If this were a video, I wouldve been expecting Triumph the Insult Comic Dog to show up beside Vader and tell him his parents just arrived to pick him up.

I don't understand. you can't see vaders hands in any of the pics i've seen on the net. How do we know they're shackled???

I don't understand how this new dialog fits in with the beginning of Empire. It starts off with Vader sending probe droids all over the galaxy to find this one guy. "The rebels are there... and I'm sure Skywalker is with them. Set your course for the Hoth system!"

Vader is obsessed with finding this young rebel (with the last name Skywalker). The same guy he was chasing at the end of ANH and noticed "The Force is strong with this one".


We're now supposed to believe that when told that he is the son of Anakin, Vader's reaction is "How is this possible?" Or is he lying to Palp there?

Maybe Episode III will tie this all together and have it make more sense... but as it is now, I don't understand the change.

http://img62.exs.cx/img62/7351/Vader...FromEp3Doc.jpg

Can you see it in that one? It's right next to his shoulder.

I see the emporer next to him. I just don't see hands shackled. Am I crazy? lol

It's the the left of Vader's head if you're facing him. You can clearly see his wrist and the binding.

Hmmm...ok. Couldn't make out what that was. I guess I'm just screwed up because it looks too small to be Vader's hand...but then again, the whole thing is too small.

Plus you can't see the arm outstretched and it doesn't look like his body is pulled out. The perspective is just weird.

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I really didn't need to know yet that there's some sort of handcuffed/prisoner scene

I successfully avoided the pics, but now I just read too much.

Perhaps the Hoth dialogue will change as well. It doesn't make sense that Vader would know Skywalker's name anyway--couldve been anyone in that XWing.

So--if all changes are made, Emperor's hologram message will be first time Vader learns the "rebel who shot the death star" is a Skywalker at all

Gee, thanks for the spoilers. Yeah, I really wanted to know all that stuff.

Well don't blame me! I clearly labeled the two Episode III pics spoilers. If you clicked on them, that's your fault, not mine.

As for Hayden, he will appear 6'7" in the film. They're using force perspect as well as boots and a helmet that add another 2-3 inches of height.

They'd have to change the opening crawl and that dialog, both of which make it clear that he's out looking for Skywalker. I suppose they could make those changes, but I personally don't care for it... I much prefer the obsessed Vader, sending "thousands" of probe droids out, scouring the galaxy looking for his son. To make it seem like Vader doesn't find out about him until after the asteroid scene... nope, sir, I don't like it.

(And, given that about 3 years have passed between ANH and ESB, I just always figured that Vader found out about Skywalker via interrogation, espionage, etc.)

Again, maybe Ep III will have this all make sense (that Anakin has always known about Luke, but Palpatine doesn't know). ????

Vader's being coy folks. Here's a comment from Lucas on this issue.

We don't know if the "How is that possible?" line was newly recorded or not. JEJ couldve said it for the movie long ago, but it wasnt used in the final product. The rest of Vader's line "He's just a boy...." is the same exact version as it was in the original movie.

Why would you think that this was not new? So you don't think JEJ can still do the Vader voice? He's stated in several interviews that he's been approached to record lines for Episode III. How hard would it be to add one more sentence to that?

Oh, I KNOW he can't do the Vader voice anymore. The proof is in the added lines to Empire done in the '97 SE's. The whole new "Alert my Star Destroyer..." sounded so awful and nothing like Vader from the rest of the movie. Also, of course he was approached to do the Vader lines in Episode 3. Why the hell would they get someone else? James isnt dead yet.

Isn't that what I just said? So who would you rather have do the Vader voice for Episode 3 then?

No - that's not it at all. It's everyone TALKING about the pics in unprotected spoilers that I'm blameing.

Vader's lines in the 97 SE of ESB sounded nothing like the original Vader. That was another problem I had with that stupid, unneccesary scene.

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Exactly.

I did not click on any pics, but I read in open text that plotpont of some sort

Interrupting unrelated threads for this make me NOT want to vote

Oh, ok! Sorry for the confusion.

Talk about threadcraps.

You asked me why I thought the "How is that possible?" line from the new Empire DVD was not a brand new recording by James Earl Jones. My response was because I feel James Earl Jones has gotten too old that he just doesn't sound EXACTLY the same has he did in the 80's. You can hear this for yourself in the added Vader lines from the Empire Special Edition. The added Empire DVD line just sounds too good to be new.

I don't want anyone else to be the voice of Vader!