Is that Ben pic a new "ghost" pic? If so, I actually like it.

Hokey smokes those screenshots look fabulous.

No, it's just a ghost pic from when Luke leaves Dagobah to go to Cloud City.

Those screenshots are amazing, they really make me I want the dvd right now!!

Impressive!

Wow... yes, those caps look great.

Alien Quadrilogy: 4 movies, 9 disks...MSRP $99.98
Matrix Set: 4 movies (including Animatrix), 10 disks...MSRP $79.92

$125+ for a 7 disk Star Wars would be steep...the only way they could justify a price like that is to say that you're getting 6 different films by having the original versions - which I would actually agree with.

If they had the originals and the new versions for over $100 I would get it. Im such a Lucas whore...

yes, that is torture.
the caps look sublime.
and there's nuthin' in 'em 'cept what was always there.


and yes, i was talking about giving each film 2 discs- 1 for the very first, original theatrical release cut of each film, and the other disc for the version that Lucas wants to be represenative of the films now.

i don't know how extensive the still galleries are, but the docs are long enough that it breaks down to roughly 40 minutes per film.
so if they didn't skimp on the things like trailers and still galleries (so that they could jam those Game trailers and demos in there) then it sounds like what people are getting is a 'rich enough' set of supplemental content.
not as extravegant as the Alien discs, but still a goodly amount of material to chew over and savor and digest.
(i'll reserve judgement until i actually get to go thru it in late Oct)

but anyways, the point was there could have easily been three total boxsets (just like there are going to be two now- one wide and one full) the third being a limited, premium set that retailed for more money and included the original cuts.
he could have had the smaller (SEs) set for the general audience to pick up at a cheaper pricepoint and he could have made available the set that thousands upon thousands of fans were asking him for-

and if he had done that, i think he would have been suprised at just how many people would have migrated from relflexivly picking up the cheaper set, to picking up the more expensive, limited one.
he could have given the limited one a pressing of a million units and i bet he would have sold them all out within a year.


its just disappointing that he chose to serve one primary audience with this release- himself (and the 'generic shopper' who could care less what version it is because they would pick up anything as long as it was the original trilogy and/or heavily hyped).

At least "Yes I bet you have" has been bumped up.

Whatever, just release them on DVD.

I have enough versions to keep me happy.

So they fixed the ghost shot of Ben in Empire? Isn't he supposed to be a wee bit more see-thru? Still, those caps look absolutely magnificent. Shit.

what exactly is being chanced in the star wars trilogy box set ?!?!?!?!

I think he was saying release the films indvidually with no box set. And have a second disc with the original cut of the film.

Not a bad idea actually.

Here is a clip that has shows all the newly redubbed Boba Fett lines that is now on the Empire DVD. If you didnt know, Temuera Morrison (Jango Fett from Episode 2), has redone all of Boba's lines because Lucas is "bridging the two trilogies."

Gone now is the cool and mysterious voice of Boba. All thats left is a shitty kiwi accent.

http://s95053774.onlinehome.us/BobaPsychotic.mpg


Also, here is the link for the entire new ending for JEDI. See the Naboo celebration and the Hayden/Anakin addition at the end. If you don't get picture then I guess you need the Xvid codec.

http://aptirrelevance.com/gupta/rotj-ending.avi

Boba had what, 3-4 lines?

The Fett lines are what disturb me the most out of any of this. Luckily, I'm a big fan of Jango too... so it's not that bad. It really does help bridge the two trilogies together, and you know, if I was in Lucas' shoes, that's what would matter to me.

I just wish the original, and the original SE could be in the same set.

But man, I still get chills at that ROTJ ending!

Me too, but luckily I like most of the changes.

How much do you think DVDs cost to manufacture? Not that much really. In mass production, we're talking pennies. Less than a buck easily. Independant DVD manufacturing companies charge people just over a dollar a piece when making between 100 and 10,000... their profit margin is built into that price as well. They could make the set 40 discs and charge 100 bucks and still turn a tidy profit. I mean, adding 3 more discs for the original trilogy and then bumping the msrp up by 10 bucks would be fair I suppose - since they would have to pay to master the original trilogy etc.

