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Another evil and completely pointless plot from Peter Jackson and Sauron. These will not sell.
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A new documentary? I'm a true fan, count me in!
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There are some dwarves who just came up from the Mines of Moria, they will definitely want these!
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George Lucas raped my childhood and now Peter Jackson is sodomizing my adult life.
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Oooh, pretty covers, here's my money!
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Old 06-26-06 | 10:29 AM
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May be I'll pick the new ROTK set. I already have the EE but I don't like it that much compared to the theatrical cuts.
Old 06-26-06 | 10:29 AM
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Anyone wanna bet most of these people that are saying no way WILL be buying this new set?
Why has this become an obligatory remark in every thread of re-released titles?


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I will readily admit I bought all the previous versions and I WILL be buying this set. I love the trilogy and I am up for anything new!
Congratulations on your pride of having no discernment.

I held off buying the films until the EE trilogy boxset was released... and THAT was what I purchased. That is more than enough for me. I see no need to buy this latest set.
Old 06-26-06 | 10:30 AM
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Peter Jackson is raping my early to mid thirties.

Seriously, I'm with the vast majority. Already owning the previous two versions I can't see upgrading until I get on board the HD wagon. I am hot to see the docs, though.
Old 06-26-06 | 11:35 AM
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Why do people keep saying Peter Jackson in reguards to this? This isn't George Lucas. In fact, Peter Jackson has really done everything right in reguards to LOTR for the most part. This is a New Line Cinema cash in operation. Yeesh.
Old 06-26-06 | 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by mzupeman2
Why do people keep saying Peter Jackson in reguards to this? This isn't George Lucas. In fact, Peter Jackson has really done everything right in reguards to LOTR for the most part. This is a New Line Cinema cash in operation. Yeesh.
Indeed:

“It gives us the chance to refresh the franchise,” Lasorsa said.

... and rape my wallet! I'm curious about the docs.

Btw, mzupeman2, you mean regards, not reguards. Just a friendly spellcheck!
Old 06-26-06 | 12:05 PM
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This is why I believe the Disc Ones are going to have to be DVD-18's (dual side, dual layer); five or more hours of footage would fit on no less.
No--no way. In that case you're talking about flippers, in the original sense... Movies that have to be turned over half-way thru, no matter which version you were watching. They wouldn't bother with seamless branching in that case, they'd just put the theatrical on one side and the extended version on the other.

No, for better or worse, these discs sound like they've got more movie crammed on one side than usually fits very well. Perhaps they'll surprise us with their quality, but with 4.5 to 5 hours of film to encode, they'd better be doing a darn fine job with their compression.
Old 06-26-06 | 12:16 PM
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PJ doesn't own these films like Lucas owns SW. This is New Line....
Ok, so why no 55 pages of "New Line is trying to make money!"?
Old 06-26-06 | 12:25 PM
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I've just added some highres package shots here
Old 06-26-06 | 12:40 PM
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I've just added some highres package shots here


REALLY nice covers.
Old 06-26-06 | 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by nodeerforamonth
Ok, so why no 55 pages of "New Line is trying to make money!"?
What defensive point are you (and others) trying to make about Lucas, and why are you trying to inject it into a LOTR thread?

As far as I can see, plenty of people are complaining, both saying the new release is pointless commercialism and that they have no intention of buying it.
Old 06-26-06 | 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by gryffinmaster


REALLY nice covers.

Don't about it, d/l & make some of your own? http://www.rixgrafix.com/index_050.htm Sure they won't have the card board boxing but they certainly look better than the default covers IMHO.





There's a variety of other covers on the site as well.

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Old 06-26-06 | 03:24 PM
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You know, I really really really have a thing for having the 'official' art but I would love to download those and use them anyway. How do you get them for the EE's though? Can you even buy four disc keepcases and does the spine on those cover it up well enough?
Old 06-26-06 | 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom Woodward
I've just added some highres package shots here

"The feature-length documentaries, with more than 300 minutes of never-before-available footage, focus on a number of complexities and circumstances and affected the making of the movies."

Finally the on-set caterers will get their moment in the spotlight!


You know, if I had way too much money I might consider buying these, tossing the disks and using the boxes to hold the EE movie disks.
Old 06-26-06 | 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by mzupeman2
You know, I really really really have a thing for having the 'official' art but I would love to download those and use them anyway. How do you get them for the EE's though? Can you even buy four disc keepcases and does the spine on those cover it up well enough?
Those are probably better questions for the cover and case sub-forum. I'm sure they can get you straightened out in there.
Old 06-26-06 | 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by mzupeman2
You know, I really really really have a thing for having the 'official' art ...
Yeah, same here. Plus, I'm on the fence about picking the sets up for the dual films anyway.

I grumble because that artwork pushes me towards the double dip even further. However, nemein, the link that you posted has some SWEET customs for anyone looking for a 6-7 disc set to house both the theatrical and extended in ONE case. Thanks for the link - it's a great site for those customs.

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Old 06-26-06 | 05:04 PM
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Check out the other work on there as well, esp if you have any (or all) of the Start Trek TV DVD. There is a really impressive "ships of the line" layout for the entire ST set. Almost makes me wish I bought them

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Old 06-27-06 | 07:35 AM
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When I read the article my question was..Why!? I own both theatrical and extended versions and with massive amount of extras across both sets there is no need for me to get the rereleases.

