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09-03-04 | 06:00 PM
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How come no one is challenging my statements where I say that the initial restoration done to the films for the '97 SEs have forever changed the films? No, Instead I get personal attacks stating that I hate opposing opinions.
I like debate as much as the next guy, but answering back with a personal attack a debate is not.
09-03-04 | 07:05 PM
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Originally posted by Mike Lowrey
How come no one is challenging my statements where I say that the initial restoration done to the films for the '97 SEs have forever changed the films?
How come no one is challenging my statements where I say that the initial restoration done to the films for the '97 SEs have forever changed the films?
09-03-04 | 07:09 PM
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Originally posted by ckolchak
missed this post earlier...
handled to death = one release of the theatrical version & one release of an extended cut (using material shot contmeporanelously with the original footage)?
missed this post earlier...
handled to death = one release of the theatrical version & one release of an extended cut (using material shot contmeporanelously with the original footage)?
I think that you may have read my post differently than I intended; I meant that I sincerely loved the way PJ and NL handled the LOTR DVDs. I wish GL would adopt a similar scheme. After rereading my post I can see the confusion. Sorry if I got you riled up
as far as "doing it for the fans"- yes, New Line ponied up the dough for him to finish scenes, have the material scored , etc because they did expect to make money with the release.
you got me there.
and yes, PJ divided his time between getting the theatrical releases of the last two films hewn and overseeing the new edits to the EEs...and yeah, he probably did it solely or primarily for the almighty buck.
why else would he possibly do it?
its surely an alien concept to the Lucas-istas™, that a storyteller would expend energy & resources to release a version of his material more for the benefit of someone other than the studios heads & himself.
just because Lucas could be making more money than he is by releasing the (beloved) unaltered versions (in addtion to the ones he wants in the marketplace, but has chosen not to, does not make him some paragon of virtue.
his motivation is just as self-centered as anyone working for a paycheck.
and while you may label Jacksons remarks as bullshit, the only comments i have seen come out of Lucasland on the issue of fanbase and appreciation of, or acknowledgement of what they have contributed, is the all-time classic "this is not a democracy"
nothing along the lines of "we understand the enthusasim for the original versions, we understand why people want them, we will try to get them out in ___ years, but they exist in a disassembled form now and may take some time to recut. in the meantime Mr Lucas would like everyone to experience these and hope that you will get some enjoyment out of them in the mean-time...but we do realize there is a sizable group that would like the originals that have been a part of their lives for more than a quarter of a century, and we will look forward to fulfilling their desires as soon as we can"
they could have said something like that- not even given out a concrete date, or any other info, just worded something that said, "we recoginize you, we appreciate that we wouldn't have the opportunity to be making a big deal about these today if it weren't for the way you embraced these all those years ago, and we will try to service you in the future".
is that really beyond the pale to expect from someone angling to take my money for their product ?
it's really kind of amusing to see the way George has remolded what were big budget crowd pleasers into what are now vanity productions.
you got me there.
and yes, PJ divided his time between getting the theatrical releases of the last two films hewn and overseeing the new edits to the EEs...and yeah, he probably did it solely or primarily for the almighty buck.
why else would he possibly do it?
its surely an alien concept to the Lucas-istas™, that a storyteller would expend energy & resources to release a version of his material more for the benefit of someone other than the studios heads & himself.
just because Lucas could be making more money than he is by releasing the (beloved) unaltered versions (in addtion to the ones he wants in the marketplace, but has chosen not to, does not make him some paragon of virtue.
his motivation is just as self-centered as anyone working for a paycheck.
and while you may label Jacksons remarks as bullshit, the only comments i have seen come out of Lucasland on the issue of fanbase and appreciation of, or acknowledgement of what they have contributed, is the all-time classic "this is not a democracy"
nothing along the lines of "we understand the enthusasim for the original versions, we understand why people want them, we will try to get them out in ___ years, but they exist in a disassembled form now and may take some time to recut. in the meantime Mr Lucas would like everyone to experience these and hope that you will get some enjoyment out of them in the mean-time...but we do realize there is a sizable group that would like the originals that have been a part of their lives for more than a quarter of a century, and we will look forward to fulfilling their desires as soon as we can"
they could have said something like that- not even given out a concrete date, or any other info, just worded something that said, "we recoginize you, we appreciate that we wouldn't have the opportunity to be making a big deal about these today if it weren't for the way you embraced these all those years ago, and we will try to service you in the future".
is that really beyond the pale to expect from someone angling to take my money for their product ?
it's really kind of amusing to see the way George has remolded what were big budget crowd pleasers into what are now vanity productions.
