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Old 06-05-07 | 03:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Giggles
Hi Sam! I just converted to DVDAF 2.0 and is not fully satisfied so to say... I tried DVDSpot and two problems I found out were: 1. DVD database is much poorer than the one of DVDAF (but that's the minor problem - I can contribute as well as I did with DVDAF). 2. The major one - on any DVD release page there's no indication what country this DVD's from!!! Only a region code. For me this info is essential. This might be the only reason I still haven't migrated to DVDSpot. Is it possible to do anything about that? Because I like all other aspects of DVDSpot.


1 - Yep, but as more and more people outside R1 join this becomes less of a problem. I have added several Russian releases (Zemlya Cannibolov, The Singing Detectve and a couple of others), but obviously that won't be many for a serious collector inside Russia.

2 - I agree that this would be handy. Not in the edition field but as a new field that could be introduced but at the end of the day it up to Croy as to what is more important to add (there are many suggestions out there). It is usually easy enough by grabbing the UPC and chucking it in google if you must though Personally, thanks to also working on DVDCompare for the last few years, I suppose I find it easier to tell countries based on the soundtrack listings and company name than the average consumer.
Old 06-05-07 | 04:02 AM
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Originally Posted by old-boo-radley
DVDSpot has such ugly pictures, but I may have no choice.
Can you expand on this a bit? What do you mean you don't like the covers. The covers are those that are found on other sites... Is it the size you don't like?
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Originally Posted by Mikael79
The worst part about DVDAF is that the guy who runs it has a bunch of ass-kissers around him, who won't tell him the truth - that DVDAF 2.0 sucks the big one.
Excuse me sir, but didn't you use to be one of them? They had more falling outs since you left.

Weren't you involved with the flixsoxiety, it seems to have failed.

2.0 is destroying what was appealing about DVDAF, one great long list with most episodes and titles and a nice little pic plus the directors and company. They kept shrinking the amount of the listing allowed and now with the short amount of space for episode titles, aside from the "one pager" mode has just destroyed it. What annoys me was long ago I requested additional space for titles per listing and was told it would come with the next great big update but we get a subtraction instead.

DVDSpot is not what dvdaf was but it is the better alternative and the best at the stats and you can at least view all of your titles (sans pictures, regardless of filter, closer to the guzzlefish but easier to submit to and prettier on the eyes. Let's hope cnet doesn't ruin it in the long run.


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DVDSpot's pics seem to lose some quality over time and have less standards than dvdaf but this does make it easier to submit stuff if you have a hard time finding something better.

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Old 06-05-07 | 06:08 AM
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Originally Posted by SamDVDCompare
1 - Yep, but as more and more people outside R1 join this becomes less of a problem. I have added several Russian releases (Zemlya Cannibolov, The Singing Detectve and a couple of others), but obviously that won't be many for a serious collector inside Russia.

2 - I agree that this would be handy. Not in the edition field but as a new field that could be introduced but at the end of the day it up to Croy as to what is more important to add (there are many suggestions out there). It is usually easy enough by grabbing the UPC and chucking it in google if you must though Personally, thanks to also working on DVDCompare for the last few years, I suppose I find it easier to tell countries based on the soundtrack listings and company name than the average consumer.
Thanks for the answer, Sam! Yeah, if to take it seriously one might submit a lot of Russian DVDs. But guess from all that I contributed only two were Russian releases. Funny but I don't have that many DVDs released in my own country. Since I've got many R2 and R3 editions I had to submit many of them.
And regarding my second question - I wrote to DVDSpot forum and was answered that this request about introducing a new field for a country name had been passed to Croy. So who knows... Great idea about UPC - I haven't thought of it somehow And although I learned to distinguish a lot by company name too it still would be nice to have this field. By the way DVDAF allows to submit titles without UPC. Is it OK with DVDSpot?
Old 06-05-07 | 06:09 AM
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Originally Posted by SamDVDCompare
Can you expand on this a bit? What do you mean you don't like the covers. The covers are those that are found on other sites... Is it the size you don't like?
No, the size is fine. Just, some images aren't very clear. I also like the stats (although I'm unsure yet how accurate they are).