Well, whatever dude... I'm not gonna argue with you. You're one of those people who don't listen to what other people say. That's fine. Your math must contain more logic than mine - 70/4 = 17.5
17.5 x 3 = 52.5
52.5 + 70 = 122.50 - you're right, it makes much more sense when you apply logic. Let's apply it to the Aliens box set! Let's see, the original 4 disc set had an MSRP of $79.98 (let's just say 80). This should be easy.
80/4 = 20 (20 dollars per disc, wow)
20 x 9 = 180. Holy shit! the MSRP of the new Alien box set is 180 bucks!!?!?! That's actually a bargain - I paid 350 bucks for mine (from Japan).
350/9 = ~39
Proposed Lucas set is 4 discs plus 3 for the original trilogy, so 7.
~39 x 7 = ~270 bucks.

So the new Star Wars sets that I want should cost 270 bucks. Brilliant.

I agree that the added cost of releasing the original versions would be very small in reality, but it wouldn't surprise me if they are saving this for a super-duper-deluxe set to be released later.

I found this article about Lowry Digital Imgages last night about how this state-of-the-art, film restoration company does their magic. I encourage everyone to read it. It may also explain (to some degree) why the original unaltered trilogy isn't available now or even perhaps later.

Now as for this MSRP for this box set or the 9-disc Alien Quad set, gimme a break. The number of discs has nothing to do with the price. The price is set based on the title, studio, and cost of behind the scenes production. For example, Anchor Bay has pumped out 9 disc sets of Hercules ($70), Xena ($70) and Highlander ($90) for the last 2 years. But you can get'em for $45-55 actual retail.

so what you're saying is that a set that is going to sell less, but has generally the same fixed production costs (replication, packaging, etc) should be priced less...or more?
yes, SW is going to outsell any given Buffy set by a substantial margin.
usually, when you are going to sell a lot of something, you can afford to cut the price as you will make it up in volume.
if you are only going to sell a limited amount, then you have to charge a slight premium.

anyways, do you really think a set featuring the petioned for original cuts, would be impacted at all by an Alien Quad price point?
not only is it the original versions we are talking about, but it is also a set of movies that have not seen one dvd release at all yet.

like i said, they could have priced a 7 disc set like that at a premium ($100 msrp) and run off a million units, and been sold out within 12 months.

there is only one reason we are not seeing it. George does not like (or value) the original cuts of these films.


BTW, Thanks Lara for the link.
the first two scenes are very disappointing as far as TMs reading and the way the voice is lacking any kind of electronic texture or amplification.
he sounds like hes talking behind a curtain, not a sealed metalic mask.
the "put captain Solo in the Cargo Hold" line comes off a little better, but that makes one out of two- so another failing grade for the 'improvments' here.
i can't believe between this and the Emperor scene, i'm actually pining for the 97 SE now.
i think after i satiate myself with a couple viewings, i'm going to have to get rid of the set.
these versions are just too fundementally frustrating/aggrevating/disappointing.

This is not a "bash" but as I've said once before that I think that if the original cuts of the film were available, it would somehow in his mind "invalidate" the work he did on the Special Editions. It's only human nature that people want thier work to be liked by as many people as possible. And in his mind, he's convinced himself that these changes make the film "better". Unfortunatley that's just not the case, as evidenced by the numerous responses on this and other message boards. It would almost be like saying "All that hard work of mine was for absolutley nothing".

They could have always put out the 4-disc set that they are releasing, plus a $150 set with some extras and the original cuts of the films.

That way everyone's happy: general consumers get the movies, and cinephiles/star wars freaks could buy the more expensive set.

But no, that's not what they're doing. It's not about the money - it's about Lucas's ego. He's a perfectionist and can't stand that these flawed (in his mind) versions have been around as long as they have.

thanks for posting the videoclips of the new changes. man, they're pretty drastic. still, the worse changes were the '97 ones where greedo shot first and han stepping over jabba's tail.