Don't misunderstand me; I love LOTR and will be/ have been there for the EEs and I am sure that the OTC still exists and will be on a shiny silver disc for us all to double dip on. And like the LOTR EEs, I'll gladly hand them my green for it.
09-03-04 | 09:23 PM
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Originally posted by Mike Lowrey
How come no one is challenging my statements where I say that the initial restoration done to the films for the '97 SEs have forever changed the films?
How come no one is challenging my statements where I say that the initial restoration done to the films for the '97 SEs have forever changed the films?
09-04-04 | 10:59 PM
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Just got my set. Popping it in right now. Gonna check out how Lucas botched these films up. Reguardless, it's still incredible cool to be popping the original trilogy into my DVD player. Will stop by and post my impressions a little later. Well, probobly alot later by the time I get through this monster of a set.
09-04-04 | 11:37 PM
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From: City of the lakers.. riots.. and drug dealing cops.. los(t) Angel(e)s. ca.
People have their methods. I've had mine for sometime now.
I like the menus and chapter selections. Pretty cool stuff. as for the changes, it's noticable but I'm glad they cleaned up a lot of the effects for the battle of hoth and the endor celebration and battle.
and talking like Yoda doesn't help in taking anything you really say serious.
I like the menus and chapter selections. Pretty cool stuff. as for the changes, it's noticable but I'm glad they cleaned up a lot of the effects for the battle of hoth and the endor celebration and battle.
I like debate as much as the next guy, but answering back with a personal attack a debate is not
09-05-04 | 11:28 AM
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Originally posted by Jackskeleton
and talking like Yoda doesn't help in taking anything you really say serious.
and talking like Yoda doesn't help in taking anything you really say serious.
And people wonder why Kerry's falling in the polls...sometimes it not the charges, but the way in which you answer them.
09-05-04 | 11:29 AM
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Originally posted by demonio
Last edited by Mike Lowrey; 09-05-04 at 11:31 AM.
09-05-04 | 06:18 PM
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Originally posted by Twiggystar
Either the DVD's are alot smaller than I though, or this guy is extremely huge. Anyways that's a disturbing pic, that should be on FARK.com in seconds.... ;-)
Either the DVD's are alot smaller than I though, or this guy is extremely huge. Anyways that's a disturbing pic, that should be on FARK.com in seconds.... ;-)
Hell, even holding just 3 keepcases together, my fingers don't wrap around that much. What is this guy holding?
Anybody know?
Last edited by Mike Lowrey; 09-05-04 at 06:21 PM.
09-05-04 | 06:34 PM
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That box looks too square-ish to be a DVD box.
09-05-04 | 06:43 PM
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Originally posted by demonio
And meanwhile, back at the Hall of WETA, we see what Peter Jackson is going to do before he starts working on some film about a big monkey.
09-05-04 | 06:49 PM
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Originally posted by cactusoly
I cant wait either. by the way ... whatever happened to the snide fat comment?
I cant wait either. by the way ... whatever happened to the snide fat comment?
Last edited by Hamburger3; 09-05-04 at 07:01 PM.
09-05-04 | 07:49 PM
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I think he's tilting the box forward a bit, thus altering the perspective, making it more "square-ish". Either way, another lucky bastard. So Jack, since you've had yours for some time now, how is it?
09-05-04 | 09:05 PM
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Not to argue but if he was tilting it enough to make it look square-ish, you'd see either the top or bottom. Plus, as has been mentioned, he must have huge hands.
But anyhoo... I'll admit I'm wrong. I'll be holding my own copy in a couple weeks and that's all that matters
But anyhoo... I'll admit I'm wrong. I'll be holding my own copy in a couple weeks and that's all that matters
09-05-04 | 10:59 PM
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Originally posted by Hamburger3
I dont know what you are talking about.
I dont know what you are talking about.