me realize that I had been missing out one of the most memorable experiences the horror genre has ever provided.
But If I still had a nitpick against the movie, it would be the dubbing/phoned-in line delivery. So yesterday, I decided to watch the movie in French with captions (No english subtitles provided on the BU Disc) and the horror felt as strong as ever. At least Helena's voice sounds more threatening in French!
But all it took was a DVD, a 53-inch Panny, and 5.1 surround sound to make me realize that I had been missing out one of the most memorable experiences the horror genre has ever provided.
But If I still had a nitpick against the movie, it would be the dubbing/phoned-in line delivery. So yesterday, I decided to watch the movie in French with captions (No english subtitles provided on the BU Disc) and the horror felt as strong as ever. At least Helena's voice sounds more threatening in French!
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Suspiria
I agree, a visual feast, very weak English dubbing. If my DVD had subtitles, I would have listened to it in Italian.
In fact, it would be fine without any dialogue, just the visuals, sound effects, and great soundtrack.
Late comment, but a great idea on the title thing Darth.
In fact, it would be fine without any dialogue, just the visuals, sound effects, and great soundtrack.
Late comment, but a great idea on the title thing Darth.
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A Nightmare on Elm Street
Anyone else watch A Nightmare on Elm Street yet? It's been awhile since I've seen it in its entirety. I've also been watching some of the sequels including part 3 which I had never seen before. Spoilers for both movies in the comment below:
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I loved the first, liked the second, and the third is one of the worst for me. Mainly because it's where it was turning from a horror movie to Freddy's a popular kind of guy. It was trying to be two things at once.
When the fourth movie came out it had completed the change. It wasn't great but it knew what it was.
When the fourth movie came out it had completed the change. It wasn't great but it knew what it was.
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Suspiria
I first saw Suspiria on cable some time in the late '70s. Never been a huge fan, but I like it well enough to own the DVD.
Is there not a trailer for Suspiria that shows the girl (Pat Hingle? I got a chuckle out of that name) falling through the stained glass ceiling? I remember seeing it on cable back when I first saw the movie, but the trailers on the DVD don't show this scene.
I'd forgotten that Udo Kier was in Suspiria (or maybe I just never recognized him before because his voice was dubbed). He's the second actor from Shadow of the Vampire to "pop up" in another film I've watched in the last couple of days. The other one was Willem Dafoe (who had a bit part in The Hunger).
After Suspiria, I watched Phenomena for the first time (don't know how I'd never seen that one before). While it's certainly no classic, I actually like it more than Suspiria.
I skipped Nightmare on Elm Street since I watched it in one of the previous challenges.
Is there not a trailer for Suspiria that shows the girl (Pat Hingle? I got a chuckle out of that name) falling through the stained glass ceiling? I remember seeing it on cable back when I first saw the movie, but the trailers on the DVD don't show this scene.
I'd forgotten that Udo Kier was in Suspiria (or maybe I just never recognized him before because his voice was dubbed). He's the second actor from Shadow of the Vampire to "pop up" in another film I've watched in the last couple of days. The other one was Willem Dafoe (who had a bit part in The Hunger).
After Suspiria, I watched Phenomena for the first time (don't know how I'd never seen that one before). While it's certainly no classic, I actually like it more than Suspiria.
I skipped Nightmare on Elm Street since I watched it in one of the previous challenges.
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I was watching the mouths in Suspiria and it seemed to me the actors were mostly speaking English. Almost all Italian films are shot post-sync and I've seen this one >30 times so maybe I'm just used to it. I don't see how watching it in another language would help. The DVD looks great upconverted but I am dying for this on Blu-Ray. I saw it on 35mm in a theater 2 years ago (I've seen it 4 times in a theater), and spent the whole movie watching all the textures, like the flocked red wall paper in the school, that you just don't see on DVD. I've always loved this film. Could be my crush on Jessica Harper, though.
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I was watching the mouths in Suspiria and it seemed to me the actors were mostly speaking English. Almost all Italian films are shot post-sync and I've seen this one >30 times so maybe I'm just used to it. I don't see how watching it in another language would help.
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A Nightmare on Elm Street
I'll just post what I put in my list post.
One...Two...Freddy's coming for you. I saw this movie over at a friends house when I was maybe 10 or 12 and it really freaked me out. I remember not being able to sleep at all that night. A true horror classic. As I'm sure many know, it was Johnny Depp's first movie.
I don't really find this movie very scary anymore. I'm not quite sure why, I think it's just because I know what's going to happen.
Did anyone know that they are remaking this in 2010? I'm not sure what I think about that.