Really, what'd be perfect would bel to have all the features of DVDSpot with the covers from DVDAficionado. Really I wouldn't hate DVDAficionado at all except the 50 titles per page thing just won't fly with me for many reasons.
Old 06-05-07 | 06:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Giggles
Thanks for the answer, Sam! Yeah, if to take it seriously one might submit a lot of Russian DVDs. But guess from all that I contributed only two were Russian releases. Funny but I don't have that many DVDs released in my own country. Since I've got many R2 and R3 editions I had to submit many of them.
And regarding my second question - I wrote to DVDSpot forum and was answered that this request about introducing a new field for a country name had been passed to Croy. So who knows... Great idea about UPC - I haven't thought of it somehow And although I learned to distinguish a lot by company name too it still would be nice to have this field. By the way DVDAF allows to submit titles without UPC. Is it OK with DVDSpot?
Yes, it is OK. I have had to add many titles without UPC before (mainly from R3 company Edko who have a tendency not to use them). Providing the case doesn't have an UPC then just check the no UPC box and leave a note for editor. Obviously, if the case has an UPC but the user doesn't add it, it is different and will be declined.
Old 06-05-07 | 06:21 AM
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Originally Posted by old-boo-radley
No, the size is fine. Just, some images aren't very clear. I also like the stats (although I'm unsure yet how accurate they are).

Really, what'd be perfect would bel to have all the features of DVDSpot with the covers from DVDAficionado. Really I wouldn't hate DVDAficionado at all except the 50 titles per page thing just won't fly with me for many reasons.
Thanks for the input. Obviously as a user orientated site, we only show what has so far been submitted. After time, people will add high higher quality art and if the quality is better than what is there it will obviously be accepted providing it fits in with the rules in the contribution manager:
* Image must be provided in JPEG format (.jpg)
* Image may be any dimensions, resizing occurs automatically
* Image file size must be below 512kb
* To keep file size below 512kb, limit scans to 72dpi

As the site becomes more popular, we will see the site come along a lot more. Remember, we are one of the 'newest' of the big name catalogue sites so we are behind with the amount of users (I assume).

Also, the site stats are updated daily at 2am each day (Eastern time I think).
Old 06-05-07 | 07:08 AM
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Chock me up as yet another disappointed person in DVDAF 2.0. Hopefully they fix it all up soon. I like the layout of the site, but can't really do anything to add DVDs to my collection or anything.
Old 06-05-07 | 07:23 AM
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Another vote for DVDSpot.
Old 06-05-07 | 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by SamDVDCompare
Thanks for the input. Obviously as a user orientated site, we only show what has so far been submitted. After time, people will add high higher quality art and if the quality is better than what is there it will obviously be accepted providing it fits in with the rules in the contribution manager:
* Image must be provided in JPEG format (.jpg)
* Image may be any dimensions, resizing occurs automatically
* Image file size must be below 512kb
* To keep file size below 512kb, limit scans to 72dpi

As the site becomes more popular, we will see the site come along a lot more. Remember, we are one of the 'newest' of the big name catalogue sites so we are behind with the amount of users (I assume).

Also, the site stats are updated daily at 2am each day (Eastern time I think).
Yes, when I went to the site an hour ago to keep adding titles, I noticed that there weren't many members. Actually, the amount of budget titles on there already prove it's coming along nicely.

Any chance director/actor stats will ever change per movie and not per DVD?

I think you have the right idea, of course it needs fine tuning but seeing how new this is, it's coming along very nicely. I honestly thought the site had been around longer from all the people in this thread directing others to it. I think a lot of people will be coming to your site when they switch DVDAf because the 50 titles per page is absolutely stupid.
Old 06-05-07 | 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by old-boo-radley
Yes, when I went to the site an hour ago to keep adding titles, I noticed that there weren't many members. Actually, the amount of budget titles on there already prove it's coming along nicely.

Any chance director/actor stats will ever change per movie and not per DVD?

I think you have the right idea, of course it needs fine tuning but seeing how new this is, it's coming along very nicely. I honestly thought the site had been around longer from all the people in this thread directing others to it. I think a lot of people will be coming to your site when they switch DVDAf because the 50 titles per page is absolutely stupid.
The stats will be a lot better at some point. A lot of things are in the works but the site designer and all round doer of the technical things has said it requires a lot of code rewriting so it will be later rather than sooner (though it is under progress).

Thanks for the other kind words from everyone. Good to know that most like the site and for those that don't... Well life would be boring if we all the liked the same things

The site has been around since 2004 btw, though has only really come into strides the last 18 months or so...
Old 06-05-07 | 08:55 AM
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I was a HUGE fan of DVDAF but don't care for DVDAF2.0 at all. I had a folder called #AB and when I migrated everything to 2.0, this folder disappeared.

I'd like to switch to DVDSpot but there are so many R2 titles that I had submitted to DVDAf. I'd say at least 50, if not more. I spent a lot of time scanning covers and entering the information. I discarded the scans after I submitted them, otherwise I wouldn't have minded submitting everything all over to DVDSpot. Does anyone have experience in adding titles to DVDSpot? Are they picky with cover art, since all I think I have are the small DVDAF cover images.
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Originally Posted by skywalker8
I was a HUGE fan of DVDAF but don't care for DVDAF2.0 at all. I had a folder called #AB and when I migrated everything to 2.0, this folder disappeared.