Thanks to Nemein for the link. I love the covers!!

Take care all!!
Old 06-27-06 | 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by nodeerforamonth
Ok, so why no 55 pages of "New Line is trying to make money!"?
The situations aren't comprable; from the very first release of 'Lord of the Rings', Peter Jackson has made it clear that there would be extended releases coming soon, and then further special editions down the line. He has openly said that the documentarian (Costa something) was cutting together feature length documentaries from footage which hadn't been included yet, and those docs would be future supplements, if not theatrically released on their own. Likewise, New Line has been quite forthcoming about their plans. Also, New Line has put millions of dollars into the extended editions; they were still giving him money to shoot more footage after he'd won the Oscar.

Lucas, on the other hand, has gone back on everything he's said, at one time or another. He releases things he said he never would, and won't put money into making them look good. It's not so much that people complain that Lucas is trying to make money as it is that Lucas's sole concern is making money; New Line and Jackson seem at least somewhat interested in also making a decent product that people will want to buy, rather than repeatedly putting out inferior products and assuming (albeit correctly) that everybody will buy it anyway, so there's no need to put any effort or money into the release.

I mean, if you can point to anything in this situation which is analagous to releasing a film with the wrong sound mix and claiming it was an artistic choice ... or releasing major films in non-anamorphic widescreen ... or where Peter Jackson (or New Line) said that this release would never happen, so everybody should buy the old releases ... maybe there'd be some comparison then. Really, the only way they're comprable is if you close your eyes and ignore all the detailed complaints about Lucas and just decide that they're all meritless complaints directed more at capitalism than Lucas's actions. I know a lot of Lucas defenders take that tack; good luck with it.
Old 06-27-06 | 11:11 AM
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The situations aren't comprable; from the very first release of 'Lord of the Rings', Peter Jackson has made it clear that there would be extended releases coming soon, and then further special editions down the line. He has openly said that the documentarian (Costa something) was cutting together feature length documentaries from footage which hadn't been included yet, and those docs would be future supplements, if not theatrically released on their own. Likewise, New Line has been quite forthcoming about their plans. Also, New Line has put millions of dollars into the extended editions; they were still giving him money to shoot more footage after he'd won the Oscar.

Lucas, on the other hand, has gone back on everything he's said, at one time or another. He releases things he said he never would, and won't put money into making them look good. It's not so much that people complain that Lucas is trying to make money as it is that Lucas's sole concern is making money; New Line and Jackson seem at least somewhat interested in also making a decent product that people will want to buy, rather than repeatedly putting out inferior products and assuming (albeit correctly) that everybody will buy it anyway, so there's no need to put any effort or money into the release.

I mean, if you can point to anything in this situation which is analagous to releasing a film with the wrong sound mix and claiming it was an artistic choice ... or releasing major films in non-anamorphic widescreen ... or where Peter Jackson (or New Line) said that this release would never happen, so everybody should buy the old releases ... maybe there'd be some comparison then. Really, the only way they're comprable is if you close your eyes and ignore all the detailed complaints about Lucas and just decide that they're all meritless complaints directed more at capitalism than Lucas's actions. I know a lot of Lucas defenders take that tack; good luck with it.


I think this thread needs to be stickied for the rest of all time just for this post here. As anti-Lucas as this may read, I cannot read it as anything other than cold hard truth. Hell, I wasn't going to buy these, but now I might just to have these docs and for the principle of the matter. I was born in 1974 and literally grew up with Star Wars. I have defended many of Lucas' decisions over the years, artistically and commercially, but his overall attitude towards DVD has soured me on the whole franchise. And no I don't think I'm being petty, there are so many other filmmakers that have embraced DVD as a way of increasing appreciation for their films, that it really makes Lucas seem kinda backward in his thinking.

I think the LOTR releases have been handled perfectly so far, and I don't think I've seen a SW DVD yet that lived up to the potential of the format.
Old 06-27-06 | 11:22 AM
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Old 06-27-06 | 11:46 AM
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An ideal situation would be to release the 300-minute documentary separately, for people like me who already own both the theatrical and extended editions. I basically already have 6-disc sets for EACH film in the series. I'm not sure I can rationalize picking up more -- especially when the first disc with the film itself sounds inferior to what I already have.

But the completist whore in me is lusting after these new documentaries. Even though, as is typical for most DVD addicts, I have still not gone through everything on the sets I have.

I'd buy a 2- or 3-disc set with just the documentary in a heartbeat. These sets I'll probably wait on... to see if I can find an amazing price at some point (new or used). I'll also say -- for the first time for me personally -- that HD is making me hesitate on these as well. I'm a 'live for today' type of guy when it comes to DVD... but when it comes to a triple dip just for a documentary? I may just hold out for a couple of years to see what New Line has planned for their high definition release.
Old 06-27-06 | 03:05 PM
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Add me to the ones that won't buy this new release. I already have the Theatrical and extended editions. Not shelling out more money cause I am happy with the EE's.
Old 06-27-06 | 04:21 PM
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I don't own either the theatrical or EE of any of these films, so maybe I'll pick them up now that they're both in one package.
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Why not go for another dip, only the 3rd time for the Rings. Count me in!
Old 06-29-06 | 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by sracer
I held off buying the films until the EE trilogy boxset was released... and THAT was what I purchased. That is more than enough for me. I see no need to buy this latest set.
Ditto (although actually I bought the EE's seperately when they were released).


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