Scare Factor (2008): 3.5/10
Scare Factor (1988): 9.5/10
One...Two...Freddy's coming for you. I saw this movie over at a friends house when I was maybe 10 or 12 and it really freaked me out. I remember not being able to sleep at all that night. A true horror classic. As I'm sure many know, it was Johnny Depp's first movie.
I don't really find this movie very scary anymore. I'm not quite sure why, I think it's just because I know what's going to happen.
Did anyone know that they are remaking this in 2010? I'm not sure what I think about that.
Scare Factor (2008): 3.5/10
Scare Factor (1988): 9.5/10
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I'll have to try watching Suspiria in Italian. Seeing it as many times as I have, I'm sure I can take it (I used to use it as my Demo disc back in my Laserdisc Pro-Logic days). Part of my pleasure is Jessica Harper's voice, though. I even love Shock Treatment almost entirely on her singing. Phantom of the Paradise has the added benefit of Paul Williams lyrics (which are very distinctive).
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It took me ages to finally realize it was him because of that. And i wonder if Argento's ever commented as to why they dubbed his voice with an American one when the film takes place in Germany ...especially considering he's German!
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A Nightmare on Elm Street
I think the original NOES stands head and shoulders above the sequels. I like the mystery behind the Freddy character in the film. He's not yet the always-wisecracking villain we've grown to know after watching the rest of the series.
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If I recall, they only had him for that day and they always shoot silent and record dialog later.. He wasn't available for the later ADR.
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A bit behind here, as I was away for the weekend. Shadow of the Vampire was great fun, and I thought the fusion of black and white "on set" footage with color was very effective. My only issue was with the pretentious, long winded opening credits. What was the point of all those closeups of cryptic, random images completely unrelated to the film? Suspiria is a mesmerizing experience as long as you don't attempt to get to caught up in the machinations of the plot, as the film makes little sense. Wonderful use of color and that great Goblin score are big pluses. Nightmare was a nifty concept for a horror film, and Freddy had yet to turn into an unholy (and unfunny) fusion of Benny Hill and Milton Berle.
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Nosferatu / Shadow of the Vampire
BTW for anyone who bought the Iron Man Best Buy exclusive, you have the option of spending your gift card on this.
A bit behind here, as I was away for the weekend. Shadow of the Vampire was great fun, and I thought the fusion of black and white "on set" footage with color was very effective. My only issue was with the pretentious, long winded opening credits. What was the point of all those closeups of cryptic, random images completely unrelated to the film?
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Suspiria
I think just because the english dub is so bad for the most part, that perhaps a foreign language would be less distracting.
Thanks. I wouldn't mind seeing more of Miss Harper, I'll seek this one out.
Yep. Usually I don't care much for audio/video, and would just as well watch my films on a tinny sounding 5" black and white or a 60" plasma with DTS sound. But this is definitely one film more appreciated with a good AV set-up.
Thanks. I wouldn't mind seeing more of Miss Harper, I'll seek this one out.
Yep. Usually I don't care much for audio/video, and would just as well watch my films on a tinny sounding 5" black and white or a 60" plasma with DTS sound. But this is definitely one film more appreciated with a good AV set-up.
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A Nightmare on Elm Street
I loved the first, liked the second, and the third is one of the worst for me. Mainly because it's where it was turning from a horror movie to Freddy's a popular kind of guy. It was trying to be two things at once.
When the fourth movie came out it had completed the change. It wasn't great but it knew what it was.
When the fourth movie came out it had completed the change. It wasn't great but it knew what it was.
I saw this movie over at a friends house when I was maybe 10 or 12 and it really freaked me out. I remember not being able to sleep at all that night. A true horror classic.
I don't really find this movie very scary anymore. I'm not quite sure why, I think it's just because I know what's going to happen.
I don't really find this movie very scary anymore. I'm not quite sure why, I think it's just because I know what's going to happen.
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Night of the Living Dead
Somehow pretty much avoided all the Dead films until about a year or two ago, and have now watched the original a few times.
Watched my 30th Anniversary Edition version, and holy crap, what were they thinking making those additions? Awful! I'll have to find a better version, or perhaps just wait for BluRay.
Watched my 30th Anniversary Edition version, and holy crap, what were they thinking making those additions? Awful! I'll have to find a better version, or perhaps just wait for BluRay.
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Somehow pretty much avoided all the Dead films until about a year or two ago, and have now watched the original a few times.
Watched my Millennium Edition version, and holy crap, what were they thinking making those additions? Awful! I'll have to find a better version, or perhaps just wait for BluRay.
Watched my Millennium Edition version, and holy crap, what were they thinking making those additions? Awful! I'll have to find a better version, or perhaps just wait for BluRay.
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