I'd like to switch to DVDSpot but there are so many R2 titles that I had submitted to DVDAf. I'd say at least 50, if not more. I spent a lot of time scanning covers and entering the information. I discarded the scans after I submitted them, otherwise I wouldn't have minded submitting everything all over to DVDSpot. Does anyone have experience in adding titles to DVDSpot? Are they picky with cover art, since all I think I have are the small DVDAF cover images.
You can submit the coverart that online stores use if you want providing it isn't watermarked. When I add UK releases I usually use the images from Virgin Megastores because they are a good size and high quality. Whilst we are picky and would rather have high quality scans, if the best you can find is poor quality then it will be accepted as it is better than not having cover art at all.
Old 06-05-07 | 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by battlingbutler
Excuse me sir, but didn't you use to be one of them? They had more falling outs since you left.

Weren't you involved with the flixsoxiety, it seems to have failed.
I used to be active on their boards, but I was never one of the ass kissers. I never got along with the top brass, but I made some good friends there that kept me around until I was banned.

And I did help out with Flixsociety until it failed. I'm all for anyone coming along and creating a better DVD collection site, because right now no one is stepping up to the plate.
Old 06-05-07 | 09:27 AM
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Follow up from my earlier posts... I switched over to the Spot yesterday after taking it for a spin. Submitted two titles that weren't listed and they were approved last night.

Looks like I'll be staying.
Old 06-05-07 | 09:57 AM
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Seriously, I am a huge fan of DVDSpot. It's easy to use and I actually like it more than even the old DVDAf.

If I were given one thing I would add or change about it: The ability to print custom reports directly from the program (vice exporting to excel) with pictures included.
Old 06-05-07 | 10:01 AM
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Does anyone know the name of the site that mimics DVDs being displayed on a shelf? It was exclusively for Apple OS users, but I believe someone made a Windows equivalent...
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Does anyone know the name of the site that mimics DVDs being displayed on a shelf? It was exclusively for Apple OS users, but I believe someone made a Windows equivalent...
http://www.delicious-monster.com/

If only I had a Mac....
Old 06-05-07 | 10:39 AM
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Has anyone posted on the dvdaf message boards and directed them to this thread or any other complaints. I still do not understand why in the world dvdaf would want to go from being the best DVD inventory site, to being virtually useless.
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Originally Posted by Mikael79
http://www.delicious-monster.com/

If only I had a Mac....
Thanks, and I found the alternative I'd heard of before: MediaMan. Unfortunately, it's $40 to use! No thanks.
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Originally Posted by Mikael79
http://www.delicious-monster.com/

If only I had a Mac....
This is a very nice site but if you have discs that are from countries that do not have an Amazon etc, then it's not much use. Saying that, if I had a Mac I would have that running aswell
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Has anyone posted on the dvdaf message boards and directed them to this thread or any other complaints. I still do not understand why in the world dvdaf would want to go from being the best DVD inventory site, to being virtually useless.
I think they are aware and I know the new site is not finished but the amount of time for this update was so long from when first announced that I fear it will be stuck like this for years.

My suggestion, if people are truly dissatisfied with how dvdaf looks now, then don't migrate as a sign of protest but monitor the forum for progress. As I understand migration is still possible after 1.0 goes offline and will be for a good while. This may force some requests to the forefront before they are forgotten.
Old 06-05-07 | 01:22 PM
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I looked at DVDAF's board last night, and there didn't seem to be any real complaints coming from their members, and they didn't mention anyone else being upset with the changes. One thing about their forum is that they don't allow the mentioning of other DVD message boards, so if someone were to link this page, someone there would delete it right away.
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I think they are aware and I know the new site is not finished but the amount of time for this update was so long from when first announced that I fear it will be stuck like this for years.
If you look at the forums and how far the 2.0 threads date back, this upgrade has been in development for years. It was a long time ago that I tried 2.0 beta, and I had the idea that they had given up on it.

I'm no fan of 2.0 at all, but that's mostly because so many of the functionalities are not working. I hope it won't take as long for these to be updated.

The original layout is supposed to go down today, I read in the forum.
Old 06-05-07 | 05:04 PM
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I'm in the same boat, I've been watching the progress of 2.0 with horror. I absolutely don't like the look, functionality or imposed title limits. I have over 1000 titles in there so I'm not sure what my alternatives are. Since nobody has answered the DVDAF export question, I'm assuming (as I assumed) that no such export option exists.

Does DVD Spot allow you to have one huge running list with photos? I'd pay for a program that could do that plus export to a printable template.


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